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[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 22 2013 22:17 GMT

#1522

On September 23 2013 07:11 yamato77 wrote:

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I think if you read his posts, he has a clear understanding of what's happening in the game.

I just read his entire filter and he looks exactly like a guy who's playing his second (second? can't be more than fourth since he was previously in a newbie, someone confirm this) game. I don't see what would make him scummy.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 22 2013 22:19 GMT

#1525

On September 23 2013 07:13 ObviousOne wrote:

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You're calling Umasi scum for something you are doing yourself, is what I'm implying, if my reading comprehension is working.

Umasi pushed a LM lynch then got off when he couldn't find anything to push him with. I was never on the LM wagon to start with.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 22 2013 22:21 GMT

#1528

On September 23 2013 07:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Sent what's your case on Yamato? I see the reasoning as "third scum read" and that was it.

On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 22 2013 22:27 GMT

#1541

On September 23 2013 07:23 yamato77 wrote:

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On September 23 2013 07:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On September 23 2013 07:11 yamato77 wrote:

On September 23 2013 07:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On September 23 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:

On September 23 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On September 23 2013 06:52 ObviousOne wrote:

On September 23 2013 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

On September 23 2013 06:45 ObviousOne wrote:

On September 23 2013 06:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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5*

In which game was that? Smurf? I posted the bare minimum to keep up and piggybacked on other people's reads

And yet you looked town! I can't say that here.

That's like job #1, right?

Bullshit I looked town. I tunneled Eccleston, showed up only when someone knew I was missing, tried my hardest not to look suspicious, and the only reason I stayed alive as long as I did was because I defended myself decently well and nobody could pin anything on me.

That's also what I did in Roulette which I played concurrently IIRC, with Vayne swapped in for Eccleston

Lol fuck

Maybe you looked town because I knew you were town (as PT2.0). Let me get to my computer, do some reading. If not you, then who? Is it you vs Koshi and some Chairman Ray campaigners?

Well there's yamato but that's out of the question for you, right?

And then there's LoneMeow bandwagon, but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment.

If you seriously think I am mafia, you need to explain yourself better than you have so far.

What I don't understand is how you easily rule out the possibility that Ray does truly have no idea what's going on, and the difficulty with coming up with arguments other than sheeping the easiest lynch is a symptom of that problem. Yes, it would be a scumread in a more experienced player, but looking at Ray's profile history he's come out of a newbie game recently. I don't get why you don't pursue your other reads more.

I think if you read his posts, he has a clear understanding of what's happening in the game.

"I think he's noob/bad town" is a bad excuse for ignoring what is ultimately quite scummy play.

Explain how his fluff posts and weak scumreads are more likely to come from noob town than noob scum. The latter is a real option, mind you, and the one that I tend to gravitate toward.

I don't think it's more likely to come from noob town, I'm saying he's neither town nor scum based on his current posting. You're not just gravitating towards the scum option, you're flat out blocking all other avenues by saying Ray's the most probable scum, and thus voting for him.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 22 2013 22:30 GMT

#1544

On September 23 2013 07:23 ObviousOne wrote:

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This coffee still hasn't hit my brain so you can confirm/deny this so I can have it straight:

Umasi: Intent to vote LM --> no support --> drops it
Sentinel: Intent to vote LM --> LM not here to defend himself --> drops it

I am drawing this parallel, but I am also noting that you called Umasi scum for it. So does that QED you are scum?

Umasi DID vote for LM.

Here is my statements on LM:

which means I'm really interested in what's going on with him.

but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment.

What I'm saying is that LM isn't scummy enough for my vote. He was, obviously, for Umasi because he voted for him.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 00:21 GMT

#1677

On September 23 2013 09:06 Koshi wrote:
marv, you work so slow. I need to know who to vote for so I can go to bed.

LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something.
Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol.
Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about.
FT, Sentinel: meh.

Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot.

Why 1/5 specifically?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 00:23 GMT

#1679

On September 23 2013 09:22 Koshi wrote:

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30 peepz, 6 scum, 1/5 scum, 5 lurkers, 1 scum.

I think I should clarify - why would there only be one scum among the 5 lurkers? Assuming you don't have townreads on everybody, there could still be multiple scum in the lurker section, or none at all.

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 00:32 GMT

#1688

On September 23 2013 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm catching up - I'm watching WWZ with the wife.

How convenient, I'm watching it with my dad right now

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 00:39 GMT

#1699

After reviewing Chairman's filter, I have to agree that something is up here. Maybe a little south of neutral in my eyes. Might it be a product of coaching in the newbie game and nothing in this one?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:10 GMT

#1736

On September 23 2013 09:46 yamato77 wrote:
If sentinel's vote stays on me, I will gladly switch to him and murder him as well.

Murdered is something I don't intend on

##unvote

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:38 GMT

#1758

On September 23 2013 10:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Deadline is in approximately 30 minutes

OP said deadline was at 10 PST?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:39 GMT

#1759

hit us up with a votecount if you can pls

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:43 GMT

#1766

I'm reading Ray's filter from newbie, he seems a lot more restricted here than there which is weird. Unless coaches were really on meth (holy shit I was coaching? nobody sent me any questions, I forgot all about it), I can't really say why he would regress in his ability to post substance.

Better than yamato I guess.

##Vote: Chairman Ray

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:44 GMT

#1769

But why would he regress?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:46 GMT

#1772

On September 23 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I was referring to Stutters by bad fucking play with his last post.

Oh whoops.

Congrats on arbiter

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:49 GMT

#1775

On September 23 2013 10:48 Chairman Ray wrote:

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I actually did want to follow up on it, but given that he's not falling for the easy lynch train on me, the little time I have is focused on better targets.

Who would these better targets be?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

September 23 2013 01:56 GMT

#1786

On September 23 2013 10:55 Mocsta wrote:
hmm i thougth sentinel joined the lynch. but his vote isnt there .. its on stutters

maybei was confused.

Wait what? I'm pretty sure I voted for ray...