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On September 24 2013 08:22 Mattchew wrote:
marv im reading like 20 pages can you do me a favor in the meantime.
im a little out of the loop on tl mafia, can you list who the experienced players are in this game, i know most i think but i want a full list
Research your own night-kills friend...I'll have no part in it.
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In that post you quoted, FT gave no opinions on either my OR DP's alignment. That post is SUPER easy to make as scum, especially if DP and I are both town, because it gives nothing of his own opinions, yet could easily influence the opinions of others. I find nothing townie about that post Kush. Just throwing that out there.
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On September 24 2013 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 08:22 Mattchew wrote:
marv im reading like 20 pages can you do me a favor in the meantime.
im a little out of the loop on tl mafia, can you list who the experienced players are in this game, i know most i think but i want a full list I can do this! I can do this! players who I have seen around a lot recently: DP rayn WoS Koshi (sort of) yamato Chairman Ray Pandain Coag Sent VE Geript VA Risen marv mattc of them, players I have seen play well in recent memory: rayn wos VE VA Risen Marv
I know what you're doing you sly dog. If you could kindly tell me who you're doing it for, I would really appreciate it.
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On September 24 2013 08:29 kushm4sta wrote:
in a shit ton of posts ft goes super in depth about his thought process. scum dont do that shit
I disagree, fundamentally. If town do that, then scum do that to try and look town.
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On September 24 2013 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 24 2013 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:On September 24 2013 08:22 Mattchew wrote:
marv im reading like 20 pages can you do me a favor in the meantime.
im a little out of the loop on tl mafia, can you list who the experienced players are in this game, i know most i think but i want a full list I can do this! I can do this! players who I have seen around a lot recently: DP rayn WoS Koshi (sort of) yamato Chairman Ray Pandain Coag Sent VE Geript VA Risen marv mattc of them, players I have seen play well in recent memory: rayn wos VE VA Risen Marv I know what you're doing you sly dog. If you could kindly tell me who you're doing it for, I would really appreciate it. I think you might be operating on a higher level than me. I made that post because I haven't caught up yet and it's something I can do. What am I doing?
No I get ya. Trying to be "useful". Got it. *wink* Trying to "help out a fellow townie in need". *wink wink*
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On September 24 2013 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 24 2013 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:On September 24 2013 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 24 2013 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:On September 24 2013 08:22 Mattchew wrote:
marv im reading like 20 pages can you do me a favor in the meantime.
im a little out of the loop on tl mafia, can you list who the experienced players are in this game, i know most i think but i want a full list I can do this! I can do this! players who I have seen around a lot recently: DP rayn WoS Koshi (sort of) yamato Chairman Ray Pandain Coag Sent VE Geript VA Risen marv mattc of them, players I have seen play well in recent memory: rayn wos VE VA Risen Marv I know what you're doing you sly dog. If you could kindly tell me who you're doing it for, I would really appreciate it. I think you might be operating on a higher level than me. I made that post because I haven't caught up yet and it's something I can do. What am I doing? No I get ya. Trying to be "useful". Got it. *wink* Trying to "help out a fellow townie in need". *wink wink* Well if you got any pointers for me on my re-read, let me know?
No let it flow sir. I want your unbiased, objective opinion of the gamestate. Replacements are OP for town because of this, and I don't want to ruin it.
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Mattchew for the record, anything I'm capable of as town I'm capable of as scum. It's what makes me so dangerous as scum.
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On September 24 2013 08:41 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew for the record, anything I'm capable of as town I'm capable of as scum. It's what makes me so dangerous as scum. no, but you keep believing that
WHAT DID YOU SAY MATTCHEW?! SCUM WON LI MATTCHEW!!
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On September 24 2013 08:42 Mattchew wrote:
marv feels like hes playing with no fear of being shot... thats weird as hell
Marv always plays like that because he always plays for medic protection regardless of alignment. It's why he hates the Weak Doctor role. What's weird about it?
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Everyone should always post as if they're not gonna get shot. If everyone did, then scum would have a REALLY REALLY hard time keeping up.
Anyway, the question becomes: do you think he's scum or don't you? After saying it and then explaining the thought-process behind it, you never really gave me a conclusion. I find that WAY weirder than anything marv's doing.
And by weird, I mean scummy. 
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On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game wave should be medic'd DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch Mocsta is clearly town i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker this FT post is long but literally says nothing. + Show Spoiler +On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Finally got some decent reads. :D
Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.
As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.
We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.
Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.
Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used.
Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned.
Yeah, I'm not sure why I thought you were undecided or unsure about marv's alignment. :/
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I'm not, but I'll try and show it more clearly moving forward. 
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On September 24 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew for the record, anything I'm capable of as town I'm capable of as scum. It's what makes me so dangerous as scum. I really hate posts like this. DP does that shit all the time too. And marv. Stop making posts like this people, they do not help anyone make any sort of read into you.
Well he's saying I'm town for shitty reasons. 
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On September 24 2013 09:15 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 24 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 24 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew for the record, anything I'm capable of as town I'm capable of as scum. It's what makes me so dangerous as scum. I really hate posts like this. DP does that shit all the time too. And marv. Stop making posts like this people, they do not help anyone make any sort of read into you. Well he's saying I'm town for shitty reasons. or not, and you are just thinking very highly of yourself
No I like my interpretation better. Not surprisingly.
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Is Cephiro a better vig shot than BH Wave?
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On September 24 2013 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Is Cephiro a better vig shot than BH Wave? In my opinion, yes, though it might be due to personal bias. I can follow BH pretty damn well whereas Ceph I have only played in one game with him and was particularly invested in what he had to say. BH has an excuse for not posting a great deal thus far since he wasn't actually IN the game and I ACTUALLY expect him to follow up. Ceph I have no idea whether he will or not. Why do you ask, my dear?
Because BH posted an even more useless list and has done far less than Cephiro. Yes, he's had less time, but I find it hard to believe that an entire night cycle passes in which he says nothing as town when he's known as a decent player. :/
I mean, I guess maybe my expectations could be too high for the guy, but I just have a hard time seeing town in BH's play so far.
That being said I agree with you: between the two I'd say Ceph is a better Vig target, but ONLY because BH is replacing in and I love to hear the opinions of external viewpoints when trying to figure out the game.
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Granted. I'm eagerly awaiting is input.
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Kush:
Full read on Coag in 50 words or less. Go.
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On September 24 2013 09:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 09:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kush:
Full read on Coag in 50 words or less. Go. lol.
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On September 24 2013 09:57 geript wrote:
Since we're narrowing down on the deadline... I think. I just wanted to be up front for realz. I'm not shooting DP. or FT. or Onegu. It's not for lack of desire. It's for lack of bullets; I mean I personally am not shooting blanks, but in the game I have neither a gun nor blanks. I just figured that it gives a quite good alternate way to read/medic people if appropriate and I hope DP comes back and shit. All that said, I would hope that DP would've had much more faith in me but after aperature I guess not. I'm still not happy with his replacing out and I still feel like he's getting a freebie town pass from most people inexplicably.
Surprise
Not really - you're a Palmar fanboy and that's like his signature move.
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