• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:26
CET 22:26
KST 06:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review RSL S3 ro16 [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Finding world war 2 allied hope / final players?
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1145 users

Persona 4 Mini Mafia - Page 8

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 13 Next All
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 18:27 GMT
#1660
well TL.net trims out extra spaces apparently.

Isn't it obvious that at least rayn is scum out of this?

Er, actually rayn could be a town miller not self aware and Koshi could be scum didn't think of that. Seems unlikely.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 18:28 GMT
#1661
Iunno, some people somehow need convincing that you are scum rayn.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 18:37 GMT
#1667
On August 24 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
Iunno, some people somehow need convincing that you are scum rayn.

And you weill probably get lynched when i flip town.

That does seem like what would happen in the very strange situation where you flip town. It was also what would happen in the equally strange situation that WoS flipped scum, although I probably wouldn't have minded since saccing me for a scum lynch is OK by me.

TBH if you flip town then I think the game is on you so I'll be mad but I won't be mad at myself too much. I guess sometimes scum win by doing literally nothing at all (Hence the issue with vayne's theory of town play. Honestly I'm not calling him scum I'm saying what he does favours scum so much I have to get him active or else scum win by default so I pressure him).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 18:38 GMT
#1671
What the hell is the point of blue roles existing if the entire thread is in a hurry to utterly ignore the results of them?

Just because its *possible* that rayn got framed or w/e doesn't mean its even remotely likely. HE. IS. SCUM.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 19:11 GMT
#1684
The game I replaced into I was trying to get anybody but my last remaining (and incidentally incredibly scummy and mostly AFK) scumbuddy lynched lol. The game was already solved when I subbed in, but I did what I could. Absolutely no relation to this game. If you think that I was doing what I could to save WoS, you are right but in this case it was for a "townbuddy" if you will.

PS hows rayn allowed to make association cases re yamato atm?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 19:22 GMT
#1691
?
I answer accusations made against me. Please excuse me for that.

Meanwhile rayn is admitting that he does exactly what he is doing this game as scum...
On August 24 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No it's not. I do that as mafia all the time

Regarding "being certain people are scum"

Iunno, nobody but me even reads rayn remotely critically despite the events of the last 2 days and WoS's mislynch.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 20:20 GMT
#1706
I tried that. A lot. Then I got flamed for doing it. Theres literally only 4 ppl reading right now anyway. If the others catch up they will read the arguments 4 pages back no need to reiterate them I don't think. Its not like you guys have provided any reasons to lynch yamato other than "He hasn't sounded sincere" so far so I'm hoping the rest of the people read the thread objectively.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 02:42 GMT
#2139
Well, 48 hour AFK over. I haven't really read about 20 pages of thread (since about page 85) but I did see the night kills (and a really really retarded fake claim from rayn).

Lets lynch rayn. Onegu would be somebody I could lynch if rayn didn't exist. Apparently there was a huge yamato wagon for a while based on the most recent votecount?. Meanwhile...

##Vote: raynpelikoneet
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 15:26 GMT
#2229
I smell a slow night.

I'm curious as to how Kush has acquired such a free ride as well? I mean, it is a bit hard to establish a read on him since it is hard to know what he is thinking, but he has pages and pages of 1-liner posts that mostly suggest fairly random scum-teams and a lot of "Iunno who is scum I'm just guessing here guys".

Admittedly, he had that series of posts with his suggested scumteam (crazo/yamato/fuba/onegu) and was even right on crazo. And there were actual argument posts with quotes and stuff. However, he was dead wrong on onegu, presumably wrong on fuba (unless we doubt this vig claim) and is also known to bus. A lot.

I'd like to hear some other people's thoughts on him because I'm not getting the impression he cares much.

Also vayne is finally playing, that is helpful. Tofu really isn't, we could lynch him shortly after rayn. Koshi is at least pretending to have original thoughts so I'm still not too interested in passing judgement on him until rayn has flipped. Rainbows not impressing, although he is hardly the only person to be espousing scum teams that included Onegu/Fuba both now confirmed town. I agree with a LOT of what yamato has said but he still hasn't managed to make and push scumreads which is a bad sign.

Pretty sure thats everybody relevant. Rayn still scum, nothing has changed. That fake-claim... yeah.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 15:34 GMT
#2232
I really didn't ask for thoughts on me. I asked for reads on kush.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 15:47 GMT
#2235
Kush is town because... ? you two said so? I mean, I'm assuming you have reasons somewhere.

I've essentially never played with Kush (he got modkilled out d1 on a smurf in my first newbie, does that count? lol), but I'm aware that he has a reputation. I just find his transition from "I have no idea who scum is maybe this person olololol" to "these exact 4 people r scum" (when he is currently at 1/3, yamato still unknown) hard to understand. That doesn't make it scummy, but it does make me question why nobody whatsoever (outside of crazy) has bothered to pressure him at all.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 16:01 GMT
#2238
Vayne is making posts, an important improvement.

Said posts also contain more than "Anybody who mentions me negatively is scum". Another important improvement. Vayne has ventured into such new territory as reasoning and discussing players. Plus his insights line up with reality.

You on the other hand are still content to simply outpost anybody who may disagree with you despite you having yet to be correct about anything I can find. You make fake claims solely for the purpose of shitting up the thread and are 10 pages farther along STILL arguing with people about the exact nature of your claim when you couldn't keep the story straight while making it in the first place. It is obvious to anybody who can read that your actions simply aren't town motivated and are designed to engender an atmosphere where town cannot properly function. Why nobody else is seriously pursuing your lynch is far beyond me. WoS literally didn't claim cop because he decided that me being alive and pursing you, after it was proven that you pushed his MISlynch, was more valuable to town than him being alive for 24 hours and dying that night cycle.

PS:You still haven't given any reason for your read on kush.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 16:09 GMT
#2242
I was out of town for 48 hours from before the beginning of D2 until when I placed my vote. I literally couldn't place it earlier. And you have your order of events wrong I was afk forever THEN placed my vote.

I spent the night cycle pushing you as I could, and made my stance abundantly clear, then I left because I had to.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 16:11 GMT
#2243
On August 27 2013 01:02 kushm4sta wrote:
@SNO funny how you said I was right about crazy...cause he had already flipped lol

Oh. Well, I wasn't here that part of the game >_>.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 16:20 GMT
#2245
On August 27 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what do you agree with yamato on?
And why are you hesitant to give your opinion on Koshi?

I agree with yamato that you are playing like a retard and/or completely anti-town with all the crap you are doing to the thread. That you fucked up your fake claim and are misinterpreting literally everything anybody says in the thread. Plus a variety of one-off posts regarding short-lived topics of discussion like scum interactions with crazo in the thread.
I won't bother discussing Koshi because as previously mentioned he cannot reasonably be scum without you also being scum (due to the red-check logic). So lynch you for certain and go from there.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 16:58 GMT
#2247
On August 27 2013 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Also it's funny that you call out MY fake claim, which was far less harmful to the town but WoS "claim" on N0 was brilliant and it outed me as mafia. rofl, i am town and the dude got lynched for it.

Can you try to make sense for long enough to make 1 post? would be great. What on earth are you trying to say here?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 17:31 GMT
#2249
Wat?

WoS played questionably but was pretty obviously town just from his approach to the game. Then you got him lynched by tunnelling him for 72 hours. Nice job on that one.

Completely unrelated to your ridiculous cop claim that shat up the thread for ages and continues to be used in strange arguments to try and make others look bad. More mission accomplished for you.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 18:00 GMT
#2253
On August 27 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay sno, as you seem to be here let's take another approach, both yelling each other "you are scum" doesn't lead anywhere:

1) Where do you think vayne is making sense nore than he did in N0-N1? Can you point out the exact posts and tell me why are they better than his posting in in N0-N1?

2) You said you agree with yamato a lot. Can you show me some posts of yours where you point out yamato's good contributions.

3) Can you tell me what your read on Koshi is and why.


1)
On August 25 2013 06:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
scum suspects for me right is narrowed down to from strongest to least

onegu
yamato
rainbows
johnnywup (geript randomly suspicious of crazo for absolutely garbage tier reasons, johnny replaces in and he is suspicious of crazo for absolutely terrible reasons as well. bus anyone?)
rayn (just because of the check really, I thought you were playing a town game)

Literally just posting a few reads is serious improvement from N0/D1
2) I never pointed out good contributions I agreed with his comments. There is a difference.
On August 23 2013 02:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
NVM I lied yamato is doing stuff and I agree with practically everything he is saying o.O

I'm happy with a Vayne/FT lynch though current preference is FT.

Also still want to lynch Koshi but nobody else really does. Also I want to lynch rayn but I think that's because he is annoying. hard to tell.

3) Hasn't changed since D1 voting. I haven't bothered even trying to read Koshi since as I have repeated a lot there is no reason to go after koshi since for him to be scum you must also be scum. Which means even if he was cop-checked red I'd be just as happy to lynch you first. As I mentioned, it *does* look like his posting has reached the point where he may have at least one original thought in his head, but I'm not sold on that.

PS:
On August 27 2013 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also what do you mean by this:
Show nested quote +
Plus a variety of one-off posts regarding short-lived topics of discussion like scum interactions with crazo in the thread.

?

I mean I also agree with him on a variety of more random posts that don't say "X" is scum, but do prove that he is at least thinking about the thread critically (more than I can say for a lot of people). Posts like the one I was using for an example:
On August 25 2013 12:04 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:02 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 25 2013 12:00 yamato77 wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:59 kushm4sta wrote:
who are you picks for scum, yamato?
vayne?? because there are a bunch of reasons why he is probably town

FT, perhaps Fuba still could be SK.

I honestly haven't had time to think more about other players because Rayn fucks around with this dumbass claim for 2 hours and now I have to go to work.


-FT is close to 0 percent chance of being scum due to his interactions with crazo.
-I didn't ask for random sk speculation, which you seem quite content to stick to atm

lol, your association tells mean nothing, Suddenly scum don't interact with scum inthe thread anymore? Did you read GoT?

Essentially, I agree with yamato that crazo and FT's in-thread interactions in no way prove that FT can't be scum.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 18:38 GMT
#2255
On August 27 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2) Scum can make good comments too. So you do think yamato is town, for his comments? What about his contributions, that's the part you should be focused on. Are they good or bad? What do you think of them?

On August 27 2013 00:26 Sn0_Man wrote:I agree with a LOT of what yamato has said but he still hasn't managed to make and push scumreads which is a bad sign.

This post, wherein I obviously was worried about his contributions, was responded to with "Sn0 100% scum" by you. Then you feel the need to ask me a question that I had just answered.

Its okay I really don't expect anything from you. You are scum and your goal is to prevent the thread from functioning in a manner that could catch scum. I get that. The sad part is that you asked us to lynch you when WoS flipped town and the rest of town was too dumb to agree
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 26 2013 19:07 GMT
#2258
I don't have a read on kush and I have no clue how I'm gonna get a read on kush, because I just don't understand his play. So I'm asking if anybody else has had more success and maybe some reasons why.

I told you my next lynch after you is tofu atm.

Asking you questions is the last thing I want to do. I just want you to shut up so that the thread can be productive. You have 23 pages of filter or some shit. I'm not worried about not being able to find your scum buddies based on association cases that wont fly until you are dead, I'm worried about getting you lynched which seems impossible since 2/3 of the thread believes that the spammiest poster is somehow insta-town.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 1
SteadfastSC406
IndyStarCraft 245
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 406
IndyStarCraft 245
White-Ra 241
UpATreeSC 98
JuggernautJason65
Railgan 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 669
NaDa 29
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps946
Foxcn154
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken18
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu483
Other Games
Grubby2321
Beastyqt897
FrodaN531
Mlord469
mouzStarbuck297
Pyrionflax197
Fuzer 175
ArmadaUGS104
C9.Mang094
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL217
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 44
• Adnapsc2 15
• Dystopia_ 1
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 43
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2528
• Ler75
League of Legends
• TFBlade1532
Other Games
• imaqtpie1223
• Scarra335
• WagamamaTV278
• Shiphtur79
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
3h 35m
Replay Cast
11h 35m
WardiTV Korean Royale
14h 35m
LAN Event
17h 35m
OSC
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 12h
LAN Event
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.