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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:55 GMT
#5777
On October 02 2013 09:55 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm also around for vote switch shenanigans. Let's take it to the max.


Do you think decondou is scum?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:57 GMT
#5781
Another indicator that he's town(unless both him and stutters are scum).

He would have switched to stutters rather then decondou as a stutters counter lynch would be easier.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:01 GMT
#5789
Mocsta, what do you think now?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:03 GMT
#5793
On October 02 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:01 Pandain wrote:
Mocsta, what do you think now?

I would like it if iamp took the reminaing 50mins, and deconstructed my case.

Im struggling to remove myself from it.


Do you think he's more likely mafia then iamp?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:07 GMT
#5795
On October 02 2013 10:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Wait what? Are we seriously doing another last hour bandwagon?


You've never addressed my points, maybe this is what happens when other arguments are flawed.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:08 GMT
#5797
Why did you ignore me kita?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:11 GMT
#5802
I made several points why iamp is town. He also has responded.

Here is the only thing you said to me:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


I then stated:
On October 02 2013 05:01 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


Then why didn't he talk about it later on or use it to defend himself?

Thinking about it, mafia could only have double stacked one of them. So even telling medics to protect even one of them risks the chance they protect the one who wasn't double stacked. Doesn't make sense.

And yes Risen, I do think Rayn is scum and would be happy to see a lynch of him.


And you never further responded and even ignored my other points.

I think you are pushing a bad lynch and need to reconsider if you're town.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:12 GMT
#5804
On October 02 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:03 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:01 Pandain wrote:
Mocsta, what do you think now?

I would like it if iamp took the reminaing 50mins, and deconstructed my case.

Im struggling to remove myself from it.


Do you think he's more likely mafia then iamp?

At this point, not sure.

iamp has some things that can be attributed to town. That is certain.
Theres also a variety of inconsistencies and lack of transparency (in my opinion as per outlined in my case).

Whereas, with Deconduo I do not see redeeming features; however, I am uncertian on the motive behind the lynch.
You are a complete unknown entity to me pandain; so you can appreciate that trust between you and I is hard to generate.

Especially when in the same post as casing Deconduo, you suggest that Stutters/iamp are town. (who the thread is set on) and that FT is lynchable (who the thread is NOT set on)... Yes, I am concerned.


I do not think Stutters is town. I think he is maybe scum, but he could be just really bad.

I am more certain though that decondou is scum, and he should be lynched today.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:14 GMT
#5810
On October 02 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:11 Pandain wrote:
I made several points why iamp is town. He also has responded.

Here is the only thing you said to me:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


I then stated:
On October 02 2013 05:01 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


Then why didn't he talk about it later on or use it to defend himself?

Thinking about it, mafia could only have double stacked one of them. So even telling medics to protect even one of them risks the chance they protect the one who wasn't double stacked. Doesn't make sense.

And yes Risen, I do think Rayn is scum and would be happy to see a lynch of him.


And you never further responded and even ignored my other points.

I think you are pushing a bad lynch and need to reconsider if you're town.
As an aside.
Deconduo called Mattchew town for saying WoS should be medic'd.
Now pandain is calling iamp town for saying Marv should be medic'd

The syllogism is:
If Deconduo is scum; for observing the medic tell as town.
Pandain is scum; for observing the medic tell as town.

Thats my case

I don't understand this at all.

The iamp case was made with poor reasoning and probably joined by bad motives.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:14 GMT
#5812
JAT do you really not think decondou is at ALL suspicious? Really?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:15 GMT
#5814
On October 02 2013 10:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:11 Pandain wrote:
I made several points why iamp is town. He also has responded.

Here is the only thing you said to me:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


I then stated:
On October 02 2013 05:01 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


Then why didn't he talk about it later on or use it to defend himself?

Thinking about it, mafia could only have double stacked one of them. So even telling medics to protect even one of them risks the chance they protect the one who wasn't double stacked. Doesn't make sense.


That's not a good defense. I've directed the medics as mafia several times into players that I'm going to shoot.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that yamato and marv were good medic targets.

Then you're a really bad mafia player because telling town to protect who you're going to shoot seems quite unproductive to me.

You also fail to address my other points.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:19 GMT
#5821
...
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:22 GMT
#5824
On October 02 2013 10:15 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:11 Pandain wrote:
I made several points why iamp is town. He also has responded.

Here is the only thing you said to me:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


I then stated:
On October 02 2013 05:01 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 04:55 Pandain wrote:
The night kill argument also isn't wifom, why tell doctors to protect people who you're going to shoot?


The missing kp points to double stack. Who cares about a medic at that point? If anything, it makes him look good.


Then why didn't he talk about it later on or use it to defend himself?

Thinking about it, mafia could only have double stacked one of them. So even telling medics to protect even one of them risks the chance they protect the one who wasn't double stacked. Doesn't make sense.


That's not a good defense. I've directed the medics as mafia several times into players that I'm going to shoot.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that yamato and marv were good medic targets.

Then you're a really bad mafia player because telling town to protect who you're going to shoot seems quite unproductive to me.

You also fail to address my other points.


It wasn't just protect ___,___, yam, marv ___, ___, __.

It was protect Yamato AND marv and THOSE are the people.


Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:23 GMT
#5825
I would be suspicious that you are still pushing him despite that obvious town tell, but everyone else seems to be just as bad.

Or maybe they're mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:24 GMT
#5828
I agree with you Kita but it shows he isn't lurking and he's trying to generate discussion.

Your points don't seem strong at all I don't see why you view him certainly as scum, even as scum I can't believe.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:25 GMT
#5830
Stop and think oh my god.

Why would a mafia member tell medics who to protect.

Holy shit.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:25 GMT
#5832
There is nothing which needs to be proven about that.

It's clearly 100% counter productive.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:25 GMT
#5833
Stop posting I need to do three consecutive points to get my post across
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:25 GMT
#5835
Oh my jesus
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 01:26 GMT
#5836
Rayn why are you so afk lately
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