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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 16:20 GMT
#823
On September 14 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wtf are you talking about WoS? Blubbdavid is one of the leading candidates..

With how many votes?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:21 GMT
#925
On September 14 2013 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm trying to rack my brain around a townie motivation for S&B to say that Rayn is hard to read when he's shown that he has an easy time reading rayn in postgame (where he couldn't have been lying) and I cannot think of one. S&B is a good lynch.

This is what I was getting at with my earlier post but I don't feel good about the lynch still.
I'm not totally convinced that the rest of Rayn's argument mean SnB is scum but I do want Snb to explain the point that Rayn made regarding him saying Rayn was hard to read.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:23 GMT
#931
On September 14 2013 03:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
uh...yes? thats exactly the definition of checking your posts. As town I always backtrack and get shit wrong since I have no idea what's going on. As scum you go through your filter and see "ok let's see what have I been saying"

why would scum SnB willingly just 360 in a few posts as scum and look stupid as fuck? i dont see it.

lol I make mistakes like this all the time, especially in recent games where my activity hasn't been overly spammy and constant. I was kinda hoping SnB would try to explain it himself before someone else brought up an excuse for it though....

Vayne! Who do we lynch today? Me? I have less than 2 hours to go.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:31 GMT
#939
On September 14 2013 03:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
uh...yes? thats exactly the definition of checking your posts. As town I always backtrack and get shit wrong since I have no idea what's going on. As scum you go through your filter and see "ok let's see what have I been saying"

why would scum SnB willingly just 360 in a few posts as scum and look stupid as fuck? i dont see it.

lol I make mistakes like this all the time, especially in recent games where my activity hasn't been overly spammy and constant. I was kinda hoping SnB would try to explain it himself before someone else brought up an excuse for it though....

Vayne! Who do we lynch today? Me? I have less than 2 hours to go.


I think rayn might actually be scum this game but there's no way to get him lynched. He is really going ape shit on this, in my opinion, very stupid detail of SnB's post. I don't really enjoy this

I have to re-evaluate the game

I highly doubt he's scum, Vayne.
It's not the amount of posting or the tunneling, that I'm sure he does every game (I don't THINK I've played in a scum game with him?), but it was his reaction to my return to the thread that made me think so. It was a direct copy of how he pushed me in Persona as well as him reverting to calling other people scummy when they weren't agreeing with him during the start of his push on SnB.

Why does him pushing stupid details SPECIFICALLY make him scum? You know he's done that as town before.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:33 GMT
#942
I forgot about Sn0.
Shit I don't think i have time to do an in-depth read but he is all over the place as I skim through his filter.
No in-depth analysis, pushing random-ass targets, trolly....

Thoughts, gentlemen?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:35 GMT
#945
On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:

What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."

Would that be perfectly fine?


yes because it makes very little difference in the game...

If instead this happened

1: you voting for oats bro?
rayn: yea for sure.

....

never votes for oats...

..

then there is a problem.

Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:39 GMT
#952
On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:

What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."

Would that be perfectly fine?


yes because it makes very little difference in the game...

If instead this happened

1: you voting for oats bro?
rayn: yea for sure.

....

never votes for oats...

..

then there is a problem.

Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol.


ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum.

Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:46 GMT
#958
On September 14 2013 03:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:

What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."

Would that be perfectly fine?


yes because it makes very little difference in the game...

If instead this happened

1: you voting for oats bro?
rayn: yea for sure.

....

never votes for oats...

..

then there is a problem.

Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol.


ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum.

Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing.


that's weird as shit and you should never ask me that again lol

gonna have to play the game yourself for me to get a read on you

Oh please. You and Rayn both need to calm your tits.
I've already explained that I'm gone very soon and if I don't come up with something on my own in the next hour or so I don't want my vote to go to waste. I trust you thus far therefore I am asking you opinion.

Is there a problem?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:47 GMT
#959
On September 14 2013 03:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
What no VA kush is bad lynch jeez look at the scummy retards on his wagon. Its all the people too scared to scumhunt so they say shit like "plynch kush he bad" despite evidence to the contrary (p4)


why is he getting sweeped under the rug then? the contributions he promised never came and he disappeared off the radar suddenly for everyone after some soft defending. That's like the definition of scummy to me.

Town kush has done this before.
LXI comes to mind.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:47 GMT
#961
I don't think blubb is scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:50 GMT
#964
On September 14 2013 03:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:

What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."

Would that be perfectly fine?


yes because it makes very little difference in the game...

If instead this happened

1: you voting for oats bro?
rayn: yea for sure.

....

never votes for oats...

..

then there is a problem.

Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol.


ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum.

Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing.


that's weird as shit and you should never ask me that again lol

gonna have to play the game yourself for me to get a read on you

Oh please. You and Rayn both need to calm your tits.
I've already explained that I'm gone very soon and if I don't come up with something on my own in the next hour or so I don't want my vote to go to waste. I trust you thus far therefore I am asking you opinion.

Is there a problem?


yea, if you aren't town me making your decisions does nothing to tell me anything. You should vote for blubb, OP, or kush though. Thats our best chance of finding scum I think right now. use your brain to vote for the one you want though.

Alright if it's a read on me you (and possibly others) are concerned about then I understand---in that case I refuse to be blamed for when I am not around at deadline and am not voting for someone the majority 'wants' I suppose.

I will make up my mind before I leave. Will look at OP since of the three you listed he may be the one I'd be most comfortable with.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 18:56 GMT
#967
On September 14 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, if you don't want to lynch scum so be it.
Then we remove the incredibly bad play from the game (that has still some poissibility of being scum).

##Unvote:
##Vote: blubbdavid

remember, i get all the "told you so"'s when SnB flips scum or endgames you..

Why does blubbdavid's play need to be removed and yet kush's or sn0's (or maybe zealos) doesn't?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 19:03 GMT
#970
On September 14 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean look at it:
"rayn made a case last game and his target was town"
"therefore his case is bad here now"

fuck this!

He may have not phrased it well but haven't I been saying similar things about the way you presented yourself earlier? Admittedly that reasoning is stupid but whatever, stupid is stupid.

Why the profanity Rayn? You don't need to rely on that to be convincing, why are you resorting to it here?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 19:05 GMT
#971
I actually have a damn good reason for thinking blubb isn't scum atm, but my issue is it may be too early to reveal it, and yet I won't be around for deadline where it will be most valuable.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 19:08 GMT
#975
On September 14 2013 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 14 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean look at it:
"rayn made a case last game and his target was town"
"therefore his case is bad here now"

fuck this!

He may have not phrased it well but haven't I been saying similar things about the way you presented yourself earlier? Admittedly that reasoning is stupid but whatever, stupid is stupid.

Why the profanity Rayn? You don't need to rely on that to be convincing, why are you resorting to it here?

I am frustrated because nobody realizes why SnB is scum when he clearly is. It's not every post needs to scream scum, it's one thing that a townie can't do, and that's it. Scum do not slip in every post, one time is enough, and i found that out.

People are justifying not voting for SnB because "rayn's D1 cases are bad". That's not a reason to comment/analyze the case.

Who said specifically they don't want to vote SnB because they think your case is bad?
I'm still waiting on SnB to come back and explain the apparent lie you found (and even more so why he came back already and didn't address it) but aside from that I wouldn't be sure enough to vote him today even if he doesn't come back JUST because of that lie (as I feel that is the strongest part of your case).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 19:10 GMT
#977
On September 14 2013 04:08 kushm4sta wrote:
Rofl rayne you do this every game. Contradiction does not equal scum. You get tunneled on people for terrible reasons.

Your tunnel on snb looks exactly like your tunnel on wos in persona. Did you notice that?

I'm fairly sure I have pointed out the similarities in his play between games, but I don't think his reasons are necessarily terrible---his inability to keep an open mind regarding his tunneling probably is.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 19:14 GMT
#980
On September 14 2013 04:07 Umasi wrote:
Wagon on blub feels ominous, almost prefer op.

Fuck it. Make of this what you will but I really don't think Blubb is scum.
I've noticed that before people get lynched they are expected to make some sort of a reads post or something to help people out if they happen to flip town (never mind the=at TL towns ignore that shit anyway but whatever).

I think out of all the games I've played in, scum has made a post (for WIFOM) like this ONCE that I can think of offhand, and that was ShiaoPi in LXI. Most often scum simply don't want to bother. Blubb has made a post like this recently, and specifically told us to watch out for debears (I'm not saying debears is scum). The reason I didn't want to reveal this until later is because I'd want to see if he repeats this behaviour closer to deadline but since I'm not here I have to reveal it now.
TL;DR Scum don't give reads before getting lynched. I don't think blubb is scum.

Make of the above what you will but I think at this point I'd lynch OP simply by process of elimination.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 20:10 GMT
#1040
So I've still technically never played with a useful kush. He played well in Persona after I was lynched.

I'm leaning towards policy lynching him now. Yes he has the potential to be useful but I hate when people troll on purpose and expect to get away with it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 20:18 GMT
#1062
Alright kush with effort. I will have faith.
I'm gone as well guys.
vote: old partner
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 13 2013 20:18 GMT
#1065
Ebwop

##vote: old partner
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