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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 13:33 GMT
#3224
So from my first post of the game i pushed my Godfather. When the wagon didn't seem to happen, i looked onto other people. Then, when people start to think about what i said about BH i let go of my mislynch SnB (which is uncharacteristic for me in the first place), defend every other mislynch, and push people to vote for my Godfather for the rest of the day. When a fuckton of townies fuck up and he in fact survives, i call a vigi shot on him so hard at the start of D1 he fakeclaims survivor. I ask him to prove he is helping town, but instead of him doing so (when he still has a slight chance of survival) we come up with a plan that he claims anti-town. Then some people try to lynch debears instead of BH on D2 and i shut down every attempt of them doing so because BH has claimed he is not helping the town.

Yeah, makes sense Oats....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 13:37 GMT
#3227
On September 19 2013 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So from my first post of the game i pushed my Godfather. When the wagon didn't seem to happen, i looked onto other people. Then, when people start to think about what i said about BH i let go of my mislynch SnB (which is uncharacteristic for me in the first place), defend every other mislynch, and push people to vote for my Godfather for the rest of the day. When a fuckton of townies fuck up and he in fact survives, i call a vigi shot on him so hard at the start of D1 he fakeclaims survivor. I ask him to prove he is helping town, but instead of him doing so (when he still has a slight chance of survival) we come up with a plan that he claims anti-town. Then some people try to lynch debears instead of BH on D2 and i shut down every attempt of them doing so because BH has claimed he is not helping the town.

Yeah, makes sense Oats....

whats with the 'we'?
maybe he told you to bus him?

On D1, from the start of the game?
If i bus i don't intend to lynch my scumbuddies unless it's clear they are gonna get lynched. Does my D1 push on BH seem like i was not intending to lynch him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 13:40 GMT
#3228
On September 19 2013 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So from my first post of the game i pushed my Godfather. When the wagon didn't seem to happen, i looked onto other people. Then, when people start to think about what i said about BH i let go of my mislynch SnB (which is uncharacteristic for me in the first place), defend every other mislynch, and push people to vote for my Godfather for the rest of the day. When a fuckton of townies fuck up and he in fact survives, i call a vigi shot on him so hard at the start of D1 he fakeclaims survivor. I ask him to prove he is helping town, but instead of him doing so (when he still has a slight chance of survival) we come up with a plan that he claims anti-town. Then some people try to lynch debears instead of BH on D2 and i shut down every attempt of them doing so because BH has claimed he is not helping the town.

Yeah, makes sense Oats....

whats with the 'we'?
maybe he told you to bus him?

Really, you logic sounds as bad as Ace's from NWM N1....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 13:50 GMT
#3229
In fact, if somebody bussed BH it's you Oats. You voted for him when noone was talking about him and he was in no danger of getting lynched because people called SnB/blubb/Zealos/kush scum at that time.

You have been calling everyone scum in this game in turns with no real analysis at all. I don't get the townie feeling from you after D1, at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:10 GMT
#3230
Oats can you give 2 scumreads with proper reasoning please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:23 GMT
#3233
This is going to turn into a clusterfuck at the last moments of the day, Oats escaping it all again..
Mark my words.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:25 GMT
#3234
People we do not lynch in any case unless someone scumslips hard:
Grackaroni, Pandain, Sno_man, kushmasta, Oats.

Pick your best shot, i do not think it's Zealos, i think he'll turn up town.
Therefore i am voting for Vayne.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:27 GMT
#3238
Oh yeah, add Umasi to the list of "not getting lynched".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:30 GMT
#3241
On September 19 2013 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In fact, if somebody bussed BH it's you Oats. You voted for him when noone was talking about him and he was in no danger of getting lynched because people called SnB/blubb/Zealos/kush scum at that time.

You have been calling everyone scum in this game in turns with no real analysis at all. I don't get the townie feeling from you after D1, at all.

what happened from the page earlier where apparently im the only one who is trying to figure out the game other than you and kush? Hm?
Forgot about that?

Yeah yeah you were yelling people to lynch debears because BH is a survivor and questioned Snoman. Other people didn't do that much and you are not gonna get lynched today.

Can you give the scumreads now? And with proper reasoning.. I don't see any read of yours having a proper reasoning in this game besides the read on OP. While you usually jump from one place to another as town, in this game your thought process is extremely hard to follow. You seem like you are just making stuff on the fly based on last 3 posts in thread at that moment..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:31 GMT
#3242
Please people; Talk about Vayne/debears/Zealos, noone else is getting lynched today. If you disagree you better have very fucking good reasoning.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 14:42 GMT
#3246
I take back my earlier statement. I want to lynch Oats if he does not give me 2 scumreads with proper reasoning.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 16:16 GMT
#3251
wow.. Shit got interesting. Waiting for Pandain/debears(Umasi..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 17:45 GMT
#3264
On September 20 2013 02:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
no it's more the fact that you piggybacked onto stuff like that so early. Koshi was scum to me for more meta reasons and the fact that he wasn't doing anything, using people's town reads on him as an excuse to just idly stand by. I will be looking over day 1 again and comparing it to what happens in the final few hours here.

So you are already admitting doing nothing any more in this phase?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:07 GMT
#3271
Okay lynch Vayne.
I have been saying all over this day "look at the votes from D1", i have been making analyses from them, i have encouraged people looking into them and commenting on my analyses.

Now Vayne comes in, 4 hours before the deadline, and says "too late". scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:19 GMT
#3273
On September 20 2013 03:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok my last 100% read.
IS THAT VAYNE IS SCUM.

And Grack is town.
Wheeeee.
Vayne has been a lot less egoistical than normal. And he has been a lot less involved than normal other than shouting LYNCH PANDAIN AND GRACK GUYS. Also cause I think kush is town and therefore wrong, that means that Vayne is trying to piggyback kush's push and other dudes pushes and look active while being totally fucking useless.

Lynch this dude. Will flip red or black. 100%.


If I wouldn't get modkilled I could say a lot more stuff. Nothing here you say makes sense anyway since I was pushing these people light years before kush.

and please, useless coming from oats? Don't make me laugh. all you do is spam one liners.

Yeah, kush was pushing Pandain and debears on D2. He was also questioning Grackaroni about his scumgames.
What did you do. Oh yeah, you concluded that the scumteam is Grack/rayn/Koshi.

No, you were not pushing these people before kush, it's a lie.

Another lie is that you made a case on blubbers. You didn't. The three posts you quoted when i asked told this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 17 2013 23:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea not just him WoS, the blubbdavid guy did the same thing -_- just posted a one liner and peaced out. Wouldn't mind a vig taking out either of those guys. If they aren't going to give us content, I don't want to be the one stuck at lylo with them.

and I see you spotted the same thing I did in that grackaroni post, so glad we're on the same page. I disagree on that alone being vote worthy, but it definitely got me suspicious.

I think I can safely say you aren't 3rd party this game


Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 12 2013 21:01 blubbdavid wrote:
I went to bed after saying hi.

I have my eye on Koshi. Not only have his opening posts been as useful as a wet sack of dead flies, that scumhunting of his against SnB

SnB is feeling uncomfortable.
Not having the best start SnB? D:

and some other posts have led to that bandwagon. A very not so justified wagon.

further:
On September 12 2013 20:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 20:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually why everyone of those?

Reasons are in the thread.
SnB for the start + he hasn't given me a better target.
WoS for general uselessness.
Pandain for worst opening post.
Goodkarma, not impressed.

On September 12 2013 08:28 Koshi wrote:
This looks so much like Sicilian. I am leading SnB wagon of justice and VA his scumbuddy is trying to protect him. Could it be? Or not? Who knows. See what happens in the next episode "when Koshi wakes up".
for now ##Vote: Koshi
gn

SnB has very well given you a scumtarget in the form of VA.
Now SnB and VA are not on my scumradar, they rather look like two butthurt townies. But I will look into them further.

and lastly:
On September 12 2013 13:35 kushm4sta wrote:
honestly i dont even care if i get mislynched d1. d1 sucks azz anyway.

/martyr

If you want to help town, then how should this post be useful in anyway?


blubbdavid I would like your opinion on what you think of my analysis, it will tell me a lot of your alignment.

Ok so you pick a random person that is pretty much null to everyone in Koshi and decide to push him. ok great.

but wait your entire case just consists of his posting is "bad" which isn't really indicative of anything, just your opinion. Also note that koshi plays way worse as town.

You then go on to say that me and SnB just look like "butthurt" townies, perhaps trying to somehow gain some cred with us but then you leave us open to suspicion by saying "you will look into us later"

wtf?

then for good measure you throw in a bad kush quote and say that the posting is trash, well ok we all knew that. illusionary participation.


Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 04:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
I would disagree on WoS, his opening post was solid and real life should never be taken into account when forming scum reads. If you really want to look into it though, he's usually town when he gives these excuses since he probably gets really paranoid or whatever that people will think he's scum.

I can't read onegu for shit, so I honestly couldn't care less if he's vigged or whatever. He looks really scummy to me as both alignments in every game so no comment there.

Blubb's response to my case was satisfactory so doubt ill be leaving my vote there by the end of this cycle, but he needs to do a lot more then just that.



chronological order. I really did want to take my vote off blubb but had something to do at work and I couldn't be around for the time near the lynch. If I'm gonna get lynched for the second time due to real life reasons then so be it.


1) You put WoS and blubbers into same category, that's not a case, you say they are lurkers
2) You say what blubbers has done, you don't tell how that makes him scum, that's not a case
3) This is hilarious, you defend blubbers, definitely not a case.

So you never had a case on blubbers.

Another funny thing is that debears at some point agreed with "Vayne and friends" that blubbers is scummy. lol, Vayne has never made a case on blubbers.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:20 GMT
#3274
Another lie is that Vayne says he has been pushing people. Vayne hasn't been pushing a single person in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:22 GMT
#3275
On September 20 2013 03:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay lynch Vayne.
I have been saying all over this day "look at the votes from D1", i have been making analyses from them, i have encouraged people looking into them and commenting on my analyses.

Now Vayne comes in, 4 hours before the deadline, and says "too late". scum.


could I get an english translation?

I have been encouraging people to look into D1 votes and making analyses about them.
You have ignored the analyses, you have not looked into D1 voting.
Now you say that's important but it's "too late" to look into it before D3 ends.

Townies look into important things. You are not willing to do so. You are not willing to comment on analysis regarding those important things. Therefore you are not town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:34 GMT
#3280
Write a clear case on Grackaroni / Pandain and we'll see.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:35 GMT
#3281
Grack is one of the first people on OP, ok cool. Then when he is about to be lynched, he ninja vote switches. Suspicious much? between that and the other minor points ive been concerned about is enough to have me giving him a good chance to flip red.

Incorrect. Grackaroni didn't "ninja switch". He clearly told he thinks Pandain is town and he is going to vote for Zealos.

Pandain - this one is the strangest. This guy literally went ape shit about OP being lynched despite having a cool head the whole game. Who hard buddies as scum that badly? that's what is throwing me off. I dont know his play though, and he could have just panicked as scum.

This is not analysis, this is what happened. There is no conclusion.

Try again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 18:42 GMT
#3282
Here we fucking go. I have no idea what the fuck is going on in this game.
On September 20 2013 02:04 Pandain wrote:
##unvote
##vote kush

Why the fuck can't Pandain just post in thread when important things are happening. I am getting really mad, and soon i am going to tunnel Pandain into oblivion and lynch him. Why do you need to do this shit? Why can't you just post? You said "vayne is the best bet for scum". This is bullshit!

Ima take a hour break and calm down. Then i am going to vote for Pandain/Vayne. That's the time you got to explain yourself. Both of you, because you CLEARLY ARE BOTH HERE FFS!

##Unvote:
At least Vayne has balls to argue.
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