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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 05 2013 20:53 GMT
#412
As to my top lynch candidate right now, I think I'd want to go for Chairman Ray:

His early posts are reasonable, but he seems to be carefully avoiding taking sides and never really calls anyone scum (besides a 0-poster...) before jumping on Lord Velocity for that ridiculous edit mishap. I can easily see scum motivation for wanting not to implicate anyone until an easy target shows up to jump on.

I could also consider Infii, but his "big post" does bring up some decent points that would have to be considered.

##Vote: Chairman Ray
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 06 2013 12:30 GMT
#521
On September 06 2013 07:23 Blurry wrote:
I think its clear that at least one of the people voting, and probably 2 or 3, for chairman ray are Scum.

I think going into the next day all of our attention should be on these people. Its so unlikely that a Mafia would avoid jumping on this bandwagon especially when the vote count was so close.


I'll agree that there probably was at least one scum on the wagon, however I find it extremely unlikely that the whole scum team would've been on it, unless the other lynch option was scum they wanted to save.

Looking at the voting pattern, the only way that would make sense would be if myRZeth is scum. And given the way he plays I'd expect scum to bus him, not to take risks trying to save him. Taken out of context I'd want to lynch him for his unannounced, unexplained vote change, but considering the bigger picture, I'm uncertain.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 07 2013 08:57 GMT
#553
PSA: Please quote when you reply to someone, it makes filters so much easier to read.

I think there probably was one scum on Chairman Ray wagon. I also think HolyFlare isn't scum, so obviously my suspicions are on: Umasi, killerdog and myRZeth.

myRZeth's unexplained vote switch makes him look really suspect, but then again, it's hard to believe the other scum wouldn't be screaming at him to play better... It's of course possible he's just ignoring advice, too. I hoped he'd be vigged so we wouldn't have to decide what to do with him.

Umasi's early game looked okay, but his reads have been jumping around pretty wildly, I'm not familiar enough with his style to know if that's just paranoid town or scum looking for targets.

killerdog is to me the least scummy of this bunch, he's been mostly making posts with reasonable content and sound logic.

On September 07 2013 07:30 Lord Velocity wrote:
So I am now certain Bereft isn't town because after I pressure him on his whole relations with Blurry, and why he agrees with his thoughts and does what he does basically, but then he says something about me already being suspicious of them being a duo, and tries to jump on me to get me eliminated and provides what he thinks are supporting facts on why I'm "mafia" But Blurry dies, which leads me to believe that either mafia killed him to frame Bereft in my eyes, or Bereft indeed got rid of Blurry so that no further suspicions would arise from the whole situation proposed by me earlier in night 1. Can I get some thoughts on the situation? Or just thoughts on why Blurry would die and who he was pointing at, or if you guys think he was just a kill, and nothing special.

(Sorry if it's a little WIFON"


Speculating on NK reasons is pure WIFOM. It can be useful if you have other information to complement it, but in itself it's very unsafe to use.

Why exactly, besides the NK, do you see Bereft as scum? I read through his filter and it comes pretty null to me, not the towniest player by any means but doesn't scream scum either. The interaction between him and Blurry was a little weird, but agreeing with someone isn't necessarily scummy as such.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 07 2013 09:02 GMT
#555
On September 07 2013 17:58 myRZeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
Not to mention there are 3 scum, not just you.



you re pretty aggressive


And you're pretty useless. Or pretty anti-town really. Start posting something useful right now, please.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 08 2013 16:01 GMT
#679
Anyone around to discuss who we want to lynch today?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 08 2013 16:16 GMT
#682
You prefer lynching a scum read over lynching myRZeth I assume?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 08 2013 21:21 GMT
#764
On September 07 2013 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
Also, after lone's last post I think I should take him off the list, totally agree with his targets.


On September 09 2013 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
##Vote: Lonemeow unless someone has a better idea, not going to vote myrzeth, lonemeow has not really much content at all apart from his last post (I know he's injured etc) which was still pretty lacking in content and just a reason to vote other people on the ray wagon. He came back after infii and me had discussions and I posted information but didn't respond to any of it apart from:

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 01:01 LoneMeow wrote:
Anyone around to discuss who we want to lynch today?


and

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 01:16 LoneMeow wrote:
You prefer lynching a scum read over lynching myRZeth I assume?



What happened between these that made your read do a full 180? Is that only based on me not responding to your discussion with Infii or did I miss something? You've been my best town read the whole game but now I'm wondering if I might be badly mistaken.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 08 2013 21:27 GMT
#770
If Koshi and Infii are scum together, who's the third one? I don't have a scenario that works for that case.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 08 2013 21:49 GMT
#792
On September 09 2013 06:36 Umasi wrote:
I'll go bonkers if we lynch killerdog, and I'm obv town.
##UNVOTE
##LONEMEOW
At this point, my doubts about you aren't gone infii, but I think it's pretty obvious Lonemeow has been playing a different game than the rest of us for a while now.


Jumping on a "save myRZeth" mislynch wagon again? I had my doubts about you after the Chairman Ray lynch but this seals the deal.

##Vote: Umasi
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 08 2013 21:54 GMT
#811
On September 09 2013 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
oh my god, you're actually lynching umasi with no case posts at all? Do you want to make this game that easy for lynching you?


I can consider consolidating. What do you think of Umasi?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 06:35 GMT
#995
Okay, let's see:

I was really demotivated after seeing I rolled scum, simply don't like it.

Typing at something like 5 WPM instead of the usual 70+ demotivated me to the point of not posting unless I really had to.

I really wanted to lynch myRZeth just to ensure no one ever thinks playing like that is an option in TL mafias, but my alignment kind of forced my hand there...
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 07:28 GMT
#1002
On September 09 2013 16:24 Koshi wrote:
Will be funny if in the next newbie a scum fake claims RB :D


I already wanted to fake claim RB in this one when we were thinking of RBing and NKing the same person (so there would be no second claim since he'd be dead).
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 08:17 GMT
#1030
I'm afraid I'll just be useless and get mislynched right away in a normal game so I think I'll obs for a while first.

I didn't get to use the coaches anywhere as much as I should have in my newbies, I really should have asked for more coaching in the first game. 2 scum games out of 4 newbies sucked given how much I dislike playing scum.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 08:18 GMT
#1031
Also, I actually tried to vote Koshi at the last moment but my internet was being very wonky in the last 30 minutes before the lynch so that didn't happen.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 10:03 GMT
#1035
On September 09 2013 18:34 ShiaoPi wrote:
Game ends here because I derp hard. however if the town doc would have gotten the save through, this game might have easily shifted into town's favor. The lynch on Koshi was very revealing as scum did their best to save Umasi.


I was thinking I'd likely be alone vs town had the game continued given the voting pattern.

I kind of wanted to "consolidate" onto Koshi as I think I might've gotten away with that easier than heavenz/Umasi but my internet was being crappy and they managed to switch first.

I was also very scared of someone noticing my horrible lack of read on heavenz, but luckily town was distracted enough to miss that.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 10:12 GMT
#1039
Oh also, interesting that observers think Blurry was obvious NK, especially after Holyflare calling it horrible NK during the game.

My reasoning for the kill was that he was super town and had a town circlejerk going with Bereft, that made them very dangerous as it seemed they'd likely vote together later on. Didn't even check what his reads were back then. (Just so you know how WIFOM it was to think he was killed for having fingered the scum team.)
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 09 2013 10:21 GMT
#1040
On September 09 2013 19:08 Koshi wrote:
I think that in future newbie games people should be encouraged to post at least 15 times on Day 1. Even 15 1 liners is going to help newbie games become more enjoyable. I have replaced in this game and the previous newbie game and both had serious problems with activity on Day 1.

Maybe it is a bit unfair for the newbie scummers, or maybe it will be in their favor because town will start to eat each other.


PS: I know this is a stupid extra rule, but it might help activity on Day 1.


To be honest, 15 posts may be a bit much, especially if you have bad timezone and can't have an active discussion. It would help if lurkers would actually get lynched but in my newbies I can't remember having lynched any actual lurkers on D1. (Well, we did a horribad mislynch on a 0-poster but that doesn't count as lurking IMHO.) It might help convince people they need to talk if not talking would lead to repercussions.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 10 2013 04:59 GMT
#1070
On September 10 2013 12:26 Mocsta wrote:
Cases are not for convincing your target they are scum.


Just wanted to emphasize this. Prolonged arguments with the one you're targeting are not useful.
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