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On September 16 2013 02:04 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2013 01:32 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum. I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm.. and when was this? lol are u talking about SnB's case? Cuz you thought it was accurate Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it. Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was. I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it. No, you are wrong. SnB expecially said "as town rayn pushes important matters".Why don't you look at my last three town games (not Aperture - because i did not have time to play properly so i didn't do much anything), and tell me straight to my face this comment of SnB's is accurate. I even know myself he is worng, the matters i have pushed, especially on D1's, were not important. How does SnB know what i have pushed this game was not important? At that point i had ONLY pushed a guy who is either third party or scum and things regarding him, that was not important, let's say compared to people who pushed blubbers for no fucking reason? There was never a case on blubbers, not a single case, people just voted for him because they were afraid of pushing their own cases or they were sheeps. Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: The post looks fucking good in filter because it describes my meta pretty well. It sounds good. However, what's wrong in that post is: 1) it is not a read on me, it says "rayn is scum or is not", what's the point of that post? 2) the timing, people (you, sno, Koshi, etc) were discussing lynching me (serious or not). He pops in with a comment that says "yeah, rayn is hard to read, this stuff is odd", gives no definite stance on me, gives no real read on me. I know this shit. If i was a bad mafia player and got lynched today SnB would be the influence behind the lynch and nobody would ever be able to track that lynch back to him. I know this shit, that's what i do as scum. It's sneaky as fuck. 3) No explanation when asked, hit-and-run post, people forget those if it gains no momentum. How do you now find it an inaccurate meta read, when you said it was fucking accurate earlier Because there are only slight differences in my scum/town play, and the conclusion "rayn is hard to read" is a reasonable conclusion. I didn't read that post with full concentration at that time. I only noticed something is fucking off in that post and only later analyzed it better.
Why are you again dodging answering me and comign up with something entirely different? Can you just fucking answer my post and not flip-flop around it?
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On the other hand debears is right and we are not lynching him, we are lynching BH who has failed to deliver.
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On September 16 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote: rayn why do you think WoS was killed by scummers? I actually don't. I just saw one person dead after night and make a hasty decision without thinking it over when i read the thread after night.
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I don't care to argue with you. I hope people can see how wrong your argument is.
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On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote: Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!
For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT
If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either
1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was. 2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor
neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.
And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack I think you are either 1) SK with BP ability, or 2) Scum
In either case The Captain is your fakeclaim. I agree with you that people questioning the rolename are dumb. You have yet to deliver. Now stop defending yourself and tell people who is scum and why.
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On September 16 2013 02:48 Old Partner wrote: I'm sorry rayn, I'm just saying it's not my fault my role name doesn't happen to be on the wiki. It's the PM I got, what am I supposed to do about it? Yeah that was to debears (my comment). My bad, should have quoted his post..
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Can people now see why Vayne is scum?
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Why would any sane scumteam shoot WoS? Why is the only other option for only one death "scum holding KP"?
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No, why would scum hit WoS who is a scumread for almost everyone and didn't do much anything on D1? And why can't somebody have been docced / veteran have been hit? You are suggesting that as the only option, why?
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You are trying to justify your survivor-read on BH by the fact that WoS was killed by scum and there were no other deaths. You are either very dumb or protecting a SK / scumbuddy.
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Vayne where do i have extra information?
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Btw i can tell you it's totally not me and Koshi who looks patchetic and desperate..
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I do not need to make a case on anyone, i want to lynch OP today. Isn't it annoying when a townie will not tell you what makes you scum? You probably need to kill me next night.
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On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote: Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.
The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked. tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it.
I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today?
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He starts contributing or we lynch him tomorrow. I think his responses near the lynch were townie, but that does not make him totally town. Same can be said about Umasi (the contributing part).
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So SnB what does Zealos do as scum and how is it different from his town games?
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I don't think this game has 2 survivors + the night kill points towards SK. This game definitely does not have 2 survivors and SK.
Like, do you seriously think mafia hit WoS?
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Grackaroni why? Don't post your role PM. He is not scum, but the "info we got" means nothing because there is no info..
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Hey, of course Grackaroni fakeclaimed under no pressure and they staged a full retard shoutfest with Koshi. I also went on with this fake thing. We totally had to do this under absolutely zero pressure. We are all scum, damn Vayne solved the game!
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