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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:00 GMT
#2593
lol wow
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:01 GMT
#2596
that's not helping BH
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:02 GMT
#2602
On September 24 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:57 geript wrote:
Since we're narrowing down on the deadline... I think. I just wanted to be up front for realz. I'm not shooting DP. or FT. or Onegu. It's not for lack of desire. It's for lack of bullets; I mean I personally am not shooting blanks, but in the game I have neither a gun nor blanks. I just figured that it gives a quite good alternate way to read/medic people if appropriate and I hope DP comes back and shit. All that said, I would hope that DP would've had much more faith in me but after aperature I guess not. I'm still not happy with his replacing out and I still feel like he's getting a freebie town pass from most people inexplicably.

Surprise

But see here's the thing.
I'm NOT surprised.
At all.
I am MORE surprised that DP let something as miniscule as your threats get to him.


This. It's why I was totally uninterested in the whole vig situation that DP was getting upset at me for not blowing my lid at geript. It's just... yeah.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#2605
On September 24 2013 10:01 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah yeah yeah man ok do i have 1 hour to the deadline or 2 hours


not really expecting you to post in any timeframe, I just want you to play the game with us dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:03 GMT
#2607
On September 24 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv I just realized something.
Dick move analysis on DP?


well, he's in my town column ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:05 GMT
#2612
Yeah, pretty much what I said too Wave.

Gotta stop agreeing with you really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 01:11 GMT
#2622
On September 24 2013 10:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:01 Risen wrote:
On September 24 2013 08:32 Pandain wrote:
I'll be back later tonight.

In case I (somehow) get shot before I come back, here is my last good read(and advice).


Emotion makes people towns

Basically read any analysis. Scum are the ones who are inherently afraid to post, while town doesn't have that limitation. Because of this, any scum post, unless they're on the verge of being lynched(or a scum mate is), is going to be forced post rather than a genuine one.

I think it's very hard to fake an emotion resulting from feeling bad this game. Mafia you don't even really feel bad, because you have a team to rest it on. You weren't playing bad, you were playing "well", simply as mafia. They didn't know.

But if you're town and others criticize you, that hurts.

Gertript is known for pulling off crazy tricks. Or at least, he did it in Aperture.
On September 24 2013 01:41 geript wrote:
On September 24 2013 01:26 Mocsta wrote:
Geript, mav/me still waiting.

I really wonder where the Geript I nk'd night1 in his first TL game disappeared to. I miss that guy R.I.P

I'm as good as how much time I put in. Just is what it is. IDK like I really don't feel great about my reads as I was pre-aperature. That said, everyone else who played and voted for me in aperature and was town were idiotic. I'm just not feeling this game and I think a large majority of scum are inactive.


This post is too genuine for me. First, scum don't say they don't feel the game as an excuse. Actually to be fair they definitely can, but I have never seen a scum use an excuse like that. Because scum actually do feel for the game, it is hard to post posts which go against directly what you believe.

To clarify further, being interested in the game(having a feel for it), and being interested in solving it are the two distinctions between emotion in mafia.

Is this clear?

Gertrip if you're reading this, I know how you feel. I felt exactly the same way in a weird Caller Japenese themed game. I was sure that Ace was scum but no one believed me. Eventually I was convinced I had no idea what to believe. And I hated it because I was confused.

Keep at it man, and look at Palmar. He improved so much despite people constantly shit-talking him. Don't give up, and look at other people besides DP. I don't think shooting him is a good idea, even if you think he's mafia, because he is so strong later on.


My gameplay from every game I've ever played in invalidates this.

Hmm....

Risen with a very good point.
Marv is Pandain scum?


Could well be. See my list :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 14:31 GMT
#2797
On September 24 2013 23:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 23:21 strongandbig wrote:
On September 17 2013 22:24 Mocsta wrote:
On September 17 2013 18:37 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 17 2013 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
/in

when is this starting.

p.s. I'm going to be lurking this game. so feel free to call me snb


On September 17 2013 18:34 Koshi wrote:
The game is full. yayaya

Now we need replacements for the inactives Mocsta.


lol

If im active this game; im prob scum lol.. the appeal of a 30 player game is *LONG* behind me.

Voice mafia for the win !


Are you inferring that you have read through the whole game to decipher whether I have been active?
Cos if so, I expect immediately a bunch of reads; as opposed to posting pre-game talk.

Heres a tip.. the game starts on page 24.


A look at the number of pages in your filters suffices. You have been active and in the pregame you did say that was likely to be a mafia tell. rayn is right as well, your "direct me" is exceedingly weird :/

@s&b - I had had the same thought as yamato but decided not to post it, so when he did it made me feel fuzzy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 14:32 GMT
#2798
On September 24 2013 23:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote:
On September 23 2013 09:51 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 09:50 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Look at the people voting for Sentinel though....ugh

I don't necessarily dislike any of them.


you town <3

Marv y u not ded?

Marv what's the context of this post? Why does it make yammo town? Can someone explain for me what the deal was with sentinel at the time?

Also Marv why haven't you been making arguments for why anyone is scum? You've been making plenty of arguments about why other people's arguments are bad...

Actually, I guess you did give real arguments in one or two posts about why ray was maybe scum but you hedged pretty hard... That seems townie. Is that a town tell for you? I don't think so, because as soon as you figured it out you would do it as scum too...

My read on marv is based on the ray outcome. (Granted I actually haven't re-read the exchange yet, so am hapy to be disputed by a fresh perspective).

I made a "case" on ray first. Marvs response was to discredit my case as a pittance, and then produce his own case on Ray in addition to providing further analysis. The point is that Marv tried to one-up me; and I treat that as a heuristic for town pride/emotional investment with marv.

I will admit freely that prior that occurrence, he was leaning scum for me. [Rayn, you asked why I had a town read on marv before.. the above is why]


I wasn't trying to one-up you, I just didn't found what you wrote particularly convincing, but it did make me take a 2nd look.

Evidently, what I wrote about him wasn't particularly great either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 14:39 GMT
#2803
On September 24 2013 23:36 Mocsta wrote:
marv.

thoughts on my find with pandain.

Realistic indicator?


I'm not really sure how much it means, I know when I looked at the daypost when I got up this morning it only took me about 20 seconds to think

"meh, VA town"
"BH? odd"
"huh, missing kill?"

I've been trying to wrap my head around the mentality-shift as a couple of people have mentioned (you? zaragon?) but i dunno. I don't think a rapid assessment of nks is that out of bounds of normality?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 14:49 GMT
#2808
On September 24 2013 23:46 Mocsta wrote:
Marv,

I know you have already alluded to this somewhere. But can you re-confirm for me, the outcome of a FT lynch.
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 11:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Here's a votecount for you cats

Chairman Ray (6): yamato77, Koshi, Mocsta, kushm4sta, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, [UoN]Sentinel, geript

FirmTofu (5): Koshi, justanothertownie, WaveofShadow, Mocsta, Chairman Ray

[b][blue]

If FT is scum, i get how Sent/Geript look scum.
But if FT is town, whats the problem?

Seems like a 50/50 gamble to me.


If FT is town, it just means the wagons meant little and scum were probably dispersed. If he's mafia then obviously mafia needed to try to save him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 14:57 GMT
#2812
? If we want to lynch FT, we lynch him for being the scummiest player, not because of any information it might give us.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:00 GMT
#2814
Christ Mocsta, Firm's play hasn't warranted that :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:05 GMT
#2816
On September 25 2013 00:03 ObviousOne wrote:
FT dissuaded me from looking into his past games with his intentional meta shifting argument, so I will judge him on his laurels for this game alone. Gonna read his filter one more time. I spent half an hour trying to get his voice in my head from two of those games and I ended up not much better off in terms of "hearing" the differences.

Also spent some quality time in WoS filter for ideas. IMO his death was the most meaningful. That'll be later I guess.

+ Show Spoiler [not game related] +

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/clinical-depression/AN01057

Apparently I have this and I need help. Symptoms for months. Today is a not so good day for me if you're familiar with my ups and downs.


For what it's worth, how he characterised his play seems reasonably accurate.

Spent a while on day 1 flicking through his games, and notably the differences he described in his scum games in Titanic and Persona are the same differences as I noticed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:09 GMT
#2819
This is a good post ^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:10 GMT
#2820
fuck, that was supposed to be at the rayn post.

Curse you OO.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:12 GMT
#2823
On September 25 2013 00:11 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work


Yeah. Why did you go to bed at the end of Day 1 with a total peace-out type vote and post, 3 hours after your previous post in the thread, addressing absolutely nothing that occurred?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:12 GMT
#2824
On September 25 2013 00:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Marv my post was also excellent


If you replace 'ego' with 'penis', perhaps.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:24 GMT
#2835
you know, rayn, it's much more useful if you don't set "homework" and see if people do useful shit without being prompted.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 24 2013 15:27 GMT
#2836
On September 25 2013 00:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
On September 25 2013 00:11 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work


Yeah. Why did you go to bed at the end of Day 1 with a total peace-out type vote and post, 3 hours after your previous post in the thread, addressing absolutely nothing that occurred?


I had already addressed who I wanted to see lynched, had to go to bed and since kush wasn't an option so I voted who was the next best option in my opinion.


You just, ya know, didn't give a fuck at all to comment on either of the hot candidates at the time?

Didn't really see the need of getting involved with finding a decent lynch, no?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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