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On September 13 2013 04:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright, Panda managed to reveal that he's trying to find blue players, that he wants today's lynch to not be aiming for scum, that trying to lynch him "seems townie", and that the only reasoning against blubbers is "gut".
Anybody see anything remotely townie in there?
I do not know why you don't like that his reasonings against me is "gut", I mean you think that I am scum through gut feeling, but at the same time call the cattle black. Your reasonings aren't any better.
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Sn0, you are ignoring me, both as a person and as a potential wagon (or did the wagon fail), but when you are asked, then no doubt I must be scum. Could you please justify your suspicions. And could you please say WHY Panda's post is scum motivated, instead of saying that it is scummy. All you were doing all game long were accusations without backup.
I don't have a read on Panda atm.
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On September 13 2013 01:59 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 01:52 Sn0_Man wrote:On September 13 2013 01:46 blubbdavid wrote:
Koshi's push against SnB then was even less justified then my read on Koshi.
So you are admitting that your VOTE on koshi wasn't justified at all? Yep, this guy is scum. PS NMM5 is a long-ass time ago lol Is Koshi's push minus justified, so that my Vote on Koshi, which is more justified, is not justified at all? math how does it werk I will answer your questions soon, rayn, didn't see them.
You mean this post? I quoted? With your 4 reasons? I see three lines.
The first line is wrong. I never said that my vote on koshi is unjustified.
The second line is not a reason.
The third line is not a reason.
So of your 4 reasons, two do not classify as such, 1 is wrong, and 1 is non-existant.
Do you even read what you write?
Well, anyhow, in one case you are right, I have to go back scumhunting, been on the defense for too long.
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EBWOP:@ SNO, and the last line should read "in one point"
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On September 13 2013 05:22 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 04:39 blubbdavid wrote:On September 13 2013 04:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright, Panda managed to reveal that he's trying to find blue players, that he wants today's lynch to not be aiming for scum, that trying to lynch him "seems townie", and that the only reasoning against blubbers is "gut".
Anybody see anything remotely townie in there? I do not know why you don't like that his reasonings against me is "gut", I mean you think that I am scum through gut feeling, but at the same time call the cattle black. Your reasonings aren't any better. This is where you quoted my 4 simple reasons for pandain being scum.
Oh, I thought 4 reasons about me. Welp my fault. Still you do not have reasons against me.
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What I still find the most suspicious thing is Grack bringing down Panda's "horrible" opening post and Koshi agreeing for the same reasons as seen here Maybe his reads are right, but I find that first post bad. Reasons are given by PS and Grack after Pandain posted it. If Panda's reads could be right, but the post is bad, how does the badness of that post outweigh the accuracy of Panda's reads?
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Old Partner really likes WoS and wants to keep him in the game for longer, while I do not see anything outstanding that justifies such thought. The rest of his posts is a Great Nothing that makes my head hurt if I try to read it. And as I said before, he prolly is gonzaw who is known to clutter the whole thread, whereas something like that isn't happening. I know this is a vague reason. The next post (which Koshi hopes to be a blast) will probably again be a huge post that will say nothing. For me Panda's contributions are much better than OP's. But I really do not know much more.
Time to wait for WoS and see how OP reacts.
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I am backing off of Grack for the time being.
I think that rayn's case on SnB is not sufficient and that SnB is not a high priority lynch candidate. Furthermore, Koshi also wants to see SnB and since I distrust Koshi atm...
Since it seems like noone is jumping on my Koshi wagon, I will be down to lynch the following (in no particular order):
-Onegu (low priority): Last choice candidate, since we won't get any info whatsoever if we kill him
-Kush(low priority): Kush's concerns are right that if he flips town it will be useless for town, and since he is not jumping on my wagon, which could be easily done I give him some credit
-Zealos (high priority): Has only two useful posts, and both are in favor of people who I find suspicious
-goodkarma/Umasi (medium priority): Neither gk's nor Umasi's post are very contributing, I think Umasi is trying to jump on my wagon since it is the easiest thing to do for a newcomer scum, and since there is not much time left anyway.
So I will be down for lynching Zealos/Umasi and will adjust my vote depending on the answers I get
##Unvote for now
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I do not like the fact that Zealos is jumping on the wagon so quickly, without much analysis. Rayn, it may make sense that you feel offended by SnB's posting, but him questioning your meta is not helpful for scum except for making the main speaker (which you are) look bad. As he said on his big post, he is undecided about you.
The only thing I could hold against him is that he wants to see Panda dead.
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You may have pointed out his bullshit, but I don't see the scummy in this bullshit.
Voting for Zealos now.
##Vote: Zealos
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On September 13 2013 23:14 Koshi wrote:
bubbles = blubb
Meh, I think I want to lynch blubb or SnB.
Feel free to lynch SnB, that way you will get more info. I won't support it, but also don't want to defend him.
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On September 13 2013 23:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 23:30 blubbdavid wrote:On September 13 2013 23:14 Koshi wrote:
bubbles = blubb
Meh, I think I want to lynch blubb or SnB. Feel free to lynch SnB, that way you will get more info. I won't support it, but also don't want to defend him. You keep saying that you don't want to meddle with the SnB lynch. WHY?
I don't see much scumworthy in his postings. That's why.
On September 13 2013 23:44 Papa_Smurf wrote:
##vote blubb
My above post shows some pretty dang scummy thought process.he literally doesnt care about someone else getting oynched over his scum read in zealos
If I were scum I would be shipping SnB or kush now, hoping for an easy kill. Instead I am on my own hopeless island.
Analysis of Zealos:
On September 12 2013 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Well, Kush is pretty much a non read. Either a mad Mafia or a Mad town. I think it's better to see how he acts in the next day, in the light of this one.
This post just seems to agree with the general sentiment on Kush, him being anti-townie. Trying to blend in?
On September 12 2013 21:27 Zealos wrote:
I was gonna say that Koshi was the most useless filler post material ever, but I quite like how he posts towards the end of the day.
Koshi at that time was meddling with rayn ("We are on different planets today rayn.") Not taking a real stance on him. We all know that they are best buddies now ("rayn & Koshi powa is back!"). Has he entered a spacecraft? I don't want to suspect rayn now because those buddying postings all come from Koshi's side. Coincidentally Koshi already has SnB in his eye early because of that guys early posting.
Now as you can see, rayn-koshi-zealous are on the snb ship, and the have already touched eachother lightly in little banter.
This brings us to zealous next post (after an Isaac fluff post):
On September 13 2013 21:54 Zealos wrote:
And I like the point you bring up against SnB. I think it is probably the best lead to go by so far.
The rest of his postings are all against Zealous, without any analysis whatsoever. Don't you find that suspicious, Papa?
tldr why is zealous almost blindly following the rayn/koshi on the snb train?
Satisfied Papa?
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EBWOP: last paragraph should read: "The rest of his postings are all against SnB....."
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On September 14 2013 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 00:03 blubbdavid wrote:Analysis of Zealos:On September 12 2013 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Well, Kush is pretty much a non read. Either a mad Mafia or a Mad town. I think it's better to see how he acts in the next day, in the light of this one. This post just seems to agree with the general sentiment on Kush, him being anti-townie. Trying to blend in? On September 12 2013 21:27 Zealos wrote:
I was gonna say that Koshi was the most useless filler post material ever, but I quite like how he posts towards the end of the day. Koshi at that time was meddling with rayn ("We are on different planets today rayn.") Not taking a real stance on him. We all know that they are best buddies now ("rayn & Koshi powa is back!"). Has he entered a spacecraft? I don't want to suspect rayn now because those buddying postings all come from Koshi's side. Coincidentally Koshi already has SnB in his eye early because of that guys early posting. Now as you can see, rayn-koshi-zealous are on the snb ship, and the have already touched eachother lightly in little banter. This brings us to zealous next post (after an Isaac fluff post): On September 13 2013 21:54 Zealos wrote:
And I like the point you bring up against SnB. I think it is probably the best lead to go by so far. The rest of his postings are all against Zealous, without any analysis whatsoever. Don't you find that suspicious, Papa? tldr why is zealous almost blindly following the rayn/koshi on the snb train? Satisfied Papa? 1) Are you saying town!Zealos cannot make "kush is a non-read, give him more time" read? How does that makes Zealos scum? Why does Zealos look worse compared to other people who have the same read on kush? 2) So me and Koshi voting for same target makes the target town and everyone joining the wagon scum? How? Do not make those retarded connection cases because it makes you look dumb or scummy. Even if me/Koshi/both is scum it doesn't tell anything about Zealos' alignment. He agrees with my case, what's wrong with it? 3) Can you tell me why the case on SnB does not make him scum? What reason does he have to lie about his meta on me as town? What reason does he have to make a post where he reaches no conclus ion on anything he talks about at the time other people are calling me scummy/bad?
1) Zealos so far has only talked about Kush, Koshi and SnB. His post on Kush strikes me as a complete filler post, as I said trying to blend in. In another post he is talking about how d1 is a clusterfuck and so. Useless filler.
2) He agrees on your case after taking a glance in the thread and doesn't mention me or kush (who are candidates). Why doesn't he take stance on other cases and immediately agrees with you cuz "is probably the best lead to go by so far"? And me and kush are not suspicious?
3) SnB has started to post against you when you were suspicious of OP. Why should he try to bring down your credibility when you weren't a real danger for scum (as noone really cared about OP)? Yes, he may have some fetish with that meta bullcrap and may be wrong on that, but from a scum side of view it doesn't make sense at all. All it brought him is that people are now against us.
Papa, what is your stance on SnB? Are you trying to push me on the pyre for a lynch so that SnB, if he is scum, doesn't have to die? since atm snb and me are both death candidates. I guess rayn would also be interested in that.
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goddamn EBWOP: 3) ending should be "....against him"
OMGIS
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Let's 1) be since it is not my main reason
2) It is ok that he agrees with reasons. But you must take a look at the silent evidence: Thus far Zealos has not contributed anything useful, not even to SnB's case. Some of us even want(ed) to shoot him because of his lurking. Now, if he were a townie, why doesn't he step up and compensate his absence with some good analysis and reads? Instead, he takes the easy way. I really want to know what he thinks about me.
3) Mind to repost the implied lines, so that we don't get confused?
I am pretty neutral on SnB and if you and Koshi want to lynch him, go ahead. On the other hand it is just inexcusable for Zealos to hop on the wagon and contribute nothing after a long time lurking. I am repeating myself.
Still want to know papa's stance on SnB.
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On September 14 2013 00:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
HIII im not lynching zealos
havent read snb's filter.
Dont really wanna lynch kush
Wanna lynch blubbdavid and uhh The Panther
Lynch SnB, not me, I don't wanna die.
And I am actually contributing somewhat.
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I will even vote on SnB if it means to hold off my death.
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Why, should I martyr myself? But that doesn't give clues on SnB.
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