However, I'm not deflecting the lynch off of anybody (Unless you can point to somebody who you think is getting lynched with 2 votes on them), and you haven't even made a case on me. You solely voted for me because I called you out. And you freely admit that. W. T. F.
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However, I'm not deflecting the lynch off of anybody (Unless you can point to somebody who you think is getting lynched with 2 votes on them), and you haven't even made a case on me. You solely voted for me because I called you out. And you freely admit that. W. T. F. | ||
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B) have you read his shit? "Anybody who wants to lynch me is scum", without even trying to look town. I'd lynch that anyday. I'm curious to know if you have any opinion on him after reading everything he just said, and after reading his really really short filter. | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:13 VayneAuthority wrote: If you can find a decent reason why you would post this Then right after you posted that, you go and post this and find yourself back at this I don't see what you hope to gain out of this as town. You know what's going to happen, I'm going to be annoyed at you, and you KNOWINGLY pursue that to fuck with town. Show me in any way how this is pro town and hell, ill vote for myself LOL Wat? Post 1: 3 people aren't contributing, and I think they should contribute. PS one of them posted a really bad post. Post 2: further research shows that one of them IS contributing. List narrowed to 2. Including bad-post-man, although other man looks worse after filter review. PS I still don't like persons X and Y, if anybody is curious in my scumreads. Post 3: Looky bad-post-man showed up, and decided that posting townie stuff is for noobs he should play as scummily as possible. Its pretty simple. Apparently nobody agrees that an attitude of "Anybody who suspects me is obv scum" is kinda NOT HELPING AT ALL. Iunno. | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:15 Oatsmaster wrote: 'Without even trying to look town'. Um have you seen scum play like that? Yes. Boardwalk Empire. I've seen town do it too, but none of them take the attitude that "I know i'm not acting townie but anybody who suspects me is obv scum". | ||
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Admittedly he was a lot more cavalier about it. VA seems to have essentially forgotten that you can't just decide that everybody believes you are town, you need to do something to demonstrate it. @rayn hows yamato worse than VA in terms of contribution? At least yamato makes some decent points here and there. And Tofu's pretty much just as bad. Either way, I'd still like tofu to post but I'm much more suspicious of VA now so... ##Unvote ##Vote: VayneAuthority I still don't get how people can possibly see what VA is doing as somehow townie, although at least he is finally posting. You will note that he still has yet to seriously scumhunt. | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:55 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah thats BM. Vayne isnt BM. VA is being an asshole but that doesnt translate into him being scum. His behavior doesnt help town, all it does is it draws everyone's attention to him for no reason. Which isnt scummy. Wait. VA is being an asshole and not helping town but that isn't scummy? I don't really approve of that sentiment. On August 23 2013 04:00 Koshi wrote: Mr. Evil Snowman. Can you read Vayne his filter from Titanic and comment on the difference? Vayne & Mr. Evil Snowman: Did you 2 play already together before? To my knowledge, we have not played together before. Reading that filter he played scummy as town in Titanic. Maybe that makes him less likely to be scum but I'm not sure how it excuses awful play this game... If we aren't lynching him then I guess we aren't lynching him but this is like "free win every time you roll scum" if everybody just assumes that vayne won't ever contribute for a huge portion of the game. Also, You missed my vote change in ur votecount mr cohost | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:48 Sn0_Man wrote: @Oats: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&user=Bill Murray Admittedly he was a lot more cavalier about it. VA seems to have essentially forgotten that you can't just decide that everybody believes you are town, you need to do something to demonstrate it. @rayn hows yamato worse than VA in terms of contribution? At least yamato makes some decent points here and there. And Tofu's pretty much just as bad. Either way, I'd still like tofu to post but I'm much more suspicious of VA now so... ##Unvote ##Vote: VayneAuthority I still don't get how people can possibly see what VA is doing as somehow townie, although at least he is finally posting. You will note that he still has yet to seriously scumhunt. | ||
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What I don't see is how scum could possibly benefit from that plan (actually, hiding the fact that they have a roleblock is probably a better reason not to RB, and that seems much worse than just the chance to hit a cop/medic). Either way, thats like the absolute least convincing case ever lol. PS: I've never told people that they are actively harming the thread by calling me scum. And Vayne had a public "null" read on me before I started mentioning him. The people I went after, as I said, were the quiet people who had no excuse for not contributing and could super easily have been hiding mafia. | ||
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On August 23 2013 04:34 kushm4sta wrote: you think scum didn't roleblock someone on purpose just so sno could say "no roleblockers lol?' why would scum do that Well, it could be so that sn0 says something like "Scum have no RB's? that means they have either a GF or a Framer so don't necessarily swallow cop checks whole" when really they don't have either and are deathly afraid of cop checks. Pretty unlikely yes. | ||
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On August 23 2013 04:40 FirmTofu wrote: Sn0, I'm curious as to why you aren't voting me right now. Do you still think Vayne is scummier than me? You know, I wrote up a long post about how much I hate people who just vote everywhere like their vote doesn't matter. I really like being considered with my vote and making sure it has meaning even when placed early in a day. However, you are practically begging me to vote you here. #YOLO ##Unvote ##Vote: FirmTofu | ||
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I added ur EBWOP in. I'm attacking rayn because I didn't like how he was playing and I didn't agree with the conclusions he was drawing, so I was making sure the rest of the thread saw another side to his "arguments". The fact that I'm discrediting him when he wasn't attacking me much is actually a decent sign that I'm not scum. If I was scum I couldn't care less what garbage he was spewing so long as he didn't attack me. The fact that he had thrown shit on or outright accused at LEAST 6 players by then would totally play into my hands if I were scum... Thus, at the bottom of my post I say that rayn is essentially playing this in a way that doesn't benefit town. The unspoken implication being he is scum/3p. Which I still believe although I'll admit that I do have experiences with townies who play completely contrary to me and we fight each other's arguments incessantly. | ||
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Incidentally, There is virtually NO chance a scum player as the current most likely lynch target would spew his scumbuddies like that in an attempt to improve their situation later, so free townie points for those 3. I think. PS: geript is currently the recipient of a free ride I'm not sure he deserves. Geript is traditionally more active and aggressive in games i've played with him. | ||
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On August 23 2013 05:12 WaveofShadow wrote: I can agree with this. Sn0 can you comment on the below for me? I'm bad at reading geript. He's played differently in all 3 (I think) games I've played with him. Plus we really really didn't get along as both town one game. Yes you have a point he kinda looks like he is sucking up to you there. No I don't feel like that is a serious point against him. I merely think that he shouldn't be getting this free ride and it is very much not like the common theme of my games with him: Active and loud. | ||
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I fail to see how everybody thinks that its OK for VA/FT to play terribly and excuse that as "Their town meta is to play awfully, when they are scum they play well". WTF IS THAT? We never lynch them when they look scummy only the other way around? Get out. I'd also be happy to lynch rayn because AS I"VE SAID BEFORE he is trying to spam his way into control of the thread, in large part by shouting down anybody who disagrees with him. It just isn't town-motivated to do that. Doesn't help that Koshi is literally parroting everything rayn says and they literally back each other up on every tiny thing. | ||
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I've said before, I've had games as town where I have utterly irreconcilable differences with another townie and this could be a case of that but if they are both town then I don't even know what to say. Iunno, nothing about that pair makes much sense to me tbh. @Oats: Who da eff is scum then if it isn't some large portion of FT/VA the "I don't need to look like town" players or Koshi/Rayn the "Maybe if we shout loudest the thread will believe us" siamese twins. PS: Can anybody explain unshakeable town reads from N0? Because rayn and koshi are pulling those out bigtime. Like, not only are they joined at the hip, but rayn has a variety of other "100% town" reads on way way too many people. It doesn't make any sense at all. | ||
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Rayn's accusations are founded on essentially his claim that you tried to shut down thread discussion N0 when you should have learned better from an old game. Following which according to him you refused to "answer" his accusations. I mean, you could have played better N0 maybe but rayn went berserk over not much and hasn't calmed down ever since. Iunno, I was in your first NMM so maybe I just have too low an opinion of your play but so far as I've seen you have been your normal townie self, if not necessarily a shining beacon of towniness then at least you aren't playing overly scummily then expecting me to never question you or something. I kinda wish we would have less people spamming the thread with questions though. Don't just ask other people "well what do you think of X/Y/Z?" but rather TELL THEM WHY XYZ is scummy or not scummy. That goes out to a lot of people lol. Don't ask others to scumhunt for you, freaking get active and figure stuff out. Then tell others. | ||
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