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On September 03 2013 07:40 kitaman27 wrote:
lol man, this thread sure did die. For the sake of being able to move on, I'll activate the role and sit on the names for a bit more time to give everyone a chance to read.
That's really what I'm waiting on. If your role is as you say it is we'll likely either catch scum straight away or have a list of 2-3 people with 1 confirmed scum.
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Hassy and alakaslam then? Sounds good to me.
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vayne, read the thread:
On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 09:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Well that actually sucks for him =\
Why does Hassy not look good? Who acted on VE? Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there. All the proof you need.
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On September 03 2013 10:29 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:28 Clarity_nl wrote:vayne, read the thread: On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 09:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Well that actually sucks for him =\
Why does Hassy not look good? Who acted on VE? Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there. All the proof you need. how about you read the thread. I just said that it isn't open and shut like that.
Do you know something I don't? It seems pretty open and shut.
On September 03 2013 10:15 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:10 kitaman27 wrote:On September 03 2013 10:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
So is town just incredibly amazing at killing themselves this game or do we have two scum here caught in their night actions? I don't understand this. Either: A) Hassy lied and is guilty B) I'm lying about Hassy and I'm guilty How does either lead to town killing themselves? C) this game makes no fucking sense for all we know some role could have done something to make his protection not go through but he still thinks it did. In this case, neither of you are lying. You aren't thinking over everything
This is just... grasping at straws.
Kita can you clarify, does your role see actions that are attempted or actions that are actually done?
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On September 03 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here.
What does this mean?
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On September 03 2013 10:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
No, his filter is terrible but if I went based off that, this would be a reverse mafia game.
WHAT
On September 03 2013 10:25 strongandbig wrote:
Lol this is nice
Either hassy is lying or Kita is
##unvote
##vote: kita
WHAT
On September 03 2013 10:38 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 10:36 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 03 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe we have to lynch one of them but barely any votes are on alakaslam. Something is wrong here. What does this mean? ?? everyone is quick to believe that the night actions on this specific case is incriminating but nobody cares that alakaslam fucked the entire village with his item.
Two people voted hassy so far. Neither of which moved from alakaslam.
I'm going to bed. Can people place their damn votes please? halfway through day 2 and there's like 20 people not voting.
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On September 03 2013 14:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 13:12 Risen wrote:On September 03 2013 11:48 randombum wrote:Ok I'm back. First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early. As he said On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote:
Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today. Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him. And it doesn't help that he killed a townie. Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player. Bolded is relevant. Town players don't troll that hard. Man I wish that my vote counted for shit because now you're being too obtuse to be town. You can get over it. I'm way more invested in beating brutal and getting good at SC2 than playing this game. Hell I just scored a 72 at MP in bridge with my dad. Nothing about what I did wasted town's time. If town chose to waste their time on that instead of scum hunting that's on them instead of me. Rather, should anyone actually choose to go back and read instead of bitch about how I'm playing I'm sure there's actual useful information to be found there based on who wants to talk about claims and shit instead of actually progress the thread. Prove it scum. Risen tunnel enabled.
Do you even believe half the shit you post?
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I want a third lynch. Alakaslam, Hassy, geript.
Axle have you reconsidered alakaslam yet? Notice how he still hasn't done anything ever since koshi found out he was the one who used the d6.
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On September 03 2013 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 14:42 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 03 2013 14:12 geript wrote:On September 03 2013 13:12 Risen wrote:On September 03 2013 11:48 randombum wrote:Ok I'm back. First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early. As he said On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote:
Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today. Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him. And it doesn't help that he killed a townie. Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player. Bolded is relevant. Town players don't troll that hard. Man I wish that my vote counted for shit because now you're being too obtuse to be town. You can get over it. I'm way more invested in beating brutal and getting good at SC2 than playing this game. Hell I just scored a 72 at MP in bridge with my dad. Nothing about what I did wasted town's time. If town chose to waste their time on that instead of scum hunting that's on them instead of me. Rather, should anyone actually choose to go back and read instead of bitch about how I'm playing I'm sure there's actual useful information to be found there based on who wants to talk about claims and shit instead of actually progress the thread. Prove it scum. Risen tunnel enabled. Geript: Nothing about what I did wasted town's time.Your time is (presumably you claim town) is towns time and your wasting it. Geript: If town chose to waste their time on that instead of scum hunting that's on them instead of me.You talk about town as if you are not part of it are you claiming scum AGAIN?But you intentionally playing to your scum meta... the wagon on you was so strong I couldn't find a viable alternative wagon... I spent my time trying to find such a viable alternative wagon, you(if you are town) wasted my time. You still are. Geript: Rather, should anyone actually choose to go back and read instead of bitch about how I'm playing I'm sure there's actual useful information to be found there based on who wants to talk about claims and shit instead of actually progress the thread.Well one of the anyones who could go back read would be you (as you seem to imply you are town) So how would people progress the thread when one person who now claims to be town was single handedly ensuring there was only one viable wagon? Thus there is very little way to force scum to make decisions and take stances? Geript: Prove it Uh no... it is hardly ever proved someone is scum when they get lynched. There is just a preponderance of evidence. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=301748Here i highlighted a few bits.... Priority #1: Establishing Your Innocence Being an obvious innocent is worth a lot more than being an active but confused poster. Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. The only evidence i can think of that you might be town.. is you are geript. is a role such as yours unbalanced if its scum. ( I have clear ideas how it might be a scum role) If activating your(scums) D1 vote rigging mandated the D2 double lynch... then apart from giving you the power to mess with town and get presumably 4 scum controlled kills D1, after a double town controlled lynch... we are back close to par. So there is nothing about your role that for me screams cant be scum. Your play however even apart from the D1 stuff up ... consists of entirely lurk. Not sure how much more proven it could be? We have two lynches today... I am happy for one lynch today to be geripts. Based on his play I find zero reason not to. So while I already have a vote on one wagon... ** want geript lynched (today not tomorrow) You may find this oddly ironic fitting and wrong at the same time but if you think about it it's not ##Vote: the Musclebound+ Show Spoiler +No hard feelings though btw
Hi alakaslam. What is this?
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Hassy something doesn't add up. When VE died noflip you said "damn, I guess he must have died to something that goes through protection", yet only now you're checking to make sure the action happened?
On September 01 2013 19:37 Hassybaby wrote:
OK, lets see if I can do something badass tonight
/roll 1d20 + 9
On September 03 2013 04:26 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 01:20 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 03 2013 01:16 Onegu wrote:
Post from Black Mesa
Our claimed third party would like me to pass along the message that
I've got following role on Shiao: He is Kanti, Lord of the Black Flames.
Also there is a green check on shiao pi. He is the person who is masoned with me, and I am leaning town on him now. The fact that THAT is role that (someboody?) has for him worries me immensely though... As far as VE, kita, it is one of the topics Shiao and I are discussing in QT. I thought it odd that he flipped black because I was wondering if that made him 3P when I thought he was town, but apparently that was recently cleared up. I still want to know exactly what Hassy thought his role was supposed to do. It bothers me that he hasn't done a great deal. It was supposed to save his life, but he was either double tapped, or the shot was unblockable, because I didnt roll high enough to block the unblockable.
On September 03 2013 17:38 Hassybaby wrote:
Let me double check that my heal was registered as an action. I definitely wasn't roleblocked, or at least, I didn't get a message saying I was.
How is your first instinct to think he was hit twice or a shot on him was unblockable, and then later you consider that your protection didn't happen?
Apparently there is a good reason to think that you might not have sent in an action. So why wasn't that the first thing that came to mind when VE flipped?
You said you didn't send your night action the traditional way? What does this mean?
On September 03 2013 17:50 Hassybaby wrote:Because I didnt exactly send my action in at night time in the traditional way. Even so, Grey's pretty on point with these matters, but I just want to tick that box
You already said that your d20 roll in thread was fake for reactions right? So that's not it. Please explain how you sent in your night action.
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Koshi how do you feel about this whole hassy/kita business? You seemed quick to agree with hassy's explanation of his role being messed with.
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On September 03 2013 19:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
I kinda like hassy's explanation cause its not like he was instantly accusing kita for being scum. It felt like he was genunienly confused.
Does a scum hassy not do the same? I kinda get where you're coming from but if hassy is scum then kita is obviously town, and hassy would know that.
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Ugh. Yeah I'm not certain on hassy and his response feels genuine. randombum is the best lynch aside from alakaslam but people seem to disagree. I don't like an OO lynch. I'm okay with a geript one.
Hiro is a fucking terrible lynch and the people who are on him should consolidate.
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Keep in mind that oats got mislynched in desert for similar reasons guys. And Cephiro, Oats isn't wrong. You've been shouting that he's scum but done not much else. I don't like his lynch today at all so please focus elsewhere and return to it later if you must.
Everyone should be consolidating and placing their vote if they haven't yet. We're 11 hours away and ANYONE could be lynched with the amount of people who haven't voted.
alakaslam, geript, randombum, OO and.... hassy I guess.
Stick to those five, votes anywhere else are just useless.
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Too many people look like scum
I'll be back tonight
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Koshi is the aspect of justice
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On September 04 2013 01:50 strongandbig wrote:
um so ve wasn't master yi?
anyway i read a bunch of hassy's old games. he's like never been scum so i'm having trouble finding a pattern.
i really don't like his filter. there's zero discussion of who might be scum except for an ill-reasoned shoutout at wos (srsly, as far as I can tell his only read is based off of confusing who said what between wos and va?)
and the "oh my action didn't go through" excuse is pretty much the only thing scum could say if they feel caught... but it could also be true...
okay so conclusion: scummy filter + night action suspicion = i'm going to keep my vote on hassy.
i think our other lynch should be alakaslam. i would also support a shiaopi lynch or a geript lynch, since geript is still refusing to play the game.
Cephiro has a green check/mason/something on Shiaopi, or at least that's how I took his post at the start of d2.
Here's the thing, hassy mentioned his action and the apparent failure thereof WAY before kita claimed his ability and used it.
Did scum hassy have a reason to think he was tracked/watched/whatever? Not as far as I'm aware.
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On September 04 2013 01:57 strongandbig wrote:
oh right
dont lynch shiaopi
he still hasn't done anything but i forgot about the check, we should leave him for now
but clarity, you're wrong about hassy. he didn't claim "maybe my action didn't go through" until after kita did his thing. What he claimed at first was that he tried to protect VE but either his protection failed or VE was double stacked.
Oh okay that's what you meant. Yeah I deconstructed that, but his reaction seemed really genuine. Maybe I'm just a sucker?
Bleh. I also don't like how he had this surge of "fuck it I'm just gonna post till I figure out the game!" and then nothing.
I'd rather lynch geript or one of the lurkers over hassy =/
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On September 04 2013 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 01:53 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 04 2013 01:50 strongandbig wrote:
um so ve wasn't master yi?
anyway i read a bunch of hassy's old games. he's like never been scum so i'm having trouble finding a pattern.
i really don't like his filter. there's zero discussion of who might be scum except for an ill-reasoned shoutout at wos (srsly, as far as I can tell his only read is based off of confusing who said what between wos and va?)
and the "oh my action didn't go through" excuse is pretty much the only thing scum could say if they feel caught... but it could also be true...
okay so conclusion: scummy filter + night action suspicion = i'm going to keep my vote on hassy.
i think our other lynch should be alakaslam. i would also support a shiaopi lynch or a geript lynch, since geript is still refusing to play the game. Cephiro has a green check/mason/something on Shiaopi, or at least that's how I took his post at the start of d2. Here's the thing, hassy mentioned his action and the apparent failure thereof WAY before kita claimed his ability and used it. Did scum hassy have a reason to think he was tracked/watched/whatever? Not as far as I'm aware. No he had one on Zentor right? Someone else had a green on ShiaoPi?
Oh that's right. Cephiro said that about zentor. Don't recall what happened to my read on shiaopi now, wtf. >.<
Will check.
On September 04 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont understand the thought process of Scum hassy doing this though.
Hey lets claim a medic fail protect on VE because why the fuck not..
Yeah....
Yeah, this.
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