• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:19
CEST 16:19
KST 23:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out2RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3620 users

TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 Next All
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#3564
On September 26 2013 06:07 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:45 Pandain wrote:
On September 26 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pandain is a decent lynch. His case on me D1 was very wrong and misconstrued many posts to paint me as suspicious. He has a case on Sentinel D1, and D2 he puts more suspicion on Sentinel then says he is hesitant to lynch him in the same post... He wants to kill Stutters too but I haven't see much of that. Stutters seemed pretty town to me at some point, I remember thinking "Stutters isn't being completely useless and bad, that's different, probably stepping it up as town".

Ceph is just a lurker lynch, which is cool.

I'll vote Pandain for great justice!

##Vote: Pandain


This is a great misinterpetation of my post I was going over Sentinel more day 2 because Yamato was still wanting to lynch me. I shared my thoughts on the matter. He played extremely suspiciously day one but day two is extremely town-like and town-mindset.

If you think my goal was to say he's scum, you're wrong. My conclusion was based on his play in day two, he is town. I assume his day one was simply atrocious. He also somewhat adequeately explained his Ray vote, which is one of the main reasons I was suspicious he's scum. I have found only one reason to be suspicious of his play after the first day, which I explained in my post.

People say I have not been pushing anybody. This is clearly wrong. I pushed Sentinel day one, you guys simply didn't listen and I had to work on studies. All my posts have a purpose, in either seeing how someone reacts or seeing if they are actually having reasons for what they do. Or sometimes just help thread. AKA Gertrip vote.

My marv vote was along the same lines, but worse. I was hoping to generate discussion on him and see how people felt, my sleep deprived brain was suspicious of him yesterday but I think there are better options.

I have pushed Stutters and said I would lynch him. My only caveat was that I would feel bad.

I have pushed OO in the beggining because he was playing suspicious for reasons I stated, mainly seeming constructed in his posts and contradicting himself by voting Coag when he says he wants to lynch an inactive. From there, I found out more of his reasoning and now understand he doesn't understand how Coag plays. t

I attempted to get Vayne saved who was clearly town.
I have pushed Cheesecake, and still wonder why others don't analyze him. He lurked almost the entirety of day two
Why have you been absent? He hasn't done shit and is actually guilty of the reasons Marv is accusing me. All he has done is talk about me and eventually vote me for reasons which are weak as I've already stated. Marv, I want your reads on Cheesecake now and why you feel I am more suspicious than him since I assume you have ready every filter.

If you think I'm lurking, you're wrong. I use my time the best I can. I will soon talk about someone I am suspicious of the most, only reason I don't say his name is because I don't want him to start fake contributing now as a response to initial suspicions.

There is no reason I am scum, I am in fact surprised by the accusations, and further surprised by the weak reasoning.

For my firm post, I was saying that the way he posts it will be easier to decide if he's scum later. I'm not saying that he is scum now but we should go after someone else. I think he is too much a combination of town/mafia for me to decide on him, and want to wait until later. That is not scum. That is town.


Still reading

But

Where did I vote coag? If I did I am an idiot. If you're lying your read is fake. Wow.


This was his main reason in voting for me. Even though it makes no sense because Coag was inactive, I think he's mixed the two of us up scumread-wise OO xD
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:11 GMT
#3568
On September 26 2013 06:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Panda is probably a bad lynch.

Now that I think about it, if he pushed Sentinel D1 they (probably) aren't both mafia. If panda is mafia and sent town, he could have just pushed a sent lynch through because he was a target of high suspicion coming into D2.

It seems like everyone in the thread has a scumread of some sort on LM, but nobody wants to lynch him T.T

And in light of previous why are you making shit up about last game and also defending the guy making shit up about me? Fuck


Wtf OO? What did I make up about the last game?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:22 GMT
#3596
On September 26 2013 06:18 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 06:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:09 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Panda is probably a bad lynch.

Now that I think about it, if he pushed Sentinel D1 they (probably) aren't both mafia. If panda is mafia and sent town, he could have just pushed a sent lynch through because he was a target of high suspicion coming into D2.

It seems like everyone in the thread has a scumread of some sort on LM, but nobody wants to lynch him T.T

And in light of previous why are you making shit up about last game and also defending the guy making shit up about me? Fuck


Wtf OO? What did I make up about the last game?

I was the shittastic teammate last game. Everyone else was good. Lol


You were shittastic, that is besides the point. My point is that most of the team lurked and was useless in the grand scheme of things. Felkyr, you, randombum, coag... austin day 1-2 and 'till the end of 3, 'slam who was obv mafia but nobody lynched him because he was an easy target. Only clarity was a town influence, and myself to a certain extent. Austin in the latter part.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:26 GMT
#3605
On September 26 2013 06:24 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 06:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:18 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:09 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Panda is probably a bad lynch.

Now that I think about it, if he pushed Sentinel D1 they (probably) aren't both mafia. If panda is mafia and sent town, he could have just pushed a sent lynch through because he was a target of high suspicion coming into D2.

It seems like everyone in the thread has a scumread of some sort on LM, but nobody wants to lynch him T.T

And in light of previous why are you making shit up about last game and also defending the guy making shit up about me? Fuck


Wtf OO? What did I make up about the last game?

I was the shittastic teammate last game. Everyone else was good. Lol


You were shittastic, that is besides the point. My point is that most of the team lurked and was useless in the grand scheme of things. Felkyr, you, randombum, coag... austin day 1-2 and 'till the end of 3, 'slam who was obv mafia but nobody lynched him because he was an easy target. Only clarity was a town influence, and myself to a certain extent. Austin in the latter part.

Oh shit that's right there were 7 of us in that game. I channeled my rage at you. Sorry. You want some coffee and a German cookie?


8.German cookie sounds good. I'm mad at Pandain for shittastic cases on both of us too, but does that make him scum necessarily?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#3611
On September 26 2013 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 06:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:24 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:18 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:09 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Panda is probably a bad lynch.

Now that I think about it, if he pushed Sentinel D1 they (probably) aren't both mafia. If panda is mafia and sent town, he could have just pushed a sent lynch through because he was a target of high suspicion coming into D2.

It seems like everyone in the thread has a scumread of some sort on LM, but nobody wants to lynch him T.T

And in light of previous why are you making shit up about last game and also defending the guy making shit up about me? Fuck


Wtf OO? What did I make up about the last game?

I was the shittastic teammate last game. Everyone else was good. Lol


You were shittastic, that is besides the point. My point is that most of the team lurked and was useless in the grand scheme of things. Felkyr, you, randombum, coag... austin day 1-2 and 'till the end of 3, 'slam who was obv mafia but nobody lynched him because he was an easy target. Only clarity was a town influence, and myself to a certain extent. Austin in the latter part.

Oh shit that's right there were 7 of us in that game. I channeled my rage at you. Sorry. You want some coffee and a German cookie?


8.German cookie sounds good. I'm mad at Pandain for shittastic cases on both of us too, but does that make him scum necessarily?

You focus on me too much. What are your other thoughts


I'm trying to calm OO down about you, problem? I can let him rage and vote you if you'd like.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:32 GMT
#3619
Cephiro played really actively at lylo in Aperture. Well he didn't know it was lylo but it was. He trolled most of D1 but really picked up his town play later on D2 and so forth.

Hi cephiro, you're about to get lynched what say you?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 21:55 GMT
#3658
On September 26 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhhhhhhhhh.....uuhhhhhhhhh......

That's.......not townlike from marv.


23 pages of filter I hope he's town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:05 GMT
#3673
Lol @ Golden sun
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:23 GMT
#3676
It's easier to post as mafia, for me anyway O.o
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#3680
On September 26 2013 07:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 07:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
It's easier to post as mafia, for me anyway O.o

Because you bus like a boss you fucking bussing busser. Easier to post when you know you're right, is it?


Well as mafia i can never be wrong. If I lynch town that's good for me and I don't feel bad. I can laugh like a maniac in the scum QT. If I lynch mafia I can also feel good because towncred and i probably didn't like the guy I was lynching anyway :D
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#3682
On September 26 2013 07:26 ObviousOne wrote:
Did I ever say if I think geript is town or scum? IDR. I probably said town if anything, but you just went null.
That was scummy . Thanks for helping mafia by throwing away your vote in a plurality.


+1
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:31 GMT
#3686
Does Geript have a confirmed shot anywhere?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:43 GMT
#3698
The thing is I'm so not confident as town.

And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!"

The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch?

LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here?

And Koshi, please fuck off kindly.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 23:20 GMT
#3735
Why am I a strong townread for Cephiro?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#3751
I'm content sitting my ass on LoneMeow until someone can convince me that another person is scum.

JAT -- Post it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 23:32 GMT
#3761
we have 19 other townies, people shouldn't be dying with 5 votes.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 23:38 GMT
#3772
This is actually retarded.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#3777
Gogo modkills, hit a bunch of scum!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 23:45 GMT
#3792
I don't see a reason that posting that will get you modkilled.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 26 2013 00:14 GMT
#3819
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:
i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum

my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game

wave should be medic'd

DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch

Mocsta is clearly town

i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker

this FT post is long but literally says nothing.

no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough


I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway.




LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu


However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie.




Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm parity cop

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro



Who's this guy?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
12:00
Qualifier #2
PiGStarcraft744
TKL 175
IndyStarCraft 169
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SHIN 1046
PiGStarcraft744
mouzHeroMarine 473
Classic 267
ByuN (SOOP) 223
Maru 194
herO (SOOP) 193
TKL 175
IndyStarCraft 169
Rogue 116
Cure 116
Trap 72
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3516
Bisu 2477
Jaedong 1581
EffOrt 1207
firebathero 832
Mini 731
Soulkey 453
Light 396
Hyuk 389
Stork 267
[ Show more ]
Snow 255
hero 135
Rush 132
Sharp 105
Killer 102
Sea.KH 83
Barracks 76
Pusan 65
soO 43
Free 35
sorry 25
Terrorterran 20
yabsab 20
Rock 18
Sexy 17
IntoTheRainbow 15
zelot 13
Icarus 10
Dota 2
qojqva2334
Dendi1703
XBOCT1465
Counter-Strike
byalli1154
kRYSTAL_50
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King52
Other Games
singsing1607
hiko776
B2W.Neo472
crisheroes286
Liquid`LucifroN214
Sick189
Liquid`VortiX121
KnowMe91
Livibee75
Mlord71
QueenE70
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV495
League of Legends
• Nemesis1434
• TFBlade658
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
9h 41m
Replay Cast
18h 41m
Kung Fu Cup
20h 41m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
OSC
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-10
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.