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On September 22 2013 23:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 23:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 22 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote:On September 22 2013 23:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Last night I had the suspicion that Zaragon was mafia because most of his posts were filled with fluff and didn't come to a solid conclusion. Obvious-town ObviousOne was being a boss and pointing it out. Still, I don't think I've seen anything from him that indicates a strong stance on someone or anything that has an edge to it. His posts feel constructed to me but don't do a whole lot.
Anyone have a town game of Zaragon I can read? Zaragon is signed up for the latest newbie and has liek 60 posts under his name Maybe he has played on other forums?
CC, take on the yamato situation that unfolded like 2-3 pages ago. Does his absence affect that read? I'm gutreading Yamato as town. He doesn't always use the best logic in the world, but when he's town it shines fairly brightly. I don't really know what you mean by his absence affecting my read. He dropped 1 massively crafted post. Then left without waiting to see the responses or flesh things out via interaction with the thread. That in itself is scummy IMO.
i dont know what yamato is like as scum, but his play comes off to me more as "when you read my opinions you should just agree with them because they are that right"
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DP can we lynch stutters? please and thank you
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On September 22 2013 23:57 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 23:51 Mattchew wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 22 2013 23:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 23:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 22 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote:On September 22 2013 23:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Last night I had the suspicion that Zaragon was mafia because most of his posts were filled with fluff and didn't come to a solid conclusion. Obvious-town ObviousOne was being a boss and pointing it out. Still, I don't think I've seen anything from him that indicates a strong stance on someone or anything that has an edge to it. His posts feel constructed to me but don't do a whole lot.
Anyone have a town game of Zaragon I can read? Zaragon is signed up for the latest newbie and has liek 60 posts under his name Maybe he has played on other forums?
CC, take on the yamato situation that unfolded like 2-3 pages ago. Does his absence affect that read? I'm gutreading Yamato as town. He doesn't always use the best logic in the world, but when he's town it shines fairly brightly. I don't really know what you mean by his absence affecting my read. He dropped 1 massively crafted post. Then left without waiting to see the responses or flesh things out via interaction with the thread. That in itself is scummy IMO. i dont know what yamato is like as scum, but his play comes off to me more as "when you read my opinions you should just agree with them because they are that right" Yeah, but thats a relatively easy tell to produce as either alingment, especially when its your trademark. Just like DP being a tunnel machine as a trademark  --> Just Jokes Heres one for you. Some gave yam a town read because he "broke up the DP/Geript thing - "constructively". Do you classify that as an alignment indicative action?
no those people are bad
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I blue hunt as town but im not bad enough to post about it... I dont think its scummy, and if that is his intention its super bad scum play
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I dont like excuses for absence or whatever, but since i legitmately might not be around at lynch time i would like to say that im at the airport right now, my flight is in 3 hours and lands only an hour or so before lynch... Before i board i will vote and my vote will likely not change.. This also means im all phone posting
Aa flight 140 out of bwi
Anyway, can i get some more opinions on stutters (especially marv)
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Is it weird that gierpt or w.e is just gone after his whole fight with dp?
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I can agree with VE
##vote yamato
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Yamato i voted you to see how angry you would get... I dont sense the fury in that post
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Ps, wifi on the plane whats up
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Yamato what do you think of stutters
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Yam how early on did you think mocsta was scum?
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On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.
Wut
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Also wave im not basing it on just my vm games, its based on every person in the game saying you are confident as fuck regardless of alignment
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sisnt someone say that chaiurmann pwns town as scumn on a nother forum.... wtg whast that lnchy yo dumbasdsdsese
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marv im reading like 20 pages can you do me a favor in the meantime.
im a little out of the loop on tl mafia, can you list who the experienced players are in this game, i know most i think but i want a full list
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or VE you can do that list as well
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i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum
my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game
wave should be medic'd
DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch
Mocsta is clearly town
i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker
this FT post is long but literally says nothing.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Finally got some decent reads. :D
Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.
As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.
We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.
Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.
Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used.
Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned.
no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough
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On September 24 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
So, for some people I'm too much of a dick this game.
And for others, I'm too calm.
Got it.
the former are either very sensitive or not doing a good job
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On September 24 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew for the record, anything I'm capable of as town I'm capable of as scum. It's what makes me so dangerous as scum.
no, but you keep believing that
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