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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 16 2013 06:01 GMT
#192
I suppose I can always get mislynched D1, so

/in

Non alignment indicative note: Still one-handed, at the very least until end of month, so don't expect walls of text.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 17 2013 12:09 GMT
#230
On September 17 2013 21:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 21:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Spam will not be tolerated. Policy lynch inc.


I'd love to see you try.


Has anyone ever been policy lynched for lurking or spamming on TL?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 20 2013 09:41 GMT
#419
On September 20 2013 18:20 marvellosity wrote:
it's kinda funny, people are going stir crazy waiting.


There are practically no games running, nothing to obs while waiting. Golden Sun has been quite dead today
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 21 2013 12:55 GMT
#690
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 21 2013 13:29 GMT
#693
On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#684


It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 21 2013 16:47 GMT
#767
On September 22 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
As I went to the voting thread I noticed LoneMeow voted Pandain. So I found his filter.

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain



Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#684


It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.


These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain.

"I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me.


The problematic part of Mocsta's attack on Pandain is what happened before the ninja vote.

Also, wrt. Pandain, is there any valid town explanation why he'd vote but not explain his vote?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 21 2013 17:00 GMT
#772
On September 22 2013 01:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 01:47 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
As I went to the voting thread I noticed LoneMeow voted Pandain. So I found his filter.

On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain



On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#684


It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.


These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain.

"I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me.


The problematic part of Mocsta's attack on Pandain is what happened before the ninja vote.

Also, wrt. Pandain, is there any valid town explanation why he'd vote but not explain his vote?


Why would scum vote but not explain their vote? Does it seem like a particularly good idea for scum to do it? I think it is more likely that town would do something like that, than mafia.


It's harder to explain your vote as scum since you're not scumhunting, but that is a valid point and I have considered it. I still want him to come explain, so my vote stays on him until he does.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 06:32 GMT
#1060
Since Pandain has explained his vote, for now until I figure out an actual target:

##Unvote: Pandain

On September 22 2013 04:26 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#684


It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain


Pandains going to come back and explain his vote eventually, pressuring him into doing so won't make him come back FASTER.
Ironically, you just went out and found someone to stick your vote on :|
so I'm suspicious of koshi/lonemeow/no longer kush/kinda geript. Lonemeow most of all
##vote lonemeow



On September 22 2013 04:29 Umasi wrote:
Rather, here's why Pandain isn't scummy atm, and people who think he is are ridiculous:
Would town afk right after posting their vote?
no.
Would scum?
no.
Would town afk at the beginning of the game after being present?
no.
Would scum?
.......no.
so he SHOULD come talk in thread, but he's not scum because he hasn't. He's just a shitty lurker.


Did I call him scum?
NO.

Why is using my vote to pressure someone to explain himself scummy?

On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


(You really should know that I'm euro timezone, we've played together before...)

What? You claimed I'm scummy, why on earth would you unvote just because I wasn't here to respond if you really think I'm scum? Were you just trying to see if a wagon would start, why would you do that?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 06:45 GMT
#1062
On September 22 2013 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I might regret this, but does anyone have any like...previous games of Lone's I can peruse?


Here you go, in chronological order:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412757 (town, mislynched D2)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417692 (scum, conceded when last alive)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423708 (town, shot N2)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426146 (scum, alive at endgame)

None of this is going to be very helpful I fear.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:14 GMT
#1411
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:19 GMT
#1417
On September 23 2013 04:16 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.

:| then don't vote for me if you think you're wrong


Who, then? Myself? I can do that if you think it's better.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:22 GMT
#1421
On September 23 2013 04:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 04:19 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:16 Umasi wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.

:| then don't vote for me if you think you're wrong


Who, then? Myself? I can do that if you think it's better.

Yes please do.


Sure.

##Unvote: Umasi
##Vote: LoneMeow
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:26 GMT
#1423
On September 23 2013 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 04:19 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:16 Umasi wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.

:| then don't vote for me if you think you're wrong


Who, then? Myself? I can do that if you think it's better.

Wtf...


What's the wtf here? The way I see it, I have 3 options:

1) vote my only scum read (against whom I know I'm biased)
2) vote myself
3) vote at random

None of the options is really better than the others, so...
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:28 GMT
#1427
On September 23 2013 04:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 04:22 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:19 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:16 Umasi wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.

:| then don't vote for me if you think you're wrong


Who, then? Myself? I can do that if you think it's better.

Yes please do.


Sure.

##Unvote: Umasi
##Vote: LoneMeow

Dude, if you are town that is the worst thing you can do? Do you realize you did something that is close to claiming scum? Why are you doing this?


What else can I do?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:29 GMT
#1431
On September 23 2013 04:27 Coagulation wrote:
Lonemeow doesnt believe in re reading thread.


I've read and re-read the thread and filters all the time I had. I'm simply nowhere near good enough for games with players of this caliber.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#1437
On September 23 2013 04:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 04:29 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:27 Coagulation wrote:
Lonemeow doesnt believe in re reading thread.


I've read and re-read the thread and filters all the time I had. I'm simply nowhere near good enough for games with players of this caliber.

Then don't get lynched as town... We need to get rid of 2 scummers rather fast because the 3 NK shizzle.
It's already enough if you don't get lynched as town on D1... No need to find all the scummers.


How am I supposed to do that when I have no reads and no thread presence?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 23 2013 08:06 GMT
#1960
Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents.

DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine.

On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 23 2013 08:35 GMT
#1963
On September 23 2013 17:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents.

DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine.

On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that?

There is a giant mark on your head. Try to be as useful as possible please. You said you read all filters multiple times, try to give some reads. Townreads, nullreads, things that you think are suspicious.
Anything. Feel free to spam everything that comes to mind.


Typing with one hand I manage about 5-6 WPM (instead of the usual 70+, it's quite frustrating really...) so I won't be able to spam even if I try, but I'll try to find something once I'm done with my Scala assignments.

Anyone in particular I should look into first?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 24 2013 19:06 GMT
#2942
I'm not against lynching either of Sentinel or FirmTofu, but I think I would still prefer Umasi. He's "kind of participating" but hasn't really said much anything at all.



Regarding Cephiro:

The apathy in itself is not alignment indicative; I checked some of his earlier games and in those he was active and involved both as scum and town.

On September 24 2013 11:44 Cephiro wrote:That said, we really need to lynch scum today. And since I'm still alive, I'm going to do my best to ensure that happens. Not too far from having read the whole thread properly either.


Where did you disappear? Been a long time since that post, and I know you're not away from your computer...




On September 25 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:The only thing that makes me not 100% scum on him is the potential he's just overwhelmed, but in that case, he's made no effort to explain that and there is no justifiable reason for his


I don't usually bother to explain much since in my experience it just gets one lynched, but since you asked: I'm having some pretty big IRL issues both physically and mentally due to my injury.

And I feel like a bronze player dropped into grand master league.




Please update the first post with current players after the replacements and new deadline.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 24 2013 19:31 GMT
#2944
On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter.


Your thoughts on Sentinel?
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