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On September 19 2013 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Pandain is pushing town. Rayn and others are pushing town.
Whats going on Rayn? Why not kill VA? Because there is a bigger chance of Grackaroni being scum. Do you usually give town reads to people because they are your scumread and defend your scumread? Then you go on and vote with them on a case that's pushed by another scumread of yours? And your reasoning for all that is "nobody was defending the original wagon"....
town do do that.
Also scum fakeclaims vet for what reason exactly?
To draw out the real vet?
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On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats What 4th wagon? Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP. Why arent you voting for OP? Second read is Blubb.
debears scum.
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Are you ok with lynching debears today Rayn?
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Actually, I read Grack's claim and stuff following that again. Man. Its like right on the edge of too dickish to be scum.
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On September 19 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 02:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Are you ok with lynching debears today Rayn? Why the fuck would i be okay with lynching debears? If you can make a decent case i could consider it. Now there are just some quotes from his filter and then people say "lol, scum".
Whats with the strong green read then you want to be convinced?
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Well first, you imply that you think debears is strongly town.
Then you say that you can be swayed. Why?
Why would a case on debears make you change your mind?
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fake claimed for no reason , and then un fake claimed for no reason .
This is it right here. Thats why I think hes scum.
Also his randomass unvote of OP on day 1 without saying other than 'this feels bad'
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Why the fuck would i be okay with lynching debears?
Explain this then rayn?
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On September 19 2013 02:38 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 19 2013 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well first, you imply that you think debears is strongly town.
Then you say that you can be swayed. Why?
Why would a case on debears make you change your mind? I have not implied i think he is strongly town for me. I think he is SK to be honest. But i do not think he is scum. Didn't I prove we should be lynching SK today?
Actually sn0, explain the difference between SK and scum please.
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On September 19 2013 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lynching SK effectively halves the anti-town KP since town is far enough ahead this game (due to 15 player 3 scum setup) that SK will be hitting town as much as possible.
Alternatively, we are at 7-1-2
Lynch Scum, 2NKs on town: 5-1-1 MYLO since a mislynch leads to 2-1-1 town can't win
Lynch SK, Only 1 NK on town: 6-0-2 not mylo since a mislynch leads to 4-0-2.
Objectively better for town to lynch SK over scum. Also was hoping that scum might know who the SK is so we can lynch SK happily in harmony.
not that. How you find the SK as opposed to scum.
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On September 19 2013 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Why the fuck would i be okay with lynching debears? Explain this then rayn? Thinking debears is not in my top 2 candidates for scum != strong town read..
So 'why the fuck would I be ok lynching X person' will be applicable to anyone other than top 2 candidates for scum? Uh ok.
No, I dont believe this.
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On September 19 2013 02:44 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote: fake claimed for no reason , and then un fake claimed for no reason . This is it right here. Thats why I think hes scum. Also his randomass unvote of OP on day 1 without saying other than 'this feels bad' Please reflect on the matter. Give me an honest justification for that fakeclaim/anti fake claim? Distract the thread? Really he would put that much suspicion on himself to try and shit up the thread?
Lol what suspicion did he get put under? Absolutely nothing.
The fakeclaim was to out the vet IMO, then he unfakeclaims and apologizes.
The thing that makes me think he's town is that in his unfakeclaiming post, he posted that he doesnt want to be thought of confirmed town for the claim. Which is an odd mindset for scum.
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On September 19 2013 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Zealos *cannot* be scum lol. If we are 100% that he is antitown then I agree he is the best lynch because that makes him SK.
@Oats how the hell would I know. I've only played with 1 SK before and town got raped because of it (also bastard setup imo but thats neither here nor there). Actually, as far as I'm concerned SKs are practically universally bastard but w/e.
I think you misunderstand my question.
How do you know we arent lynching bad town as opposed to SK? Like, nobody plays SK the same, so its not like you can use meta or normal scumtells and shit.
So how do you find this SK?
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On September 19 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 19 2013 02:44 Pandain wrote:On September 19 2013 02:37 Oatsmaster wrote: fake claimed for no reason , and then un fake claimed for no reason . This is it right here. Thats why I think hes scum. Also his randomass unvote of OP on day 1 without saying other than 'this feels bad' Please reflect on the matter. Give me an honest justification for that fakeclaim/anti fake claim? Distract the thread? Really he would put that much suspicion on himself to try and shit up the thread? Lol what suspicion did he get put under? Absolutely nothing. The fakeclaim was to out the vet IMO, then he unfakeclaims and apologizes. The thing that makes me think he's town is that in his unfakeclaiming post, he posted that he doesnt want to be thought of confirmed town for the claim. Which is an odd mindset for scum. He didn't get put any under suspicion because I correctly identified that it is too risky and too bold for a mafia to try and fake claim a vet in order to, as you say, out another vet. A vet is such a small part of the game, only one person versus ~3 other blues and however other many town members. You really think his goal was to out a vet? What if a vet did claim? Then shit, total suspicion on Grack. We would have had a totally different game, and probably would have lynched Grack.
Then Grack apologetically unfakeclaims. You dont see the play here?
He knows his plan is to fakeclaim vet, then fakeclaim VT.
Low risk IMO and possible we think that hes town for doing some retarded shit.
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On September 19 2013 02:54 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 19 2013 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Zealos *cannot* be scum lol. If we are 100% that he is antitown then I agree he is the best lynch because that makes him SK.
@Oats how the hell would I know. I've only played with 1 SK before and town got raped because of it (also bastard setup imo but thats neither here nor there). Actually, as far as I'm concerned SKs are practically universally bastard but w/e. I think you misunderstand my question. How do you know we arent lynching bad town as opposed to SK? Like, nobody plays SK the same, so its not like you can use meta or normal scumtells and shit. So how do you find this SK? Thats why i don't want to lynch zealos. I just said, I don't know how to isolate the SK. I was hoping others did. Since he is the best lynch.
This is incredibly scummy man.
'hey guys kill SK, oh wait i have no clue who he is or how to find him. Welp.'
Lets not scumhunt either.
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Because you guys would have bandwagoned(although I would have protested again, knowing how idiotic it was) against Grack for a false fake claim which he would have only un-fakeclaimed after being shown wrong. You guys would have thought he was making stuff up and trying to gain blue status.
Im sorry, What?
What? So scum know that 1 kp was blocked in some way and decided to claim vet and keep that claim throughout the game.
Does this make sense to you? It doesnt make sense to me. Also people like you defend him. So its not High risk.
Zealos could be SK, would rather kill scum cause red flips are cool.
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On September 19 2013 03:21 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw we should not in any way vote Vayne today
why?
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I dont want to kill zealos. Look at his first 5 useless posts. That makes him town alone man.
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Rayn is 100% scum, now Im confident.
Kush, agree?
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On September 19 2013 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn is 100% scum, now Im confident.
Kush, agree? Fuck you Oats. If i was scum nobody, absolutely nobody in my scumteam claims scum on N1, especially the Godfather with such bullshitting abilities BH has.
oh im sorry I insulted your scum abilities.
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