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On September 09 2013 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 22:55 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm not assuming they're mafia necessarily but I don't see how they can all be so unbelievably benign-seeming. VE, VA, and Risen now. I don't know what we're supposed to assume about Yi but essentially we can't do shit about him since we only got snippets of info from Onegu/Stutters and he's been free to do whatever the fuck he's wanted. It has been rubbing me the wrong way since the start of the game. On that note, my initial list may have been wrong because I don't think anyone on my original list of who he could be is still alive. I have to check.
VA is dead. VE's role is in thread. Risen's claim sounds fake to you? Why? It doesn't sound fake. What I'm saying is we have had 3 3P survivors and we 'know' Yi is 3P, are we supposed to assume survivor too? Why are YOU so interested in my Yi talk all of a sudden? Aren't you supposed to think it's scummy? What more do you need to hear?
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Yup, it does. So maybe if you're town you can understand how I am.
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I just had a random hilarious thought: Hiro is scum because he rolled Chezinu, who always rolls scum.
Actually looked into Hiro though and there was some stuff in his filter I didn't like, among them a seeming bus on OO that was dropped really quickly after it was brought up.
Cephiro, did your plan hinge on Hiro being town in order to work, or is it possible for you to have simply given a nuke to scum to use on another townie?
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On September 09 2013 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: WoS why did you drop your scumread on me? You were the first person that I looked at upon coming back and I had zero scumreads---seemed like a good enough place to start. I'm probably null on you right now overall because of your activity since I've come back and a feeling of townRayn but that meshes with my earlier scumread. The more I see from you in the next little while the more clear you will become to me.
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On September 09 2013 23:36 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 22:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh Axle you bring up a good point. Whenever you tunnel me, you happen to be scum! Are you scum, Axle? Nope I am town, and not tunnelling you. I am catching you. Narp! If you do turn out to be scum I would actually find it pretty hilarious that you'd try this in every game we play together. I find that somewhat unlikely so you're PROBABLY not, but yeah.
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On September 09 2013 23:40 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 22:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Once again, I say this: if I was scum, why in all that is holy would I bother returning to this thread and draw attention to myself when I could have coasted through the rest of this game? (like VE) Whether or not you think I've been doing a good job since I've come back or have proper motivations or 'agendas' that point alone should remain clear.
It would be fucking STUPID. I dont think so. VE is a flipped 3rd party. You are not the equivalent of VE. You AFKing would have got you lynched. It was not you that drew the attention.. it was my posts saying i had questions. Was it? Show me one person who paid attention to the 100 times you brought me up over the past few days.
Goodness me this post makes me laugh simple due to how unbelievably wrong you are. Scumwrong or townwrong? Keep posting, Axle.
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I actually find it ESPECIALLY hilarious that you would say AFKing would get me lynched.
This is fucking TL Mafia. Show me how often a lynch of an afker happens.
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On September 09 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Axle: Can you make a clear consolidated post on why you think WoS is scum? I agree with him your posts are hardto read and i do not understand much of them, i would probably act like WoS is atm if i was in his position regardless of my alignment.
WoS: Can you tell us who would you lynch now and why? This back and forth with Axle is doing no good to anyone atm. It does not help people figure out your alignment. Also answer Axle when he makes the post please. Also also stop hunting for third factions unless you think they are scum, in that case explain why.
Stutters: You need to come in and explain yourself to Clarity's questions. Otherwise i will lynch you, because you are distracting everyone right now. Also who is scum? You just drop in with some pieco of information and fuck off immediately after that. I have no idea who do you think is mafia. I don't think I ever said his posts are hard to understand (though I have said that in the past). I actually find him to be a little clearer than usual this game (or maybe it's simply relative to the existence of Alakaslam, whose posts are in every way impossible).
I need some time. Don't think I would lynch Stutters as this is pretty consistent with his town game. He fucks off. That's what he do. If I voted randombum that would be just a sheep vote as I haven't looked at him. I want to say Hiro honestly but I'm waiting to hear what Cephiro has to say regarding his plan.
Random qs: Does the greencheck on Felkyr give him a free pass? Are the people who are supposed to die actually going to die? (ie was the shot on debears a fake? Is Zentor dead?)
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I'm not following here honestly. What did he do?
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Couldn't that also mean he thinks there is actually another trainer who isn't Oak? I'm really confused.
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Well that's pretty fucking elaborate. if this all went down as you said, Austin, wp.
So essentially now the question becomes do people trust the claim and its mechanics enough to let Austin deal with randombum or are people worried that it could be a ploy to let him live another night for whatever reason.
Clarity you don't trust Austin it seems. Any particular reason why?
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On September 10 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: WoS does your role name start with letter B? It does not.
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My role starts with an E.
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Oh hey debears ninja vote? Are you around? Are you sure Rayn is scum?
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On September 10 2013 00:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 00:45 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 10 2013 00:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 10 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 10 2013 00:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I think one of Axle or Wave is scum. I've read WoS as townie leading up to Casket, and Axle just seems like a coinflip because he's Axle. Anything he says or does is complete WIFOM because he's Axle, and he does what he wants.
Is Hiro mafia? That is the question I need to answer today. Do you believe zentor to be town? Or you think the crush thing is fake? Zentor is scum. He was one of the scum in casket, and I think there is one more. It's probably hiro or bum. MAYBE wos but I doubt that. You are aware that Hiro is crushing Zentor? If Zentor is scum then I'd say hiro is clear. I guess it's between bum and wos, then. Why does that clear Hiro exactly? We don't exactly know of the conditions of Cephiro's grand plan do we?
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On September 10 2013 00:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 00:49 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 10 2013 00:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 10 2013 00:45 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 10 2013 00:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 10 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 10 2013 00:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I think one of Axle or Wave is scum. I've read WoS as townie leading up to Casket, and Axle just seems like a coinflip because he's Axle. Anything he says or does is complete WIFOM because he's Axle, and he does what he wants.
Is Hiro mafia? That is the question I need to answer today. Do you believe zentor to be town? Or you think the crush thing is fake? Zentor is scum. He was one of the scum in casket, and I think there is one more. It's probably hiro or bum. MAYBE wos but I doubt that. You are aware that Hiro is crushing Zentor? If Zentor is scum then I'd say hiro is clear. I guess it's between bum and wos, then. Why does that clear Hiro exactly? We don't exactly know of the conditions of Cephiro's grand plan do we? Hiro is crushing Zentor with a hammer today. Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hassy said he was blocking VE right? He is not lying because he was town. Yeah, he did but forgot to action. I know he is crushing him but only because a bunch of people blindly volunteered for Cephiro's plan. Not only do we not know for sure if this will happen or not, we don't really know much of the details of what Cephiro exactly had in mind.
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If we assume simple scenarios are true then the scum are probably Zentor/randombum, but as this is a Greymist game I refuse to assume it is that simple.
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On September 10 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why the fuck we can't lynch randombum? I really do not want to lynch WoS today. The theory behind not lynching randombum is because Austin's role takes care of it. he either dies supposedly if scum, and if town we get a check 'confirming' him town.
Again this all depends on whether people choose to believe Austin---Clarity you are voting for randombum so do you have reason to mistrust him?
(For the record I don't know what my own stance on that issue is yet either)
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I still have a big problem here. If all of these claims are true, then we have what, a 5 man scumteam with a shit fuck ton of survivors that can win with either alignment (basically)?
This seems pretty unbelievable in relation to what past Aperture games have looked like.
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On September 10 2013 01:15 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: We are not lynching a dude who has un-cc'dly claimed shooting Coag. I am not even thinking about it Austin. Tell me why do you have to shoot exactly randombum? What's the logic? I think there's a good shot of him flipping scum. However, everything that happened towards the middle/end of closed casket world is on my mind. Something went really wrong with whatever was going on over there, because (given no townie claim) someone created a second thread, put people in a world WITH NO FLIPS, and then they no-lynched. I like the no-lynch given the lack of discussion/planning over there, but I don't like the lead up to it, the lack of discussion itself and the general MEH attitude towards a lynch. I'm worried that bum was set up as a mislynch and something went wrong. That's why I'd like to shoot randombum, because IF he's town, he won't get shot. If he's town, his vote counts, he'll vote NOT himself, and because the vote isn't unanimous then he'll live. I can't do that with anyone else, because anyone stutters and cakepie targets will get shot, randombum is the exception because he's also in the sleeper cell, so his vote would count if he's town. I'm fairly sure I would be the thing that went wrong in that case as I'm pretty sure when I suggested no lynch near the end of the day it actually happened.
Hiro: If Ceph is 'Master Tsiv' are you Yi? Are you two 3P?
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