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Time to insta claim folks | ||
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On August 07 2013 15:39 Blazinghand wrote: This thread is now closed until the day start! The day will start within the next 15 minutes. I will be posting the setup before the day start. Do not comment between the setup being posted and the day starting. On August 07 2013 15:58 Blazinghand wrote: D1 stuff OMG U SO LAZY BH!!!! Y U TAKE 4 XTRA MIN? | ||
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because there's no reason not to insta claim. I expect to get 3 unlynchables, 2 unlynchables or 1 unlynchable. All of those situations telegraph where we need to go with the lynch. | ||
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Why don't you want to insta claim? | ||
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No. Play the game. There is no kenpachi rule other than if he and only he says starsenses. Y U SO BAD OATS? | ||
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We get 3 unlynchable claims = no worse than 33% win chance We get 1 unlynchabl claim = no worse than 25% win chance, but really since every VT will be able to recognize that only 1 unlynchable claim and therefore limit his scum hunting to 1 of 3 people which gives us good odds to find scum instead of jester We get 2 unlynchable claims = it gets tricky I have a plan for this specifically but it doesn't work if I explain it. As you can see, every situation of claiming is pro town. Not one single bad option. | ||
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Geript -- VT Oats -- VT Phagga doing total bs Mocsta MIA Hapa MIA | ||
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night night time for me. | ||
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If the unlynchable is counter claimed once, then things get dicey as it could be either scum or jester. I had a plan for this but it's moot now. If the unlynchable was counterclaimed twice, then we have no worse than a 50/50 shot of winning. So the plan on forcing the claim isn't worthless like Hapa said. It actually bothers me that he thought it was. I want him to respond on why he thinks the correct claim for every role would be VT regardless of their actual role. | ||
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On August 08 2013 02:55 phagga wrote: The reason I objected had to do with the fact hat I tried to figure out geripts intentions and that I think town should be kept on a need to know basis. This is a really big key for me: On August 07 2013 16:31 phagga wrote: Ok, I have my own thoughts on this for later, but I guess it's worth a try. I'm VT. Which obviously means that at least one of you two is lying. You notice that he has no interest in following through on this. He "knows" that one of Oats/me are liars. But his continuation isn't to try and pressure either Oats, myself or Hapa (when he claims). He wants to focus on talking about the plan. Summary: It looks like he's trying to be lynched aka Jester. At worst, scum trying to be the jester. | ||
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On August 07 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote: so I was actually calling u jester lol.... ima horny and green so... everyone has claimed, pls post ya logic This post feels wrong to me too. All the pms were strict role, nothing else. It doesn't feel Mocsta-ish to claim horny and green (greenhorn aka vt) instead of just giving his role. He's also a smart cat. I don't get why he doesn't see the automatic logic behind claiming. His plan that both town and scum want to lynch the lynchproof is ridiculous to me. You can preclude the option of lynching the lynchproof if you only get 1 lynchproof claim. If you get 2 it gets tricky, but there are options to figure out which to lynch and whether to avoid both and instead fire into the VTs. If you get 3 lynchproof claims, then you get to avoid the situation almost entirely. There's a distinct lack of Mocsta-logic so far as well. I can't put my figure on it, but he's prodding aiming to fire into Oats/Hapa/Me, but he's not getting to the point on anything. Everything he writes feels like he's trying to keep his options open on where to move/pressure instead of trying to actually pressure anyone or anything to divine their alignment. It's also very interesting to me that his focus seems fully on the jester and the right play around the jester. Sure that's a pivotal point to have town avoid the jester, but it's far more important for scum to avoid jester lynches than it is for town. Town just needs to hit scum. Scum needs to avoid Jester and find room to hide. | ||
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What do you make of Hapa not really commenting on the plan other than "stupid" | ||
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On August 08 2013 12:59 Hapahauli wrote: That's a huge misrepresentation of what I've been posting considering your "plan." Like I said, every single role wants to claim VT. You seem to think that we should have the unlynchable claim, but that just makes them a target on N1. They can always claim if they're about to get lynched. I don't see the difference. If you dismiss the plan without explaining why you think it's bad then that's the same to me. | ||
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##vote phagga I think the last two unvoted (hapa/phagga) are scum/jester. Meh whatevs. | ||
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With a 1-1-1 vote, you're assured scum is looking to hammer but doesn't want to look scummy for a +1 and wants to make sure that they don't hit jester. We needed to move discussion forward and votes do that. | ||
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I don't want a random hammer going down quite yet. I'm going to bed. I'll read again in the afternoon/morning/whenever i wake up and finish work. | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:16 Oatsmaster wrote: he has been like contradicting himself, didnt follow geript's plan for no reason. and attacking Mocsta, active dude who has been shoving stuff down his throat. I think as scum he wouldve pushed Hapa. Moc think on this too... I need sleep and need to refilter again. | ||
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On August 10 2013 22:26 Mocsta wrote: Anyways. I read the phagga case and it's a joke. All his points take everything out of context and are not even worth formally responding to. Guys, phagga is mafia and needs to be voted off. Lets finish this game. I disagree there are a few good points here and there in it. But he's overselling some points majorly for 'shock' value or 'eye-popping-ness' or something similar. It's just that how he sells them is a really weird/odd approach for town to take. Honestly, I just want to vote phagga for funsies at this point. Oats, what do you think of Moc. | ||
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On August 10 2013 23:40 Mocsta wrote: Right Geript. So if u think the case has merit why not discuss it with me? I read the case and I think he has misconstrued points to satisfy his case. Because I wanted to work out the case on my own. Initially I wanted and answer to this: So no, Hapa has been barely pushing you at the beginning of the game. since the clarification, he has not mentioned you once as a scumread or a lynch candidate. And yes, it's perfectly possible that you are Mafia, since the guy we all think is jester stopped pushing you after the rule clarification. But then after thinking about it, it makes no sense. Jester isn't likely to push his scum target at all since if Scum gets lynched Jester loses regardless. Just feels alot more like a bunch of hyped up stuff for a scum case. ##vote phagga | ||
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As for why I dropped the Mocsta thing, my only real problem with him was based on meta. I only use meta to accuse people but because Mocsta's meta has shown a huge game (we were even talking about things prior to the starting of this game), where I would previously trust my meta reads on Mocsta, I don't right now because it's old out of date information. Sorry thought i posted this earlier but didn't apparently. Watching WCS and SW worlds | ||
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On August 11 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote: town can techinically win on day 2 too. Show how his meta differs from the start of the game as opposed to now geript? No, different meta from his previous games that I was exceptionally familiar with his games but I think he preferred play style has changed drastically. | ||
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On August 11 2013 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote: So why are you so angry? My stupidity makes you angry? You must be angry a lot then. Why do people always get angry when I want to lynch them. Its disturbing and not at all good for convincing people. Here's a hint, because you're rampantly obnoxious or stupid. I just got out of a game with you where you intentionally derped for what 3-4 days and got mad because people wanted to lynch you or vig you. And you can't understand this. I'm fucking obv town and you're too dumb to realize it. Why do you think I'm mad? | ||
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##vote Oats GTFO I'm policy lynching you from now until the end of time. Enjoy getting tunneled from now until forever. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Phagga Oats go vote you dumbass. | ||
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Also Oats, you should've claimed not VT. Glad to see you go. | ||
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Now you're being intentionally obtuse | ||
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I can't explain why you were scummy Moc. Just one of those things. | ||
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On August 12 2013 08:48 Ace wrote: I've skimmed and seen geript raged? This game must have been awesome (and guaranteed Scum win if geript gets mad as Town) Scum didn't get me mad at all. That was all Oats being retarded. I hope he never joins a game I'm in again. | ||
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On August 12 2013 09:32 phagga wrote: The oats kill was not odd at all. oats was the one refusing to kill me, while you were completely open to it. Of course he kills him. Killing me was barely an option when I was an (at that point) easy misslynch, and killing you could have complicated things for Mocsta massively. No you have to view it from an objective standpoint. If I'm scum, I'm free to kill either Mocsta or Oats. Neither of which is particularly damning. If Oats is scum, he NKs, Mocsta or myself. If Mocsta is scum, it's 50/50 to kill you or Oats (there's no real gain to kill me). But if Phagga is scum, he really needs to kill me as I'm far less damning to him than Mocsta. So the situation where Oats dies and I'm town is specifically odd because its a huge Wifom risk coming from you. More than anything else, I think your odd case strategies did you in. Nothing that you focused on was important IMO. The best points (what I quoted to Moc) were Wifom. | ||
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On August 12 2013 11:33 Mocsta wrote: Lol Geript... I thought phagga best point was I kept saying ima townie..it was intentional However.. the ones he quoted took the word use out of context I'm sure there's plenty others I just used the word as sublimjnal confirmation and felt that coulda really damned me. That's null for me entirely. You were town for me by process of elimination. Phagga's reactions read to me as if he had to think and analyze how best to respond instead of acting instinctively (which ironically was right). It was too much that he was trying to look town instead of being town. As for kill Wifom, that's why I ended up ignoring it. Phagga looked more like scum to me and wifoming and dragging it out wouldn't I don't think have changed the decision unless you slipped really bad. As for the insta-claim plan, the only way it fails IMO is if there are no unlynchable claims. That line of play takes all of the pressure off scum/jester to figure out how to respond. I'm not quite sure why it wasn't obvious to Oats/phagga immediately. I still caught you by the green/horny line. Oh we'll, I could've corrected at the end. | ||
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On August 12 2013 18:10 Oatsmaster wrote: no way geript or phagga wouldve voted for me anyway. I would've voted you for the lulz | ||
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