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On September 22 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 23:57 Stutters695 wrote:On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 23:07 kushm4sta wrote:
becuse you talked when you said you cant talk Have you turned a new leaf or something? Since when do you care as town? So I'm awake. Can you clarify this for me Mocsta. I got that you're implying that a caring kush is a scum kush, but this post imply you think he's town. Can you explain what's different about him this time to why you think he's town instead of scum? Is this a serious question? Out of everything in the thread, you are pulling up this quote; and completely taking it out of context? WTF Comeback when you have read the game... NOT a good start for you.
Chill Moc, it's not that huge. I still don't get why you like DP at all. Either way lets move on a new subject some, can you fully explain why you don't like my wubbybumpkins? I have lots of little reservations about him.
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On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me? How about we lynch you instead? Don't be bad plz. Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum. You can thank me once he flips red. If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again.
Lol. DP not only are you bad, you're also scum. Tough titties.
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On September 22 2013 02:20 DarthPunk wrote:
##Vote: Geript
Die.
There's no way you lynch me. And then you die night 1 when I shoot you in the face. Enjoy bish.
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On September 22 2013 02:35 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me? How about we lynch you instead? Don't be bad plz. Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum. You can thank me once he flips red. If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again. I didn't call you bad, I asked you not to be bad, implying you will be if you try to lynch me. I even said plz, that's pretty nice. Do you disagree with what I said about Kush? No. But When you popped in the thread with a one liner asking to lynch an active kush you should reasonably expect people to take issue with it. I think your case is OK. I'm not sure how much scum hunting kush does in the first half of day one usually though or what threshold kush's non-scum hunting becomes flying under the radar intentionally. So while you're case is good and the thought process is solid I'm not sure if kush is scum or just Kush and therefore I probably don't want to lynch him yet.
Blah blah. I still refuse to take an actual stance. Blah blah
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On September 22 2013 02:39 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 02:38 geript wrote:On September 22 2013 02:35 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me? How about we lynch you instead? Don't be bad plz. Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum. You can thank me once he flips red. If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again. I didn't call you bad, I asked you not to be bad, implying you will be if you try to lynch me. I even said plz, that's pretty nice. Do you disagree with what I said about Kush? No. But When you popped in the thread with a one liner asking to lynch an active kush you should reasonably expect people to take issue with it. I think your case is OK. I'm not sure how much scum hunting kush does in the first half of day one usually though or what threshold kush's non-scum hunting becomes flying under the radar intentionally. So while you're case is good and the thought process is solid I'm not sure if kush is scum or just Kush and therefore I probably don't want to lynch him yet. Blah blah. I still refuse to take an actual stance. Blah blah Don't talk to me please. I don't want to hear it and I don't want to be baited into more shit flinging with you. Which is clearly your intention.
So calling you out for not taking anything but the safest easiest stance and not taking any other stance on anything period is baiting you? RTFT. You just don't want to be called to the table for your shit.
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To Marv. Your read on DP... Gogogogo
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Why does everyone forget that I was the first person to call out my wubbybumpkins.
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On September 22 2013 03:15 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:14 geript wrote:
Why does everyone forget that I was the first person to call out my wubbybumpkins. You could give an updated read on WoS, and perhaps reads on other players in the game. You know, like I asked you to do.
There hasn't been a reason to upgrade or downgrade him from suspicious. He didn't engage me at all despite the fight with DP. Plus he bypassed the whole fight entirely. And he didn't give a reason for not engaging the common topic.
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On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me.
Nah he's townie because of MocLogic from post 2.
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On September 22 2013 17:54 FirmTofu wrote:I understand that meta cases aren't always the best. That's why I haven't made a case on DP and pushed him like an inbred retard (see:geript). I am simply posting my thoughts, nothing more, nothing less.
At least there's a clear causative agent in my retardation. Unfortunately for us, you stupidity is by choice.
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Nah. Just caught up. FT looks like scum and I could join that parade. I still like WoS for scum. Otherwise naw. I'll read after D&D.
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Ok I'm back. I've been keeping up reading but not much else.
People I think are town for various reasons:
Koshi
Mocsta
Yamato
Marv
Rayn
People I'm happy to see lynched
DarthPunk--Obv scum
Tofu--hella weird game, I'm leaning towards scum over super butthurt
Vayne--GTFO 2 posts not even attempting to play the game. If I were a host I'd modkill him and ask for a ban for not even trying to play
WoS--I don't see him really taking any sort of responsibility in this game and that's something I associate with his town play and something I caught onto in his last game (3P) I'd be happy with a lynch there. Plus, he hasn't been bitching about the complete lurkage or really trying to push me either direction. Would shoot after DP.
Complete Lurker List
Xzavier
Cephiro
Zenatsu
gumshoe
Onegu
I'm betting that there's 2-3 scum in this list so the "safe lynch" would be among these guys as I'm mostly ok with everyone's posting.
People I want to see more out of:
Pandain--Just crazy shit left and right; feels like he's disinterested which makes far more sense from a scum perspective right now
Chairman--All I see is a mental struggle in what/how to post but that's something I expect. Need more thought process.
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Oh yah, and I didn't get a towny feel from Mattchew but i forget why.
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On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100?
Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.
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On September 23 2013 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
geript, can you explain your Mocsta read please?
He's using Moc logic which is something he only does as town.
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On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming. I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that  Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi?
FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though.
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On September 23 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things. No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?' I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give.
Not in my opinion. How I see it is like me you care but don't want to.
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On September 23 2013 08:22 yamato77 wrote:
geript, MocLogic is not a good enough explanation.
Yes it is. Moc uses specific sets of heuristics as town and completely different sets of heuristics as scum always and forever. Moc is fine.
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On September 23 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:20 geript wrote:On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming. I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi? FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though. Could you do me a favour and try to have a quick look? I can't imagine where it would be and it would be super helpful.
Here and Here. Maybe not as pronounced as I remember but I can at least understand basic illogical bias against Umasi based on history as I would basic bias against me since I seem to roll scum a bunch.
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