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On August 21 2013 02:45 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 02:43 OmniEulogy wrote:On August 21 2013 02:40 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 21 2013 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:On August 21 2013 02:34 LoneMeow wrote:On August 21 2013 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 21 2013 02:26 LoneMeow wrote:On August 21 2013 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:Read Lones filter and still think most of his posts are pretty townie although he should contribute more. There is only one thing I don't really get. On August 20 2013 06:35 LoneMeow wrote:
Deus' case on JAT is kind of OMGUS, but seems like a town reaction, if he was scum I'd expect him to push Alakaslam since he's obviously much more likely lynch than JAT.
Holyflare, your read on Deus?
iVLosK!, could you perhaps try to help us figure this game out and provide reads on Deus and Alakaslam? On August 20 2013 23:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Also, right now I'm agreeing with lynching Deus.
##Vote: DeusXmachina What happened between these posts, Lone? My top scum read ended up being the only one who was resisting the lynch besides Deus himself, and Alakaslam started looking more town to me. Sadly Slam's latest uselessness made him look less town again so I feel this lynch is a bit unsafe, I'd far prefer lynching iVLosK! who still hasn't really contributed much to the scum hunt at all. I see. Makes sense somehow. Could you make a case on iVLosk then? I don't think I can do a full case in the time remaining before lynch, but mainly my points are his reluctance to hunt scum, the lack of reads (the only strong read he's given so far is his case against me, which is a very weak case in my eyes) and just generally being useless. Also avoiding taking a stance on the pressing issue of Slam vs Deus is incriminating. You are right about his reserved play but if he is town then it is understandable if he thinks slam/deus are town don't you think? That's not reserved play. That's I don't give a fuck play. You are reserved. You have done nothing major that sets you apart from other players. wait what's the difference between JAT and LosK in the "I don't give a fuck" category? iV draws attention to himself because of his bold "I don't care what you guys think", I am going to be a dick, You will get reads from me when I want to give you reads style. He sticks out like a sore thumb. JAT tries to make it look like he cares. He plays substantially more reserved, and under the radar. Everything he does could be interpreted at an attempt to blend in.
iVLosK!'s antagonistic style is not alignment indicative, he practically has to play that way as either alignment since he's shown he's like that as town, otherwise he'd just get instantly lynched.
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On August 21 2013 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:
When did Lone vote iV?!
I haven't and I probably won't, it's unsafe to start spreading town votes this close to lynch unless we have an agreed switch.
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On August 21 2013 02:51 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 02:49 LoneMeow wrote:On August 21 2013 02:45 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 21 2013 02:43 OmniEulogy wrote:On August 21 2013 02:40 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 21 2013 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:On August 21 2013 02:34 LoneMeow wrote:On August 21 2013 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 21 2013 02:26 LoneMeow wrote:On August 21 2013 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Read Lones filter and still think most of his posts are pretty townie although he should contribute more. There is only one thing I don't really get.
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What happened between these posts, Lone? My top scum read ended up being the only one who was resisting the lynch besides Deus himself, and Alakaslam started looking more town to me. Sadly Slam's latest uselessness made him look less town again so I feel this lynch is a bit unsafe, I'd far prefer lynching iVLosK! who still hasn't really contributed much to the scum hunt at all. I see. Makes sense somehow. Could you make a case on iVLosk then? I don't think I can do a full case in the time remaining before lynch, but mainly my points are his reluctance to hunt scum, the lack of reads (the only strong read he's given so far is his case against me, which is a very weak case in my eyes) and just generally being useless. Also avoiding taking a stance on the pressing issue of Slam vs Deus is incriminating. You are right about his reserved play but if he is town then it is understandable if he thinks slam/deus are town don't you think? That's not reserved play. That's I don't give a fuck play. You are reserved. You have done nothing major that sets you apart from other players. wait what's the difference between JAT and LosK in the "I don't give a fuck" category? iV draws attention to himself because of his bold "I don't care what you guys think", I am going to be a dick, You will get reads from me when I want to give you reads style. He sticks out like a sore thumb. JAT tries to make it look like he cares. He plays substantially more reserved, and under the radar. Everything he does could be interpreted at an attempt to blend in. iVLosK!'s antagonistic style is not alignment indicative, he practically has to play that way as either alignment since he's shown he's like that as town, otherwise he'd just get instantly lynched. Like we talked about before meta is not a solid basis for analysis in newbie games. He doesn't have to play that way. Look at the consequences of his actions! Everyone is upset over the way he acts. He gets a lot of attention because of it. Scum wouldn't do that. They would draw attention to themselves in that way.
How can you be so sure he's town? I could agree with "null" or "leaning town" based on that if you truly believe it but the way you defend him makes it look like you have a very strong town read on him, what's that based on?
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On August 21 2013 02:56 DeusXmachina wrote:
It's not the best case. I refuse to bus another townie for my own sake.
Ok.
##Vote: Alakaslam
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EBWOP:
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You have no idea how stressed I was about whether my snap read was right or wrong...
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My snap read on the Alakaslam lynch was pretty much based on Deus proving himself to be far too towny to be viable lynch at that moment. His absolute refusal to switch to Slam to save himself screamed "either both are scum or Deus is town" to me, which meant that vote on Slam was the only correct choice.
More comments later, gotta eat breakfast and get to work...
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D1 was just painful, so many afkers getting modkilled/replaced. I almost lost motivation and stopped playing after that.
Some notes (all of this is up to when I got NK'd, didn't pay 110% attention after that):
Omni played a pretty good D2, I wasn't really suspicious of him at all until seeing the post where he said Slam would also be okay lynch but he still preferred Deus, that seemed like possibly trying to distance from a potential lynch.
JAT I suspected pretty badly during D1 for being so sheepy and avoiding giving reads, but his game picked up during D2 and I would definitely not have agreed to lynch him over Deus/Slam/iVLosK!.
Deus was both town MVP (for getting Slam lynched) and at the same time very distracting with his crazy paranoia and conspiracy theories. Special award for being TEH TUNNELMASTER :D
iVLosK! was just so very not pro-town with the non-participation and withholding reads. The overall feeling was that of someone not very interested in the game or scum (who aren't generally all that interested in hunting scum).
Alakaslam was being very Alakaslam and to be honest, that really works good when you're scum. I was so extremely frustrated at not being able to read you at all. Would've been interesting to see how the game would have gone without the voting shenigans.
Holyflare was the towniest town of them all to me, I don't think I had him marked as anything but null/town at any point during the game.
Had I survived the night I'd have been pushing suspicion on Omni and iVLosK!, I was actually intending to make a "in case I die" post saying so but missed the deadline by about half an hour.
Overall, very fun game even though a bit frustrating at times and quite stressful (just read my reaction to Slam flip). I especially enjoyed being for once able to look so town that I didn't need to really defend myself.
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