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On September 10 2013 01:17 AxleGreaser wrote:Meh I will just get too tired to do it properly if I let this lynch roll around in the thread to see if anything useful falls out.
ATTENTION + Show Spoiler +
Scum RB'd Shiaopi N2. Shiapi claimed the RB.
As WOS says the plan was to include me in the mason QT. That did not happen.
Alakslam the Scum RB was removed from the game D3.
No one RB'd Shiaopi D3, Shiaopi sent in the request to add me to the "mason QT". (hi WOS)
Shiaopi died but the Mason QT lives on.
Apparently Shiaopi does not have to be alive for the "Mason" QT to still operate.
WOS has not been entirely truthful about what he said happened in the Mason QT with Shiaopi. In this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19703097 Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
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He volunteered his role info (minus the KP only being usable on mason members for obvious reasons) to me despite me not having provided any reads or information to him yet. This is not what happened. Shiaopi did not "volunteered his role info" WOS specifically asked for information about the role. When Asked Shiaopi replied and explained the mechanics of 4 Players ... gave him 1 shot KP. Later WOS specifally asked if the KP was on mason members (more role fishing) at thatpoint hsiaopi lied and said it was "normal" KP.
So your entire scumread is because I said 'volunteered?' as a response to my asking?
Ok you're right, I asked him but I used the word volunteered because he answered my question before receiving anything from me which showed me his towniness. I was not lying at all and you're calling me scum based on semantics.
The fact that you were added to the QT (AND DIDNT FUCKING SAY ANYTHING) means Shiao was concerned over you being scum at some point as well since you could be shot if he added two more people.
Why would you not try and get reads from me in QT rather than simply spy on me?
I told the truth about absolutely everything in there.
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On September 10 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what have you been doing with your role? Are you the cop?
I have done basically nothing with my role.
It's useless.
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On September 10 2013 01:31 AxleGreaser wrote:
In the QT WOS there was an exchange WOS said he derped and when Shiaopi typed Axle WOS read it as Alak...
In clarifying WOS
said he would not have thought Shiaopi would have thought Axle was scummy.
Not only did Shiaopi say he had solid town read on Axle just before he told WOS he would recruit me, but WOS claimed he would have thought shiaopi would think that...
There is not confusion WOS simply conveiniently made up that "so I suspect his reasoning may have been similar, possibly to keep you close so he could shoot you if necessary (if he though you might be scum)."
At the time I believed when Shiao said his KP could be used on anyone, after I questioned him about it.
Then when he flipped I realized my initial suspicions were right and that's why I was initially recruited, and probably why you were as well.
nothing more to it than that Axle. You're trying to throw shit at me and draw lies out of nowhere. I was completely truthful in everything I said to Shiao.
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I've seen all I need to see.
##Vote: Axlegreaser
This is the third time in a row now he's doing this. Seems unbelievable but it's true. trying to 'make plays' by not talking in the QT at all so I didn't realize he was in there so he could try to catch me in something, when there is NOTHING to catch me in.
Hey Axle, I have a proposition for you. Since they are my posts, I can copy/paste everything I ever said in there. Then you can show me exactly where I flat out lied and it's not just a bullshit interpretation of yours.
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On September 10 2013 01:39 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Got cut.
Okay so, Axle is saying WoS has been lying in thread about what has been talked about in the QT, correct?
WoS did not actually know Axle has even been in the QT, correct? Yep lying is a challenging word. it is now up to the thread to gauge what I posted above. WOS bent stuff a bit to make him look better the way he described Shiaopi volouteering information about the role makes it look in this thread like Shiaopi trusted him enough to just offer the information. The truth is WOS asked. Got told about 4 mason and 1shot KP. Then asked specifically again if the KP was only on mason members. At that point Shiaopi did lie and say it was normal KP.
Alright let me ask you something.
Even if you are right and I did lie about the fact that I asked Shiao, rather than in being a semantics issue, how does that make me scum exactly?
The point is, he gave me tons of info on him before I gave him ANYTHING on me, or answered any of his questions, which is what gave me the townread on him. Why am I scum because of that, Axle?
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Here is my 6th post in the QT:
Alright I'm back.
Shiao?
Anything to say?
Any reason why you masoned me?
Here is my 9th
Yes, but I won't be for much longe.
You're welcome to answer any of the questions I asked you.
the 7th and 8th were Shiao asking me if I was around. We missed each other a lot as our times were apparently very different.
(WANT TO CONFIRM THAT TOO AXLE?)
Shiao then gave me all the role info like Axl said, minus the fact that KP could only be used on masoned people.
Shiao did not ask me any questions before this point.
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On September 10 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck would you lie about what happened in the QT if you are town and the other dude is flipped town?
Also the roleclaim please.
Because I DIDNT FUCKING LIE
I used the word 'volunteered' but it was apparently the wrong word to use. I meant it to mean that Shiao freely gave out role information without having received any from me first?
And once again even if I DID lie (WHICH I FUCKING DIDNT) why does that make me scum? What about that lie is considered scummy??
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Hey Axle, did I also lie about the fact that most of the reads given out in the QT were mine, and genuine?
Why are you just picking out things that seem to fit your case?
What about the fact that Shiao believed that I was town?
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Oh for fuck sakes.
Fine better for me to claim now than later. You'd better force some shit out of Axle though for this.
I'm Edward Elric the Fullmetal Alchemist.
3P survivor.
Does that fit with all of the theories people have about me now?
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I have been playing for town from the start of the game, aside from the period in the middle where scum were doing pretty well. No reason for me to actively help there. Now that scum is on the back foot again, no reason to hold back.
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EBWOP aside from the period in the middle where i afked because scum were doing pretty well.
I have not played actively anti-town in any way this game.
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On September 10 2013 01:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
More survivor claims, great.
lol why do you think I have so many issues with other people's claims?
How the fuck are there this many survivors in a game?
Also I have reason to believe I'm going to lose now as I think I am a target for someone's wincon. So fuck you, lynch Axle.
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Because VE's is obviously real. Risen's we find out about eventually apparently, VA is gone already, and we have no idea who Yi is, HENCE ME TRYING TO FIND HIM.
Gee I wonder why there were so many townreads on me as 3P maybe because I was playing for fucking town.
As far as shooting me goes, I have no idea what I return to checks, it doesn't say in my role PM.
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I can further prove my survivor claim is completely real but there is a chance I could still survive this so I'd REALLY rather not reveal anything more if I can avoid it. Suffice it to say, I don't have any powers anymore, and never really used them. I was an antivoter and due to specific conditions was only able to use it D1 but obv Geript fucked that up.
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On September 10 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well if you are not scum you don't die.
Yeah maybe YOU don't kill me but I'm pretty sure somebody will. I don't think it'll be scum either since they really need to kill town atm.
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On September 10 2013 02:00 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well if you are not scum you don't die. Yeah maybe YOU don't kill me but I'm pretty sure somebody will. I don't think it'll be scum either since they really need to kill town atm.
Oh you meant the shot.
I suppose if there's no other choice then go for it, btu I'm not sure that's how the role interaction would work. Austin can maybe confirm?
Either way i think I'm fucked now.
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Hey Axle you love reading my filter.
Go look through my filter and find inconsistencies with my claim and our discussions.
Go, boy!
Fetch!
here's a particularly good one imo:
On September 09 2013 23:40 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 22:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Once again, I say this:
if I was scum, why in all that is holy would I bother returning to this thread and draw attention to myself when I could have coasted through the rest of this game? (like VE)
Whether or not you think I've been doing a good job since I've come back or have proper motivations or 'agendas' that point alone should remain clear.
It would be fucking STUPID. I dont think so.
VE is a flipped 3rd party. You are not the equivalent of VE.You AFKing would have got you lynched. It was not you that drew the attention.. it was my posts saying i had questions.
What was my response to you here?
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On September 10 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 02:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 10 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well if you are not scum you don't die. Yeah maybe YOU don't kill me but I'm pretty sure somebody will. I don't think it'll be scum either since they really need to kill town atm. So why is it bad for Austin group to confirm you? If there is someone who needs to kill you in order to win they already know it.
Because I don't want to be killed by Austin's group, and I am not sure if there is someone who needs to kill me to achieve their wincon or not. I have some reason to believe there is but there very well may not be.
I'd obviously rather not die period, and if for whatever reason the Austincheck considers me scum then I die. If he can tell me whether it does or not he can go right ahead. Hell he can anyway I suppose it's not like I can do anything to stop him.
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On September 10 2013 02:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 02:04 austinmcc wrote:
I cannot CONFIRM anyone but randombum.
If my group is unanimous, the shot goes off. If it's not, the shot doesn't go off. I get fake-DT powers on people IN my cell, not magical DT bullets. Oh. That's why we can't lynch him? Because he's in your sleeper cell and we can confirm his alignment based on that. If he's scum he dies, If he's town he lives. I see.
But wasn't what was suggested as me being added to the sleeper cell to perform that check?
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On September 10 2013 02:07 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 02:04 austinmcc wrote:
I cannot CONFIRM anyone but randombum.
If my group is unanimous, the shot goes off. If it's not, the shot doesn't go off. I get fake-DT powers on people IN my cell, not magical DT bullets. So let's kill Risen or WoS then! And tomorrow we get cop checks and sleeper cell "confirmation".
Where the fuck is Ceph?
I want you dead and have since the start.
Guess why you were roleblocked?
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