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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 17:52 GMT
#4062
On September 26 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne you are right. That is indeed pretty similar, even more scum sided.


that is why im not sure why you are resisting that solution when you know you are a doctor if you are telling the truth, which is making me annoyed at you. an additional blue role should make this option much more viable but instead you are shutting it down.

Okay i get you. We need Pandain here though. I know he just posted in the other game he is in.

Pandain, wanna kill Oatsmaster?


like I said earlier my problem here is that killing oats essentially does nothing. both of you are still convinced that grack cannot be scum so its the same fucking thing tomorrow and im going crazy enough with this one phase.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 17:53 GMT
#4065
On September 26 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man I really want to go to sleep.

Vayne, who thinks you are town? ME!.
Who wants to mislynch people? SCUM.
Therefore Im not scum. Or Im scum with you. Right? So vote for rayn.


Voting for rayn makes me scum unless really bastard hosting. 2 shot vig is only possible with a doctor, rayn is not scum.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 17:55 GMT
#4068
On September 26 2013 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne you are right. That is indeed pretty similar, even more scum sided.


that is why im not sure why you are resisting that solution when you know you are a doctor if you are telling the truth, which is making me annoyed at you. an additional blue role should make this option much more viable but instead you are shutting it down.

Okay i get you. We need Pandain here though. I know he just posted in the other game he is in.

Pandain, wanna kill Oatsmaster?


like I said earlier my problem here is that killing oats essentially does nothing. both of you are still convinced that grack cannot be scum so its the same fucking thing tomorrow and im going crazy enough with this one phase.

If we kill scum now you can be sure i will look at everything the remaining two people have done throughout the game, and cross-reference their actions/interactions to flipped scum.


alright I can live with that. I will do anything I can tomorrow to make sure that you know I'm town.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#4077
On September 26 2013 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man I really want to go to sleep.

Vayne, who thinks you are town? ME!.
Who wants to mislynch people? SCUM.
Therefore Im not scum. Or Im scum with you. Right? So vote for rayn.


Voting for rayn makes me scum unless really bastard hosting. 2 shot vig is only possible with a doctor, rayn is not scum.

So that means you are scum.

YOU SEE THE PROBLEM I HAVE HERE?

One way, mechanics says that its unlikely.
Another way, my reads say that you and Grack arent scum.

Those are the 2 possible scumteams.

Vayne/Grack
Rayn/Pandain.

So which one should I vote for Vayne?


the setup wouldn't make any sense if rayn was scum and I don't see him making that big case on his partner day 1.

you guys are actually mirror images in a way

rayn = voted for OP and provided reasoning

oats = voted for OP, little to no reasoning

pandain = resisted OP lynch, provided reasoning

grack = resisted OP lynch, providing little to no reasoning.

see the problem here?
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:02 GMT
#4080
On September 26 2013 03:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:59 Pandain wrote:
My computer died. I would love to lynch oats. I agree he is not contributing and content to let lurk.

What?


yea this is pretty suspicious, you are lurking far more then oats. time to contribute so I can actually get a read on you before this lynch is over. please say something of substance pandain.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:04 GMT
#4082
On September 26 2013 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne what do you think of my statement above?


what you said is fact, if you are town then those are the 2 scumteams available to you. The problem I have is I know I'm town and you/grack look a lot worse to me than rayn and pandain looks the worst with his lurking and saying others are lurking. I want him to post his opinions
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:10 GMT
#4087
On September 26 2013 03:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 03:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne what do you think of my statement above?


what you said is fact, if you are town then those are the 2 scumteams available to you. The problem I have is I know I'm town and you/grack look a lot worse to me than rayn and pandain looks the worst with his lurking and saying others are lurking. I want him to post his opinions

Ahaha.
But if Im scum, I would just continue voting for you and sleep right? And act more normal because I already know what I need to do to win the game.

You see, I must be town because I dont want to kill you.


I don't agree since as you just saw the vote can change while you go to sleep. but yes its annoying since it pretty much looks like this

rayn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oats > grack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pandain

so who is the scum, the super townie medic and useless lurker or the two people in the middle? From my perspective this setup makes more sense with the medic. If you and me are both town I will be pretty pissed.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:10 GMT
#4089
On September 26 2013 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats and Vayne, why do you need to get a read on Pandain to lynch scum?


because he is the weak point of your team. So far you have just been speaking for both of you for a long time, it's hard to figure out if you are the scumteam when the better player is doing all the leg work.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:14 GMT
#4092
On September 26 2013 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 03:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne what do you think of my statement above?


what you said is fact, if you are town then those are the 2 scumteams available to you. The problem I have is I know I'm town and you/grack look a lot worse to me than rayn and pandain looks the worst with his lurking and saying others are lurking. I want him to post his opinions

Ahaha.
But if Im scum, I would just continue voting for you and sleep right? And act more normal because I already know what I need to do to win the game.

You see, I must be town because I dont want to kill you.


I don't agree since as you just saw the vote can change while you go to sleep. but yes its annoying since it pretty much looks like this

rayn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oats > grack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pandain

so who is the scum, the super townie medic and useless lurker or the two people in the middle? From my perspective this setup makes more sense with the medic. If you and me are both town I will be pretty pissed.

No, think of it like if you are in the position im in, but scum.
So you are scum.
So Oats has 4 votes on him, including yours.
You know Oats is town.

Instead, you decide to try and yolo lynch the town medic.

It sounds really bad right? Yeah. Thats why Im town.


Im not really following, how is lynching the town medic good? for me to consider voting rayn you would have to have like a really glaring reason/case like when I showed the hole in his logic with the vig thing. if you can find him lying about something really important I would believe you more. Doesn't look like we're going to get any pandain contribution which is annoying.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:20 GMT
#4097
but then you are assuming that im a complete idiot oats, which is true sometimes, but do you know how dumb I would look to lose game for town because I kill our medic? Just because its "stupid" or "impossible" play doesn't make it town.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:30 GMT
#4102
On September 26 2013 03:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
but then you are assuming that im a complete idiot oats, which is true sometimes, but do you know how dumb I would look to lose game for town because I kill our medic? Just because its "stupid" or "impossible" play doesn't make it town.

Im not assuming you are a complete idiot.
What is going on here?

Look, either you vote for me or vote for rayn.
I already outlined the reasons that I cant ever be scum.
So means that you should vote for Rayn.


You should be telling why i am scum and not why you are town, because you can't possibly give reasons why you are town over me.

And you can also not say by process of elimination because if you do i will hammer you to the ground. So why am i scum?

I dont need to convince you.

I can say by Process of elimination.

Its by Process of elimination.


you need to give some reasoning though of like some big mistake rayn made or something. I can't just vote for him because you say so? that is playing to lose
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:33 GMT
#4107
http://gma.yahoo.com/internet-sensation-papa-smurf-dies-other-blue-people-153011987--abc-news-health.html

RIP debears.

if there isn't a case oats why would I vote for him? I do not think you are more townie then rayn. as I stated already I think rayn is the towniest, with pandain being the least townie.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:37 GMT
#4115
On September 26 2013 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
You want to lynch Pandain?
I can lynch Pandain too.


yea I would lynch pandain right now in a heartbeat if he wasn't attached to rayn, so he's lucky for that cuz he hasn't done shit since day 1.

you have to prove to me somehow that there is only a parity cop/mason/veteran vs roleblock/godfather/vig...that doesnt make sense to me
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:41 GMT
#4118
On September 26 2013 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
You want to lynch Pandain?
I can lynch Pandain too.


yea I would lynch pandain right now in a heartbeat if he wasn't attached to rayn, so he's lucky for that cuz he hasn't done shit since day 1.

you have to prove to me somehow that there is only a parity cop/mason/veteran vs roleblock/godfather/vig...that doesnt make sense to me

What does me being a doctor have to do with my alignment?
Is it the only reason you think i am town?


you missed my earlier post.

rayn/pandain = giving analysis/reasons on why they voted/didn't vote for OP

oats/grack = not giving analysis reasons for voting/not voting OP

who do you think is townier rayn?
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:42 GMT
#4119
On September 26 2013 03:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 26 2013 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
You want to lynch Pandain?
I can lynch Pandain too.


yea I would lynch pandain right now in a heartbeat if he wasn't attached to rayn, so he's lucky for that cuz he hasn't done shit since day 1.

you have to prove to me somehow that there is only a parity cop/mason/veteran vs roleblock/godfather/vig...that doesnt make sense to me

Setup is Setup.
I cant prove what I dont know.

What I do probably know, is that I think Grack is town, and therefore Rayn and Pandain is scum.
ITs that simple.
Everything revolves around my read on Grack.


and I think it is more likely that you and grack are scum together so you can see why your read on grack is meaningless to me? you need to show me why rayn is scum, not why your connective partner is town.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:50 GMT
#4128
I don't care about lynching grackaroni or oats, either works. either way we win when they are both dead, end of story
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:53 GMT
#4134
On September 26 2013 03:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok I cant take this.
Im sleeping.

Vayne, think about this. If you think that one of the players in the game is way more scummy than the rest of the players, it means that his partner is scum. No matter what right?

So please. Think about it, If you think pandain is super scum, then Rayn MUST BE SCUM RIGHT? So vote for Rayn.
LAST PLEA.

PLEASE VAYNE. LETS WIN!. PKEASEE


no dude its quite the opposite. Scum is as strong as their strongest player and town is as weak as their weakest player.

So either you show me why rayn is the super strong scum player or I just think pandain is our terrible town player and rayn as medic is our best town player.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:56 GMT
#4137
On September 26 2013 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For once, Oats, if you are town. Look at what has happened at this phase and think objectively.
If you are town put your vote on Grackaroni.


he's not going to vote his partner lol, this pretty much solidifies it for me. Our job here is done. he only wants to lynch me or you.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 18:56 GMT
#4138
On September 26 2013 03:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
I like this circular logic.

But I got it first., And I explained it better. Therefore Im town.

Rayn is trying any means to not lynch his scumteam. Think about it Vayne.
At the start of the cycle, he wanted to lynch you.
Then he wanted to lynch me. Now he wants to lynch Grack.
All to find someone that the last townie would sheep. Cause scum needs 1 townie to vote with him.

That makes Rayn scum. I called everyone scum except me. That means Im town.




ok nevermind this kind of makes sense. rayn why are you trying to just vote for anyone at this point
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 19:03 GMT
#4146
On September 26 2013 04:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats are you seriously unable to see the town!motivation of my actions this phase?
Come on.. you are not this bad.

no im not able to see the town!motivation of your actions.

Im gone.

Vayne make the right call bby.




alright im gonna read day 1 again and try to see if its a bus case or town case. rayn has been trying to figure out the game this whole time though (although he has tunneled me for a while and im still alive) so that will probably tell me the most.
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