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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#903
On September 22 2013 07:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 07:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pandains case is a bunch of misunderstandings tbh.

I never defended him, nor did I not do what i said prior. I can debunk the post in about 5 minutes at my comp, not really concered about it. On phone atm if anyone has simple questions.

Then why do you feel the need to tell us?


Because im bored and at work but its hard to do things via phone that are more than one sentence.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 21 2013 22:50 GMT
#942
On September 22 2013 07:21 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 07:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pandains case is a bunch of misunderstandings tbh.

I never defended him, nor did I not do what i said prior. I can debunk the post in about 5 minutes at my comp, not really concered about it. On phone atm if anyone has simple questions.


Yes I would like you to explain.

Also why you feel like voting Coag versus what you said about going for inactives.


I'll try to do this on my phone as best I can. Just cannot quote at all.

I'll dissect the case into three points, maybe there are more i can remember.1) I assumed DP was town when talking of Geript. 2) I defended Pandain 3) I say i wanted to lynch inactive but dont follow through.

Essentially, #1 is true. I assumed DP as town if im talking of geript in the scum light. If geript is scum, he is ballsy to go after DP regardless of DPs alignment. Bus lor not, but DP would likely be town in this case. In context DPs alignment is irrelevant because its geript who was being scummy. I assume he would be town if geript scum.

#2 and #3 are not true. I did not defend Pandain. I even heralded people like Mocsta pressuring him because that was scummy behavior. I was calling out LM for calling out mocsta for calling out pandain, really. I keep asking why coag thinks pandain is scum because i want coag to speak and give reasoning instead od hiding in the shadows. He mentions pandain as mafia but never says why its scummy behavior.

Similarly, I did follow through on my inactive lynch. Coag is low volume poster and was such in my scumteam. This is similar behavior, he hasnt done anything which equals inactive. LM is also pseudo inactive and i could lynch him. By inactive i dont mean those who have 0 posts, i mean those who are clearly there but have 1-4 posts of uselessness.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 21 2013 23:22 GMT
#979
On September 22 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 07:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 22 2013 07:53 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 22 2013 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 22 2013 07:51 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 22 2013 07:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 22 2013 07:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 22 2013 07:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I have to parrot rayn here though and say that the longer it goes between his "I'm catching up" post and something with some substance, the worse he looks though.

Not what I was getting at but I'm fine with the suspicion.

Yes I'm aware it wasn't what you were getting at. I asked you what you were getting at and you said later.

I'm just telling you where I stand because you mentioned him.

Where's Kush? VE is emphasizing words and I want to know if this further confirms or conflates his previously stated townish read.

They're italicized rather than capitalized OO. You're safe.

Or are you?

It's debatable. I have a fever. Things are warped slightly. Please make Pandain piss in someone else's cheerios. Give me your thoughts on CC?

I have a hard time reading CC because he so damn sexy. He's at least contributing, and I think that's enough to not kill him today...much like Mocsta before him. Leaning town until he does something I really don't like.

I need to see him in an argument with Not-Pandain to decide. Preferably a big messy one. Then I will judge him. If it helps I came to the same conclusion for opposite reasons.

What it really boils down to is that he's not trolly enough for an easy town read. I see him closer to his scum self than what I remember of his town game.

Actually the more I think about it, he hasn't done the whole "bus my entire team all day every day" routine. Fuck it. Town from me as well.


How do you know I'm not bussing coag/LM?

Look at aperture d1. Felkyr and alakaslam were my punching bags.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#998
OO is obviously town btw, and he is echoing exactly what i'm thinking. /buddy OO

Writeup with logic in 3-4 hours after work.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 14:35 GMT
#1245
Last night I had the suspicion that Zaragon was mafia because most of his posts were filled with fluff and didn't come to a solid conclusion. Obvious-town ObviousOne was being a boss and pointing it out. Still, I don't think I've seen anything from him that indicates a strong stance on someone or anything that has an edge to it. His posts feel constructed to me but don't do a whole lot.

Anyone have a town game of Zaragon I can read?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 14:44 GMT
#1254
On September 22 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 23:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Last night I had the suspicion that Zaragon was mafia because most of his posts were filled with fluff and didn't come to a solid conclusion. Obvious-town ObviousOne was being a boss and pointing it out. Still, I don't think I've seen anything from him that indicates a strong stance on someone or anything that has an edge to it. His posts feel constructed to me but don't do a whole lot.

Anyone have a town game of Zaragon I can read?

Zaragon is signed up for the latest newbie
and has liek 60 posts under his name

Maybe he has played on other forums?


CC, take on the yamato situation that unfolded like 2-3 pages ago.

Does his absence affect that read?


I'm gutreading Yamato as town. He doesn't always use the best logic in the world, but when he's town it shines fairly brightly. I don't really know what you mean by his absence affecting my read.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:05 GMT
#1274
I'm 100% okay with lynching LoneMeow, Zaragon, Stutters (lol), maybe Coag.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:06 GMT
#1275
Pandains play was pretty townie, but his conclusion on me / OO being scummy was really bad. 1) I'm town 2) OO is super townread for me
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:10 GMT
#1277
On September 23 2013 00:06 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 00:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm 100% okay with lynching LoneMeow, Zaragon, Stutters (lol), maybe Coag.

*facepalm*

OK, so you got the gut read on yam.

You clearly read his last post.

You clearly read others retorts to that last post.

*Yam isn't on the scum list above*


Walk me through where I am going wrong with my read on Yam.


His scum meta just seems a lot different from his earlier postings. As soon as he entered the thread I was like "o hai, town yamato" Did the same thing in Aperture, and we had to shoot him fucking n1. NIGHT 1.

I didn't think his post was that scummy tbh, just bad.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:19 GMT
#1280
TL;DR version: DP stuff is bad. Chairman is a fine lynch, why not? Mocsta is butthurt.

I don't really care about Yamato right now. Even if he is scum, he'll show me in the latter parts of the game where he veritably falls apart (see: Persona).

I'm pretty indifferent who we lynch because everyone is just a name right now, and even the scummiest people will probably flip town because that's just how it works sometimes. Just don't lynch obvious town or really active dudes.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:38 GMT
#1287
Marv, take a gander at Zaragon's filter and tell me what you experience on the journey.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:46 GMT
#1290
On September 23 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Log Two

Journal, I wandered around the streets of Noire today, the town that I apparently currently reside in. There really is no system or order here, people simply shout insults freely and murder others in the street. It's a despicable state of affairs. I was lucky to only run into a few minor altercations as I mostly kept to myself. An old man who declared himself to be "Koshi" promptly called me scum and began spitting at me when I asked him for directions to where I could purchase food.

There seems to be an Australian gang that has a large hold over the town, and people regularly speak in fear of their members such as "Darthpunk" and "Mocsta." I'm pretty sure I heard a couple of kiwi sound voices in a back alleyway before I crossed the train tracks, it sounded like they were beating a man to death. I really hope my amnesia doesn't kick in if I ever hear an Australian accent again.

There was one bright spot in my day, a fair maiden who called herself "Rayn" offered me shelter and food while I collect my bearings, but warned me that I need to leave within three days and get out of this town. This is where I am currently writing from, and I've written notes everywhere to remind me why I am here.

It seems I am still far from finding my true purpose, but until then I must survive in this hell hole of a town. Good bye for now.


Okay now I want to lynch this guy.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:49 GMT
#1292
On September 23 2013 00:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 00:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
Log Two

Journal, I wandered around the streets of Noire today, the town that I apparently currently reside in. There really is no system or order here, people simply shout insults freely and murder others in the street. It's a despicable state of affairs. I was lucky to only run into a few minor altercations as I mostly kept to myself. An old man who declared himself to be "Koshi" promptly called me scum and began spitting at me when I asked him for directions to where I could purchase food.

There seems to be an Australian gang that has a large hold over the town, and people regularly speak in fear of their members such as "Darthpunk" and "Mocsta." I'm pretty sure I heard a couple of kiwi sound voices in a back alleyway before I crossed the train tracks, it sounded like they were beating a man to death. I really hope my amnesia doesn't kick in if I ever hear an Australian accent again.

There was one bright spot in my day, a fair maiden who called herself "Rayn" offered me shelter and food while I collect my bearings, but warned me that I need to leave within three days and get out of this town. This is where I am currently writing from, and I've written notes everywhere to remind me why I am here.

It seems I am still far from finding my true purpose, but until then I must survive in this hell hole of a town. Good bye for now.


Okay now I want to lynch this guy.

I was thinking the exact opposite


I was thinking the exact opposite of the opposite. Vayne are you going to be useful?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:53 GMT
#1297
On September 23 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 00:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Marv, take a gander at Zaragon's filter and tell me what you experience on the journey.


I've been following him reasonably closely already because he's a name I don't recognise. He's an interesting one, not totally sure what to think. Sometimes he meanders, sometimes he seems quite matter-of-fact in a way that mafia find quite hard to do I think. My only real read on him atm is "interesting".


I ask because last night, he posted something, and I said 'oh, it's this guys first post' in my head. Then I realized he had been posting the entire game. It feels like blending in the entire game because I haven't even noticed the guy.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#1298
EBWOP: How much can I attribute to simple newness to the game?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 15:59 GMT
#1301
On September 23 2013 00:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 00:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Marv, take a gander at Zaragon's filter and tell me what you experience on the journey.


I've been following him reasonably closely already because he's a name I don't recognise. He's an interesting one, not totally sure what to think. Sometimes he meanders, sometimes he seems quite matter-of-fact in a way that mafia find quite hard to do I think. My only real read on him atm is "interesting".


I ask because last night, he posted something, and I said 'oh, it's this guys first post' in my head. Then I realized he had been posting the entire game. It feels like blending in the entire game because I haven't even noticed the guy.


I'd noted his first post in the game down as being 'generic' and his 2nd as being 'weird'. I liked that he seemed to be on my wavelength about that Wave post I referenced (geddit).

Lynching someone today who at least seems to be trying seems kinda unwise tbh.


Well, that throws out a ton of potential candidates, and I mostly agree.

That means we're lynching LoneMeow, correct? I think Koshi is slightly-scummy considering his meta but I'd like to lynch a rather inactive scummy dude today.

##Vote: Lonemeow
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 16:02 GMT
#1304
I'm conflicted on Pandain. I think his 'bait' ninja vote is a clever move as either alignment... but his only large post of the game is almost certainly all wrong, considering OO is probably town imo. Wrong =/= mafia, but it came so out of left field and misconstrued a ton of posts. I'm butthurt, slightly.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 16:04 GMT
#1306
On September 23 2013 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 00:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:56 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 00:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Marv, take a gander at Zaragon's filter and tell me what you experience on the journey.


I've been following him reasonably closely already because he's a name I don't recognise. He's an interesting one, not totally sure what to think. Sometimes he meanders, sometimes he seems quite matter-of-fact in a way that mafia find quite hard to do I think. My only real read on him atm is "interesting".


I ask because last night, he posted something, and I said 'oh, it's this guys first post' in my head. Then I realized he had been posting the entire game. It feels like blending in the entire game because I haven't even noticed the guy.


I'd noted his first post in the game down as being 'generic' and his 2nd as being 'weird'. I liked that he seemed to be on my wavelength about that Wave post I referenced (geddit).

Lynching someone today who at least seems to be trying seems kinda unwise tbh.


Well, that throws out a ton of potential candidates, and I mostly agree.

That means we're lynching LoneMeow, correct? I think Koshi is slightly-scummy considering his meta but I'd like to lynch a rather inactive scummy dude today.

##Vote: Lonemeow


I'm going out shortly but I'll be back in ~6 hours to find a good lynch.

Players that come to mind as lynchable are Risen (seriously no-one cares that he has clearly been around but not doing anything?), Pandain (suspicions on Mr.C and OO look really misplaced, otherwise poor activity), Sentinel (weird opener, coag vote, lack of engagement), LoneMeow (reasons already given).

Maybe there's more but that's the general kinda pool I'm looking at right this minute


Oh, ninja'd.

Risen did the same thing as, admittedly 3P, in Aperture for D1. Keep him around for a while. Otherwise the other 3 seem OK for now.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 22 2013 16:06 GMT
#1309
On September 23 2013 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
It's kinda weird orientating yourself in a game where 5/30 people still haven't posted tbh.


And 6 of 30 are mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 23 2013 02:52 GMT
#1843
On September 23 2013 11:48 DarthPunk wrote:
NO FT HAD 6 FIRST AND THE HOSTS FLIPPED THE WRONG PLAYER


Hi guys just got home---->LOL

DP is town btw. Ray was an OK lynch from what I saw pre-work shift, idk much of what happened after. I did see that LoneMeow was martyring hard and nobody cared, why not lynch him? I request a vig.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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