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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 20 2013 22:46 GMT
#3683
oh right, scum could have also withheld their shot to incriminate some one. That doesn't seem likely though.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 20 2013 23:06 GMT
#3685
On September 21 2013 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 07:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
Alright so scenario one:

Scum and SK both shoot umasi, doesn't really tell us anything.

scenario two: We accept that both debears and rayn's role claims are legit. With 4 blue roles, it is now much more likely that scum is in posession of a framer. What this would mean is that rayn was framed at some point if he is in fact the doctor, making pandain confirmed scum.

scenario three: (Most likely imo) Either our parity cop or doctor is fake. The bread crumb is terrible and the timing of the claim makes no sense given that he could have saved town yesterday if he claimed.

scenario four: SK just hit debears and rayn saved him, scum roleblocked debears and shot umasi. which would clear debears/rayn and that brings us back to scenario two.

So even though I am personally biased against scenario 3, there is a pretty solid chance scenario 2 or 4 happened

Whisch one of the claims is fake nad why?


well thats what im thinking about right now. debears claim is much more believable for a multitude of reasons:

1. your overall play is scummier
2. You fake claim every day all day, its like the guy crying wolf or whatever
3. your breadcrumb is frankly, awful
4. already asked for other blue claims so we could guarantee a scum lynch and you didn't come out.

They don't even have to be fake as I explained, but yours is much worst. like it's not even close
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:22 GMT
#3688
could we get a modkill on this guy? he's clearly never actually going to play the game. thanks
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:27 GMT
#3690
You refuse to stop using ad hom attacks and the mods clearly stated to stop. you're just a cancer to the game at this point.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:29 GMT
#3692
make a case on why im scum then? I've already destroyed all your others so you're probably too scared.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:30 GMT
#3694
nah im asking the questions here now. i put up with your bullshit for a while. there's nothing to elaborate on there. show everyone why you think im scum so i can debunk it.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:32 GMT
#3697
post a case on why im scum then? why can you not do that?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:33 GMT
#3698
and explain what you want "elaborated on" in that post, given that it is completely concrete.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:35 GMT
#3701
write a case and explain what you want elaborated on first
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:36 GMT
#3704
so im asking to see your case on why im scum and what you want me to explain in that post. you still have not said what you want elaborated.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:38 GMT
#3706
On September 21 2013 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
so im asking to see your case on why im scum and what you want me to explain in that post. you still have not said what you want elaborated.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:39 GMT
#3709
make a case on me, you can't
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 00:42 GMT
#3712
Why am I scum? I answered all your questions the last couple days it's time for you to answer
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 15:15 GMT
#3731
have you played mafia before grackaroni? mod confirmed SK coming back mafia alignment, meaning its a bulletproof role this game..I clearly explained it in my previous post. With that said, i don't think rayn is the best kill today, pandain is since he is part of the mafia team. better to leave 1 of each alive and make them 2nd guess the other. There is the chance of a framer with rayn being doctor so its the safest play. If he isn't he is currently an SK with no more protection; he's a sitting duck with a mafia roleblocker.

If any of this doesn't make sense then ask now.

##vote:pandain
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 15:22 GMT
#3733
On September 22 2013 00:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
have you played mafia before grackaroni? mod confirmed SK coming back mafia alignment, meaning its a bulletproof role this game..I clearly explained it in my previous post. With that said, i don't think rayn is the best kill today, pandain is since he is part of the mafia team. better to leave 1 of each alive and make them 2nd guess the other. There is the chance of a framer with rayn being doctor so its the safest play. If he isn't he is currently an SK with no more protection; he's a sitting duck with a mafia roleblocker.

If any of this doesn't make sense then ask now.

##vote:pandain

Ok so then mafia shot the SK. Why did the SK shoot Umasi? What's the point there was no way Umasi was mafia. SK should be trying to balance out the game.



That doesn't appear to be the case. The SK probably thought he was safe with his vest and wanted to limit town numbers, hoping mafia would do the same so they could joint today or whatever. but luckily for us that didn't happen
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#3761
On September 22 2013 02:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount:

strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet

VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf

WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta

Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow

kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos

Pandain(0): Grackaroni

Old Partner(4): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow

Koshi(0): blubbdavid

blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi,Pandain

Zealos(4): blubbdavid, strongandbig, Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain, Old Partner

raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig

blubbdavid has been lynched!




This whole lack of hit notifications thing sucks o.O.

So we are left with Vayne sn0 grack.

Those are likely the scumteam + sk.

I gotta think of lylo scenarios and such to where we can win


problem here is that I am town so you are certainly missing something in your analysis. There is nothing that points to me being scum this game except for people constantly shouting it. The correct lynch today is pandain, there is no scenario in this game where he isn't scum as I've outlined.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#3762
On September 22 2013 02:44 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Yeah. Sn0 has to be sk. Vayne has to be scum (otherwise his question about the rb makes no sense)

Ok so now it has to be down to grack and oats for the final scum.


also can you explain why my rb question makes sense if im scum? I already explained why I asked it.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 23:22 GMT
#3766
you can't hold your shot as SK, im pretty sure.

anyways you should be more worried about the fact that everyone is just lynching a guy that isn't even here to defend himself...this is dumb.

vote pandain for justice
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#3768
On September 22 2013 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
have you played mafia before grackaroni? mod confirmed SK coming back mafia alignment, meaning its a bulletproof role this game..I clearly explained it in my previous post. With that said, i don't think rayn is the best kill today, pandain is since he is part of the mafia team. better to leave 1 of each alive and make them 2nd guess the other. There is the chance of a framer with rayn being doctor so its the safest play. If he isn't he is currently an SK with no more protection; he's a sitting duck with a mafia roleblocker.

If any of this doesn't make sense then ask now.

##vote:pandain


this is why oats, unless you can persuade me why rayn would be better
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 21 2013 23:50 GMT
#3771
and that's why im not voting for rayn, I see that line of logic. however I don't see why you don't see that with a doctor added to the mix, the 3 scum is very likely to be RB/godfather/framer as a RB/godfather/goon in this setup would be incredibly weak.

both rayn or pandain would make a fine framer target, considering they were both prominent players in this game. Hence, pandain is mafia. I get that it isn't as obvious to you since I know I'm town but pandains play hasn't made sense this game and I hope you would see that...
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