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On September 17 2013 01:41 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:38 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 17 2013 01:36 Old Partner wrote:
Can I hear it now? I don't want to wait ;_; PM me when you are dead and I will reveal all in terms of the mafia trends :D what, does it make you look scummy?
Can't be giving away my reading methods in the middle of the game.
There are still people who fit the criteria
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On September 17 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:34 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 17 2013 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
My case was amazing and right. Completely different attitude as scum.
Show me debears insulting someone as town.
My reads right now are panda grack debears.
It's just I have not written a case on the other two. This is scum kush right here. "My case is so right". Then picking 2 of the towniest players in the thread, and one that is considered town by about half the thread as the scumteam. Yeah right. Kush, there's a reason why no one has ever made a meta case on me. Because I play the same as either alignment. The fact that are building your case around your read and not your read around your case is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On September 15 2013 22:59 kushm4sta wrote:1) also his cases this game have been overly simplistic and directed towards very easy targets.His scumread list atm is OP - claimed survivor Me - afker everyone wants to kill with fire Zealos - classic lynch bait It's like he's going for the most obvious shit and not even trying to find scum. 2) In terms of meta, town debears is levelheaded and logical. Scum debears is much louder and more emotional. Recall his bitchfit with rayne for no reason.Another thing that scum debears loves to do is yell at people about how to play the game. This is scumdebears from NMXXIX: Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 00:49 debears wrote:On October 26 2012 00:46 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 26 2012 00:35 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:24 Djodref wrote:
@sylver
I don't care about who hasn't posted right now. I want to know what info you were expecting to get by asking your question. I was making that list because I wasn't even sure myself who/how many people hadn't spoken up. I was trying to stir something up and you can also consider it a kind of "roleclaim-lite" (I hardly expect anyone to claim they enjoy playing scum when I ask ingame, but i think it could have been interesting to see if some people said they like a particular pro-town power-role.) So, you admit you were rolefishing? Yes, I am trying to get people to talk about roles without doing something as ridiculous as asking for a D1 mass claim. Also I am trying to get to know the other players in general. No, No. No. No. No. Talking about roles is stupid. It gives the mafia stuff to go on when looking for nk candidates. DON'T DO IT. Here is this game (just one of the many times he has done something like this): Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 05:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Pandain
Oats plays solo as town. He never consolidates and picks his target. He ends up being the only one voting for a person a lot. I remember Titanic.
Kush you are seriously going to ask people to vote for you? Can I reveal who I think you are? Please don't give scum extra info unless 1) you are certain the info you reveal will make him look town 2) He is the leading candidate 3) if 2 is not the scenario, but it's close and time is running short already have disproved 1) and 2a) On September 16 2013 02:11 kushm4sta wrote:3) As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames.Here is another example: Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Stop wifoming over posting a role pm
Do post analysis over actual play This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game. ~~~~ 4) Regarding your emotionality,
in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis.5) You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical.
As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper.Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
So let me get this straight
Raynp wants me to explain my read on him right away
Raynp wants BH to post ever read he has right away
Raynp won't post actual analysis on kush's play
Raynp thought we should lynch oats (a replacement) over kush
Wow
Can
He
Be
This
Bad
As
Town ~~~~ You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still! ~~~~ 6) Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town. On September 16 2013 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
7) @ps also please show me where you were a dick to someone in a town game. I think acting like a dick is a huge scumtell for you. 1) Already show how I have simplistic reads that are very successful (especially lately) 2) Funny thing is, if you look at desert postgame. I was bitching at raynp there after I stopped here. It's non alignment indicative. I even said don't consider it as part of my filter I'm pretty sure. 3) is definitely misconstrusing my contributions this game. 1st, there is/was no reason to wifom about the WoS nk. It should be pretty clear that scum would not shoot him. Scum's goal is to get rid of the towniest players. WoS was not a "towniest" player. Also, if things like these were my only contributions, then you'd have something. You are cherrypicking 1 quote and ignoring the cases in my filter. 5) Repeating the points in 2 4 and 6) These points are both bullshit, and totally misrepresent my meta, because you should have read Mario mini's day 1 if you want to know my meta when I'm like this. I freak out over stupidity and bad cases on me. Yours is that. I did in in MM, and I'm doing it here, because I think you aren't that fucking bad as town to come up with such a horrible misrepresentative case. 7) Now he comes up with "oh debears is a dick as scum" after I purge his "emotional" tell. And you know what? He hasn't shown any quotes from my scum game of me being a pure dick. I'd love to see that. Kush claimed to have read my games, yet his failure to recognize the similar circumstances between this game and mario mini (day 1) are amazingly unacceptable. That means he didn't read my games. He skimmed and cherrypicked. no, scum kush is actually right.
You guys take this "bussing" read wayyyy to seriously
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On September 17 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 01:34 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 17 2013 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
My case was amazing and right. Completely different attitude as scum.
Show me debears insulting someone as town.
My reads right now are panda grack debears.
It's just I have not written a case on the other two. This is scum kush right here. "My case is so right". Then picking 2 of the towniest players in the thread, and one that is considered town by about half the thread as the scumteam. Yeah right. Kush, there's a reason why no one has ever made a meta case on me. Because I play the same as either alignment. The fact that are building your case around your read and not your read around your case is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On September 15 2013 22:59 kushm4sta wrote:1) also his cases this game have been overly simplistic and directed towards very easy targets.His scumread list atm is OP - claimed survivor Me - afker everyone wants to kill with fire Zealos - classic lynch bait It's like he's going for the most obvious shit and not even trying to find scum. 2) In terms of meta, town debears is levelheaded and logical. Scum debears is much louder and more emotional. Recall his bitchfit with rayne for no reason.Another thing that scum debears loves to do is yell at people about how to play the game. This is scumdebears from NMXXIX: Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 00:49 debears wrote:On October 26 2012 00:46 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 26 2012 00:35 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:24 Djodref wrote:
@sylver
I don't care about who hasn't posted right now. I want to know what info you were expecting to get by asking your question. I was making that list because I wasn't even sure myself who/how many people hadn't spoken up. I was trying to stir something up and you can also consider it a kind of "roleclaim-lite" (I hardly expect anyone to claim they enjoy playing scum when I ask ingame, but i think it could have been interesting to see if some people said they like a particular pro-town power-role.) So, you admit you were rolefishing? Yes, I am trying to get people to talk about roles without doing something as ridiculous as asking for a D1 mass claim. Also I am trying to get to know the other players in general. No, No. No. No. No. Talking about roles is stupid. It gives the mafia stuff to go on when looking for nk candidates. DON'T DO IT. Here is this game (just one of the many times he has done something like this): Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 05:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Pandain
Oats plays solo as town. He never consolidates and picks his target. He ends up being the only one voting for a person a lot. I remember Titanic.
Kush you are seriously going to ask people to vote for you? Can I reveal who I think you are? Please don't give scum extra info unless 1) you are certain the info you reveal will make him look town 2) He is the leading candidate 3) if 2 is not the scenario, but it's close and time is running short already have disproved 1) and 2a) On September 16 2013 02:11 kushm4sta wrote:3) As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames.Here is another example: Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Stop wifoming over posting a role pm
Do post analysis over actual play This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game. ~~~~ 4) Regarding your emotionality,
in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis.5) You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical.
As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper.Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
So let me get this straight
Raynp wants me to explain my read on him right away
Raynp wants BH to post ever read he has right away
Raynp won't post actual analysis on kush's play
Raynp thought we should lynch oats (a replacement) over kush
Wow
Can
He
Be
This
Bad
As
Town ~~~~ You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still! ~~~~ 6) Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town. On September 16 2013 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
7) @ps also please show me where you were a dick to someone in a town game. I think acting like a dick is a huge scumtell for you. 1) Already show how I have simplistic reads that are very successful (especially lately) 2) Funny thing is, if you look at desert postgame. I was bitching at raynp there after I stopped here. It's non alignment indicative. I even said don't consider it as part of my filter I'm pretty sure. 3) is definitely misconstrusing my contributions this game. 1st, there is/was no reason to wifom about the WoS nk. It should be pretty clear that scum would not shoot him. Scum's goal is to get rid of the towniest players. WoS was not a "towniest" player. Also, if things like these were my only contributions, then you'd have something. You are cherrypicking 1 quote and ignoring the cases in my filter. 5) Repeating the points in 2 4 and 6) These points are both bullshit, and totally misrepresent my meta, because you should have read Mario mini's day 1 if you want to know my meta when I'm like this. I freak out over stupidity and bad cases on me. Yours is that. I did in in MM, and I'm doing it here, because I think you aren't that fucking bad as town to come up with such a horrible misrepresentative case. 7) Now he comes up with "oh debears is a dick as scum" after I purge his "emotional" tell. And you know what? He hasn't shown any quotes from my scum game of me being a pure dick. I'd love to see that. Kush claimed to have read my games, yet his failure to recognize the similar circumstances between this game and mario mini (day 1) are amazingly unacceptable. That means he didn't read my games. He skimmed and cherrypicked. no, scum kush is actually right. You guys take this "bussing" read wayyyy to seriously
Like it's the same thing as saying "debears never busses his scumbuddies". It may be true. But, I know that it's true and I'm saving it so I can suddenly change it one game and solo win to vicory
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On September 17 2013 01:49 Old Partner wrote:
You know Rayn after this game I officially cede title of "most full of self" to you
beagh i can't even insult or spam well
my heart isn't in it any more
Draw us a sweet MS paint picture then
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On September 17 2013 01:53 Old Partner wrote:
incoming Zealos sn0_man Umasi kush scumteam
you're on the right track. There be 1 active skum though I think
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On September 17 2013 01:55 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:54 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 17 2013 01:53 Old Partner wrote:
incoming Zealos sn0_man Umasi kush scumteam you're on the right track. There be 1 active skum though I think Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
So rayn, why are you lynching OP and appear to not have any scumreads after posting that huge ego post? gasp!
If we are ever masons together I will cherish every moment of it
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On September 17 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/33krcqr.jpg)
That's copyright infringement
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Hmmm looks like we have to look back at the day 1 votes
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Ok. The day 1 vote tells us quite a bit at this point I believe
On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount:
strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf
WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta
Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow
kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos
Pandain(0): Grackaroni
Old Partner(4): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow
Koshi(0): blubbdavid
blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi, Pandain
Zealos(4): blubbdavid, strongandbig,Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain, Old Partner
raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig
blubbdavid has been lynched!
On September 15 2013 07:11 Pandain wrote:
##Vote Old Partner
bolded are confirmed/almost confirmed. Colored are slight/likely
One thing I would like to note about Pandain's vote. Pandain tried to vote zealos or blubb, essentially to save OP as admitted. But, notice how quickly he voted for OP the next day. First vote. Now, based on BH's actions this last day, the scum very likely planned the bus on BH after the last second vote swap. The best way to go about it from a mafia perspective is to bus, and bus hard.
The vote switch to zealos from blobb by Pandain would also make sense in that, if him and OP were on zealos's lynch, and zealos is town, then being grouped on a townie lynch would look really bad as a scumteam.
This brings me back to suspicion on Pandain.
VA's plopped vote on Blubb all day is looking much more suspicious, along with his recent lack of contributions.
OP's vote on zealos almost makes me think Zealos is town.
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On September 17 2013 08:06 kushm4sta wrote:
im dying to know why ps thikns grack is slight town, even though his move to zealos saved OP.
The thing is, you have to differentiate between all those votes
Pandain, Grack, and SnB all had questionable voteswitches close to deadline. I think Pandian is the most likely scum switch based on the switch and the instant vote on OP the next day.
VA, you, Koshi and Snow all had votes on a confirmed town to end out the day.
Within those 7 votes is the last 2/3 scum, depending on the whether BH's role pm flavor is actually indicative of the number of scum.
Based on play, Pandain is the most supspicious of the top 3. Grack is the least suspicious out of the top 3.
Based on play, VA is the most suspicious of the bottom 4.
If Pandain is scum, you are the least likely out of the bottom 4. Otherwise, I'd say Koshi is probably the least suspicious right now (despite yesterday's antics but I'll have to rethink this).
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On September 17 2013 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, your D2 posts consist of pushing me (confirmed town) and questioning BH (that's shit).
You are scum. EZPZ!
Rayne this is terrible thinking.
Why wouldn't kush oats and koshi be scum on me then for actually trying to start a wagon on me over BH then d2?
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On September 17 2013 08:57 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 08:41 kushm4sta wrote:
@ps so why is grack colored green if he is one of the 3 questionable vote changes...
read my post again. then read my read on grack this whole game
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Guys, please remember
The way BH was acting all day was in a given up attitude. He had no intention of actually trying to get out of getting lynched. It's very likely scum bussed him hard and immediately for some town cred.
Keep that in mind
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On September 18 2013 06:08 Umasi wrote:hm~night ends in about an hour or so, presumably the actions are locked I'm masoner, and for the d2 n2 cycle I masoned Pandain. I'm masoning (you'll find out who) d3 n3 cycle. Show nested quote +You are Ivan, a Jupiter adept, who meets Isaac in the city of Vault. Impressed by Isaac's help in relocating the Shaman Rod you decided to join him in his quest. As a Jupiter adept you have the gift of reading minds and communicating with them silently. Every night you can choose a player with whom you wish to enter into a private conversation by PM'ing the hosts: ##Mind Read: Playername. You will be able to communicate with the target player in a QT provided by the hosts for a full day/night-cycle. You win with the Protectors of Weyard, when all threats to Weyard have been eliminated. I'm afk for a while now.
I'm assuming you think Pandain is scum?
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On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount:
strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf
WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta
Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow
kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos
Pandain(0): Grackaroni
Old Partner(4): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow
Koshi(0): blubbdavid
blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi,Pandain
Zealos(4): blubbdavid, strongandbig, Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain, Old Partner
raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig
blubbdavid has been lynched!
Ok. So, now with 2 more flips, I feel like my reads are starting to fill out.
1) Upon second look at Pandain and raypne's filter, I'd put them at the same level of town read. Pandains vote swap was weird, but I'd say his play overall looks town plain and simple.
2) Umasi looks town from his vote on OP day 1. Also, due to the fact he is a mason. I have not seen anyone else claiming they are a mason. With only 1 mason in game, it's more likely than not that Umasi is a town mason. His d1 pick on Pandain seemed sensible. I still have to read the logs.
3) I've thought Grack has looked town pretty much all game. His veteran claim stuff was just kinda stupid, and it put a spotlight on him that he didn't really need on him.
That leaves the following:
Oats - I think he's town (he could possibly be SK, but least likely of everyone, and scum are our concern anyhow)/
Vayne
Sn0
Kush
Zealos
Order of lynch preference
kush - I think he's scum. His scumteam call n2 was me/grack/panda. I think grack and panda are town. A scumteam on three of the most active players (one of whom is confirmed town to me and the other two likely town)? Not to mention he hasn't given reasoning on grack and panda, and he keeps claiming I never refuted his case. Kush voted blubb d1. He tried to start a wagon on me over BH day 2.
Sn0/VA - I'll look at this one more closely as the day goes on
Zealos - The dude is most likely the SK. OP's vote on him would be weird is zealos is scum. That means that scum OP would want to bus his partner d1 when a townie (blubb) was right with them in votes. Bussing day1 is extremely unnecessary d1 unless there's a major scumslip/scumcatch. Zealos wasn't considered that. Thus, I would think scum would put zealos and blubb up there as the main lynches, thinking they were both town.
Due to the fact that zealos hasn't given a shit all game, he looks sk. I don't want to lynch a sk read over scum right at this moment
I can't believe I keep posting this crap in the voting thread....megafails
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On September 18 2013 08:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow im sorry me for doubting myself for a second there!
debers is sk
grack and panda are scummrs
On September 18 2013 08:32 kushm4sta wrote:
i have plenty of reasoning for grack and panda they just haven't been compiled in a formal case yet.
grack is confirmed town??? no just no.
scummy as fuck that im your biggest scumread. Especially since you know my scumgame quite well. You were on a scumteam with me as your first game.
Remember that? flawless victory. good times. now we are on separate teams though so you must die.
So I'm SK and scum? Interesting. you seem to be forgetting what your read is on me.
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##Vote Kush
forget this bit
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@Panda, Grack, Raynp, Oats
This was from an earlier post of mine. I'm not sure if you saw it. Take a look.
Zealos - The dude is most likely the SK. OP's vote on him would be weird is zealos is scum. That means that scum OP would want to bus his partner d1 when a townie (blubb) was right with them in votes. Bussing day1 is extremely unnecessary d1 unless there's a major scumslip/scumcatch. Zealos wasn't considered that. Thus, I would think scum would put zealos and blubb up there as the main lynches, thinking they were both town.
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ebwop
if you agree with this, we should go for scum (kush)
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@Panda, Grack, Raynp, (sorry oats you think zealos is town so this doesn't apply to you)
In reference to the above post of mine on zealos, in the case that you agree with my zealos read
Do we want to
1) Lynch a scum with disruptive thread presence (Kush)
or 2) Lynch a sk/possible scum with no thread presence in a possible attempt to reduce kp if he is sk (zealos)
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