Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2

On August 28 2013 16:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alakaslam, I'm going to say this in advance.
I think I may have to ignore you this game, so I hope you're town.
I just can't understand you.
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Ever.

On August 30 2013 13:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Anyway.

My serenade now for mkfuba07!



This makes FAR more sense in the context of Page 35 (FTW). Please see my signature for reference.

On August 31 2013 00:47 kitaman27 wrote:


No, I am assuming Black Mesa IS another scum team.

On August 31 2013 04:13 Risen wrote:
Well that's shady Onegu. So there's a secret QT some people have access to but scum potentially has access to as well?

Onegu did you post your own name in secret QT because you had already been posting in scum QT and just forgot to change accounts? (That's thin, but I think it's a real question)

On August 31 2013 04:13 Cephiro wrote:


1) Does your whole faction win with town, or is it you only?

I'm curious if Black Mesa is a group of people with different objectives.
Do you know everyone else in the faction, or did you just slip your identity by mistake. (Meaning others would know yours, but you don't know theirs?)

On August 31 2013 04:30 kitaman27 wrote:
If we assume that mafia has representatives in the quicktopic, I see no reason why it should remain private.

Does everyone agree revealing the posts in the qt and the timestamps? If you are a town member of Black Mesa I believe you should claim now, unless someone has a valid reason for them not to claim. After that, if you are found as a member of Black Mesa without claiming, you should be assumed anti-town.

On August 31 2013 21:05 Koshi wrote:
Also, Onegu is different this game. Not much general advice, way much #Big Plays

On August 31 2013 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu what is your victory condition?

On September 01 2013 02:40 strongandbig wrote:

i win with town. winning with town is my only win condition. i am a member of no other alignment than town. this is literally true
i am town. this is metaphorically true but my rolename is not "town" so it is not literally true.


nope
rayn's filter is way more game-related and way less fight-picky than when he was scum in got
either he's suddenly gotten much better at playing scum or he's a different alignment, either way we're not lynching him today.

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OKAY SO GERIPT

possibilities:
1 he's town and some-shot lynchproof
2 he's scum or third party and some-shot lynchproof
3 he's town and lying
4 he's scum or third party and lying

i'm going to ignore 3 for now because fuck him then.

I don't think 1 is likely. if he was really town then the only reason to try to get lynched like he has been would be if he gains some kind of power. there is literally no reason not to tell us that, but instead he just sits around and trolls the thread.

so he's scum. which is more likely, 2 or 4.

i think 2 is more likely. geript claimed unlynchable on page 49. when he claimed it he was at 3 votes, only one of which had even come in the previous 20 hours. this was not a desparate move by a scum or a 3p trying to reverse-psychology us into not lynching them. there's no way that was anything other than someone trying to get lynched.

why give scum what they want. we don't know why they want it but i think it's more likely that geript wants to be lynched than that he doesn't. and i don't want to give him what he wants.

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who do I want to kill? Well, VE. I still think his geript case was suspicious as fuck. The fact that I now believe geript is scum doesn't mean I don't think VE is also scum. Remember, geript wants to get lynched! VE could easily be his scum buddy. Also, remember the possibility of multiple scum factions. regardless of whether or not the black mesa pm circle thing is one of them. last aperture game there was a mixed-alignment pm circle and also two scum factions.

I challenge everyone to read what I wrote about VE's case on geript up until geript claimed lynchproof. tell me how VE could have been pushing that case from a townie mindset. Hell, when VE answered me he didn't even respond to my takedown of his case at all, he just attacked me for "not drawing strong enough conclusions from it."

I guess since it's less than twelve hours from lynch I should be talking about consolidation as well. Currently I would also lynch Kita. Not so sure about BH anymore. Don't want to kill wos anymore either.
I could get down with lynching felkyr but the case on him is kind of a coinflip between scum or noob imo. still better odds of hitting scum than a policy lynch on zentor or alakaslam (both of whom are reasonable policy lynch targets).

I'm leaving my vote on VE for now, there's still 6+ hours until the lynch.

On September 01 2013 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im Batman.

On September 02 2013 10:43 cakepie wrote:
Guys, side note, the player list order has been modified.

+ Show Spoiler [changelist] +

How much of this are you responsible for, Onegu? My best guess is you only moved yourself?

Also, Hiro seems to have known in advance that something was going to happen around Felkyr.

That's in addition to being somehow convinced beforehand that BH was going to die D1

What's your deal, Hiro?

##Vote: HiroPro

viva BH, etc


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you might want to put that in the vote thread

On September 03 2013 01:30 strongandbig wrote:
okay lol anonymous green check and rolenamecheck on shiaopi.

@onegu was the namecheck or the greencheck posted first? if the rolenamecheck was posted first, it would make me even more suspicious of the "green check" on him, given that the rolename was bound to draw attention in the first place. although i don't think we can put much faith in a green check when it comes from someone completely anonymous in the first place.

anyway we definitely shouldn't lynch shiaopi now. kanti was town's standout strongest power role in aperture 1. if shiaopi is actually a town kanti then scum will absolutely have to kill him tonight. then if he doesn't die tonight we can decide whether to lynch him tomorrow.

On September 03 2013 14:40 Felkyr wrote:


@Onegu
Would you like to explain this? I don't know anything, in as far as that would convince you. If there is more being said in the Black Mesa QT, you should tell us. Are you not the town representative there? People have asked for it several times...

@All

+ Show Spoiler +

If I read this correctly, the circle will STAY on Hiro. Hence, Hiro will stay protected (unless fate rises). HiroPro WILL die if the fate counter gets to 5.

I'm still not sure whether I want to lynch geript. As is said, he could be town. But indeed, he plays very anti-town. It would help greatly if he would explain some more. If he is able to give us another double lynch at a later time (or a voterig), that might be very beneficial. However, as he doesn't seem to want to cooperate at all, I'm afraid he will be useless or worse (and maybe scum above that). If there is a consensus to lynch geript, I will place my vote as necessary.

@geript Talk to us please.

@All
For the second vote, I think Slam is a good choice. I have always thought of him as scummy. Still, for the most part he is unreadable for me, and I have no metagame information to help me. Most of it was his vague/shitty talk. Now, he has done something clearly anti-town. Some people say that the fact that he posted about it makes him look town, but if I look at the earlier stuff he has posted, I don't see why he wouldn't post something like that as scum. I mean, it seems like he likes to draw attention. It was stupid both as town and as scum, but the action himself makes him scum. Again, I will place my vote there if consensus deems it necessary.

Talking about talking shit. Now that Hiro seems to be contributing, I feel no direct need to lynch him today, although it is still a possibility to me. He talked shit earlier and didn't make sense to me, but I'm don't know about him. It's easy to start doing the right thing when you will die, I suppose.

I would like to hear from Hassy what he has to say about the Kita claim.

@Koshi


Could you explain this? At first, I thought this was the item you wanted to give to Vayne (and that you made it for him). However, from your phrasing you seem to suggest it is good that it was changed from owner? Do you think scum made it?
Below is the post that made me think you invented the item, btw.



@Rayn
I know you like to talk about your pokemon.

So, you are supposed to fight with another pokemon guy, right? Why would you think he is town? To me, it seems much more logical/likely that your opponent is scum or at least antitown if you are town. Why would you let people fight otherwise? That being said, like you assumed yourself, S&B could be your opponent.

And another boldface post (although not that evincive):

He has denied it, but of course he will do that if the chances are likely your opponent is scum. But why would he write it then in the first place? To have something to claim later on, only afterwards realizing his mistake? OR, he thinks/knows that your opponent is Randombum, which is interesting.sss
S&B Would you comment on that? Why would you boldface that sentence?

On September 03 2013 17:14 cakepie wrote:
If stutters actually used his ability, then it would have affected onegu instead. What bugs me about this is that we haven't heard from stutters all day.

Also Onegu can you give us the timestamp of the discussion between you and stutters in the BM QT?

On September 04 2013 03:35 strongandbig wrote:
Lol
What would that even mean? How would yi know hiro was in the chat? Other than if they're, like, actually both scum?

On September 04 2013 05:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Why are people still voting Hiro?

On September 04 2013 05:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


I bolded the logical fallacy.

On September 04 2013 05:29 Koshi wrote:
Or wait. Are there 2 scums in the BM QT?
wtf are you even saying Onegu.
Jeezus. Cryptic like fuck.

On September 04 2013 05:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


I'm confused why we are listening to mystery people in a mysterious QT that people mysteriously post in.

On September 04 2013 07:07 geript wrote:

One last important thing. This is an honest to god scum slip. Look at his following reactions:





He instantly realizes he's slipped and goes into panic mode. As town he'd simply correct to "at least 2 scum..." His reaction isn't one of "oh whatever nothing to hide" it's exactly the opposite. He panicked, tried to correct the slip then tried to downplay it by calling himself stupid. Scum.