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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:29 GMT
#2052
On September 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:53 strongandbig wrote:
man i still want to lynch rayne. like, this doesn't strike me as a townie mindset:
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 16 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not need to make a case on anyone, i want to lynch OP today.
Isn't it annoying when a townie will not tell you what makes you scum? You probably need to kill me next night.


On September 16 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.

The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked.

tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it.

I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today?


if you think someone is scum, you should explain why... otherwise what if you die? what if your other case is wrong? and more importantly, it gives people more stances that they can use to read you.


it's just, like, trying to get rayn lynched is going to take so much effort, and i have no idea if i'll gain any traction at all...

i'm honestly a little less certain than I was yesterday, because rayn doesn't feel like he's been as aggressively and retardedly confrontational as I expect scum-him to be. but I really don't see how you can have 16 pages of filter as town and have your only real cases/pushes be the terrible tunnel on me that was based on nitpicking and misconstruing my posts, and now his push on OP that is entirely "there can't be two survivors".

it's like, he if anyone would do all that yelling and bad arguing to try to get me mislynched as scum... but would he really?


Can people talk to me here about rayn?
+ Show Spoiler +

I feel like zealos is obviscum though and would rather lynch him for the moment.

i need to reread bh's filter post-claim and see how I feel about his lynch. I could maybe get down with it, though, in large part because of the breadcrumb thing
.

Lynching rayn is bad. Just play the game by rayn his rules and he will find the scummers eventually. Rayn was completely wrong about the scummers in his first 20 pages of filter in Persona. Then he got it right.

There is nothing scummy about what rayn is doing. You might dislike that he is hunting you, but at least he is hunting. You are also not getting lynched so I don't really see why you are being so annoyed.

btw, if there weren't people like rayn then you would go into lylo with a LOT LESS information. rayn hunts active posters in his games. Unlike others.


i disagree. rayn makes the thread too long and hard to re-read and analyze in-depth. regardless of his alignment i think having him in a game hurts town.

This is such bullshit and such a cheap shot. Spewing bullshit like a monkey. Probably heard it somewhere else first?
Fucking back this up? You can't. Rayn post a lot but that is a quality IN BOTH ALIGNMENTS. Nothing else.

Fact that you can't keep up with it is your fault. Because you can't keep up. jubjub.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:29 GMT
#2053
/end rage
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:31 GMT
#2054
On September 16 2013 06:27 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.

The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked.

tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it.

I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today?


Did I ask you for one?

Are you here?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:36 GMT
#2056
Can you give me your 5 most likely townreads + reasons.

I'll type up why I think you are a scummer :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:45 GMT
#2059
We should.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:58 GMT
#2060
On September 12 2013 07:51 Papa_Smurf wrote:
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On September 12 2013 07:44 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 12 2013 07:19 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw kush, raynp, grock.

Please don't spam. I'm begging you guys. Makes the game freakin impossible to read.

And SnB i have an idea how to do it.


ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! How dare you include me with the spammers?!! I never spam. Who the fuck is this smurf coward? anyone know his real identity?


I'm finding it extremely odd that you would actually feel mad about that given I have played with you in multiple games and know you have a tendency to post alot, sometimes in an anti-town fashion (unless you recently changed your meta).

And the fact that I didn't say it in offensive fashion either is another check against you thus far. It feels like forced emotion

Is this true? Did Kush ever spam?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 21:59 GMT
#2061
Ok. Seems like the red smurf is not answering. But partly why I think PS is scum.

When he was still smurfing. (And this only lasted for 3 pages lol)
1) He was easy to read. Nice pressure on Vayne + SnB.

2) He started asking questions about Kush to VA. While Kush had said nothing at all. This wouldn't be a problem if Mr smurf didn't know who Kush was, but surprise surprise, 200 posts later he is still on Kush.
So now I want to know if Debears can really read Kush. If he can't, he is scum.
and because I think Kush is town ---> Debears is likely scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 22:02 GMT
#2062
So yeah, if you can link me to Kush games in which he spams. Please let me know, it must be more than 3 months ago.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 22:07 GMT
#2063
hmm, it's more because we didn't know who mr smurf was than the fact that mr smurf knew who kush was.
But now that we know, I need to know if kush was once a spammer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 22:21 GMT
#2064
On September 13 2013 02:58 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Iunno, kush seems pretty lynchable to me (in general, not right now).
If he doesn't start playing like persona 4 then we just lynch him ezpz. Give him time to get rolling tho. Considering how valuable to town he was in P4 I'm in no hurry to get him.

Thats like a large part of my thoughts on blubbdavid. Who wants to lynch Kush/Koshi D1? scum do lol. Okay I wanted to lynch Koshi D1 but he fucked up a Self-Aware miller claim day 1.

Where'd kush go anyways?


So, you are going to base all of kush's townplay off of one game he played really well in and hold him to that standard? That doesn't make sense. That game is an outlier for him.

@Everyone
Kush is not unreadable in any way. He's hard to read, but he has scum tells that differ from his town game. He should not be vig shot. He should be lynched if his posting continues the way it does.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 22:24 GMT
#2065
On September 13 2013 07:32 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 13 2013 07:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 12 2013 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
4) As i said earlier, dumb questions. The last one is fair.

5a) HE misses the fact that you were the one who called SnB uncomfortable first. Why does he want to know about that from SnB? From reading the thread he seems to be having a townread on SnB, i don't know his read on you. Why ask a townread why he calls another guy uncomfortable, why does he not want to know whay YOU think his townread is uncomfortable instead?

5b) VA's read on SnB is completely fine. For me this question reads as "SnB you are not allowed to think VA is town, because in case you guys think each other is town that removes two suspects from the pool". That's casting doubt on VA for his read on SnB and telling SnB to not trust VA (for what reason?).

6) See (5b). He is doing the same thing here, "guys, do not have a town read on VA". "Do you still have a scumread on SnB, as you unvoted him". Yeah, people usually unvote their scumreads, question makes totally sense!



On September 12 2013 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 12 2013 20:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 12 2013 20:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually why everyone of those?

Reasons are in the thread.
SnB for the start + he hasn't given me a better target.
WoS for general uselessness.
Pandain for worst opening post.
Goodkarma, not impressed.

I think SnB comes off pretty townie based on the thread.
I got nothing much to say about WoS at this point. Would like to hear more from him.
How's Pandain's post any worse than OP's? Pandain has explained reads in his post at least..
What's wrong with GK? I think everything he has posted makes a lot of sense.



On September 12 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because Vayne has explained his read on SnB. The question should not be "how can you be so sure" because that's what Vayne has told already. The question is pointless, Vayne has strong meta-reasons to think SnB is town. Does this make him town or scum is a valid question?

Why ask SnB about that while not giving a conclusion of your own? Does it affect to your conclusion somehow. If SnB says "yeah Vayne is right" does that make vayne scum or town? If SnB says "Vayne is wrong" does that make vayne scum or town?

I don't see the point of questioning in that matter. Vayne has a strong town read on SnB for meta-reasons, that's it. I think it makes him more likely town, almost definitely town regardless of SnB's alignment (who i think is town too btw).

I said in this thread multiple times that 1) I like OP his posts 2) I don't like Pandain his opening post. How is that not an answer to your question? Why do you even ask that question...

Because my question is WHY, not what. Give something concrete instead of saying "this post is good, this bad". Show me why OP's post is good in comparsion to Pandain's.



Whatever happened to all this:

"I think SnB is town" stuff
"vayne has a strong town meta read and that's fine" stuff

If you think VA is town, why is his strong meta read, which you thought was fine, now incorrect?

Because my read on SnB changed after his horrible hit-and-run entrance an hour ago. I just explained it to Koshi.



So you spent all that time defending VA and SnB, yet you suddenly lose all of it for one post?

That doesn't make any sense at all

Might show a mindset that you "need" to keep consistent about your scumreads? So he is faking his scumread on kush trough this entire game because PS thinks that not doing so is scummy?

But anyway, unless PS can prove to me with his "sexy" meta reads that kush is scum I think he has been faking is scumread on kush since the start of this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 22:32 GMT
#2066
Then there is the fact that PS quality of posts when he is talking set-up speculation (see his post about the NK) or his defense of the kush case is way better and readable than his scumhunting posts. You can read that he has interesting ideas, there is some level of smartness coming from it.

The one-line scumhunting is just being agressive and there is nothing smart to read behind his scumhunt posts. (Early in the game he had smart questions to VA, now it is just bad questions.) The big post he did before Day 2 was really bad and everybody ended up with a scumread. "this I like about you" "this I don't like about you"
I am pretty sure he knew that post was so shitty he didn't bother formatting it better.


These are the main reasons. Is my vote now justified?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:11 GMT
#2071
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Are you really claiming veteran?

Fuck this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#2072
I am really upset atm.

How fucking big is your ego that you think that you got hit instead of a succesful doc.

And then multiply that ego by 10 because you are going to apply wifom to the nightkill because they shot you because you were right about the scummers?

That rarely happens. Most of the times they shoot people that are wrong or w.e
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:17 GMT
#2074
They even got a RB and you claim vet. What a bunch of bullshit.

You have better asked that RB wouldn't prevent you getting 1 shot.

Because now you will get shot and we will know nothing about SnB his claim being legit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:17 GMT
#2075
On September 16 2013 08:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 08:11 Koshi wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Are you really claiming veteran?

Fuck this game.

I really don't think I chose a bad time to claim... the information is useful.

And no the information isn't useful.

The fucking reason why I am on PS and not on OP is because I want to promote discussion and not let 48 hours go to waste because every fucker in here is voting on OP.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:18 GMT
#2076
woopiefuckingdoo you got a townread on PS.

better claim veteran!!!!!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#2077
I knew you had a townread on him before you claimed and I had a townread on you.

Like wtf changes now?

I also guessed WoS wasn't shot by scummers.

Like you bring nothing new to the table.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#2078
AND THEN SOME.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#2080
Btw.

Please paste your entire role pm.


Thank you!
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