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It's what it is rayn. You are scum.
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Sentinel wtf are you even saying?
1) Pandain thought you were scum and made a case on you.
2) Pandain went back on that read and thinks you are town and makes a case on you.
3) Pandain defends you.
Are these Pandain reads all town to you? Stutters, Cephiro, VE. I don't give 2 fucks what you think about Pandain his case for a sec, do you think these 3 names are town? Give me %.
Then the shit about voting VA (or marv in lesser extend) was fucking brilliant. Also why is it scummy?
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On September 26 2013 05:02 Pandain wrote:
Let me know if anyone else finds it convincing and I'll easily rebut it.
Nope Sentinel is drunk or something. I would use other words but I really want to play in his mafia game.
Please help me lynch rayn.
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rayn scum. But sure. I am gone. Too tired.
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On September 26 2013 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
As far as I know, the lynch was never limited to Cephiro and FT. Sentinel is still an option, I'm now on the table for some, but for some reason LM chose FT between FT and Cephiro.
This is scummy why?
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On September 26 2013 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today: kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag. justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others ( Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff. He also brings this up a lot: On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted. On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:
No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta.
Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town. That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline. Well, I guess you must be happy about this then:
##vote CephiroI can't believe you come into the thread after such a long time and the best you have got is this. You didn't see a single thing in this thread being scummier than me not taking hard stances? Really?
Is he scum for saying you are scum?
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On September 26 2013 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:50 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today: kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag. justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others ( Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff. He also brings this up a lot: On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted. On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:
No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta.
Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town. That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline. Well, I guess you must be happy about this then:
##vote CephiroI can't believe you come into the thread after such a long time and the best you have got is this. You didn't see a single thing in this thread being scummier than me not taking hard stances? Really? Is he scum for saying you are scum? Partly. He is scum for doing nothing and choosing me as his target when there are much scummier possibilities.
But you aren't getting lynched and he is.
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On September 26 2013 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:58 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2013 05:50 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today: kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag. justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others ( Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff. He also brings this up a lot: On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted. On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:
No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta.
Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town. That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline. Well, I guess you must be happy about this then:
##vote CephiroI can't believe you come into the thread after such a long time and the best you have got is this. You didn't see a single thing in this thread being scummier than me not taking hard stances? Really? Is he scum for saying you are scum? Partly. He is scum for doing nothing and choosing me as his target when there are much scummier possibilities. But you aren't getting lynched and he is. So what?
Why is he picking you when there are "scummier possibilities" that might get lynched. Wouldn't that be better as scum?
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On September 26 2013 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:44 Pandain wrote:Quick reasons why VE is scum before I go to class: 1. Has been lurking day two but still clearly reading. 2. Tried to cast doubt on Yamato as confirmed town, why even do that. 3. Just accused JAT for "why you pick FT" and being incredulous at it. Despite this, VE has said that he thinks FT best option and he only switched because no one would talk to him. Why is he so surprised at JAT. 4. Hasn't really been pushing lynches, merely commenting, agreeing, or disagreeing 5. Yam and WoS both thought and said VE was scum before they got shot. 6. On September 26 2013 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am also going to vote for LoneMeow. For the town. g2g be back later plz vote VE I will help with the crusade Bad random vote, doesn't comment on key issues going on which corresponds to my noting his inconspicious absense. 1) Not alignment indicative. I would read the thread regardless of my alignment, and I'm wont to lurk these days regardless of alignment. I'm here when I can be, and I comment on pertinent issues when I can. This does not make me scum. 2) It has nothing to do with "casting doubt". It has to do with getting burned as fuck by people (myself included) confirming someone as town when they (we) absolutely should NOT have. I may believe that Yamato is town (and I do, presently) but that doesn't mean that he's "confirmed town". As I said before: the only confirmed town are the dead. 3) I don't even know what you're referring to here. Maybe a quote or something could help. 4) Again, this isn't alignment indicative in the least. Once upon a time in my mafia career, yes. Nowadays, not so much. However I have been, as you say, commenting, agreeing or disagreeing with things. I don't understand why you say this is a point against me, if anything it shows that I'm trying to figure out the game WITH others. But whatever. This is a null tell. 5) WIFOM. Also as scum I don't shoot people who are suspicious of me. I shoot people who are NOT suspicious of me. Ask anyone. WIFOM defense of a WIFOM point. Suck it bro. 6) Maybe you could explain how this "random vote" is bad. You may not like my reasons, but it's not a BAD vote - guy hasn't done anything and I think he's a fine vote for today. In short, this case is bad and you should feel bad Pandain. For shame.
Yeah his case vs rayn much better. Go vote rayn!
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On September 26 2013 06:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 06:01 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2013 05:58 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2013 05:50 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today: kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag. justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others ( Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff. He also brings this up a lot: On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted. On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:
No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta.
Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town. That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline. Well, I guess you must be happy about this then:
##vote CephiroI can't believe you come into the thread after such a long time and the best you have got is this. You didn't see a single thing in this thread being scummier than me not taking hard stances? Really? Is he scum for saying you are scum? Partly. He is scum for doing nothing and choosing me as his target when there are much scummier possibilities. But you aren't getting lynched and he is. So what? Why is he picking you when there are "scummier possibilities" that might get lynched. Wouldn't that be better as scum? There aren't that many people on to him right now. Besides there is time until the lynch.
Meh.
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On September 26 2013 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think rayn is town...not voting rayn.
Yeah, reasons were that he tunneled me and kept on me while nobody else wanted to lynch me so he was town.
What about the rayn case vs JAT? How do you like that follow up?
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On September 26 2013 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi if you are not willing to give your opinion on the current lynch candidates i will make fucking sure you will die. Then you know i am town.
You have to wait till it is night for that. This time we lynch somebody.
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On September 26 2013 06:09 yamato77 wrote:
All Koshi has done this whole game is call Rayn mafia.
Hey I also called you town.
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On September 26 2013 06:17 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is it so that in the first 40 hours of the day we have a reasonable converation about many people. In the last 8 hours every fucking lurker chimes in and the thread explodes and suddenly there are like 1829 lynch candidates. Because big games are a clusterfuck. I'm voting Cephiro, BTW. Out of all the lurky fucks who are useless, I think he's the one who could be much more useful if he was actually town.
Is this a plynch?
Is it COULD or WOULD
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On September 26 2013 06:21 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 06:19 Koshi wrote:On September 26 2013 06:17 yamato77 wrote:On September 26 2013 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is it so that in the first 40 hours of the day we have a reasonable converation about many people. In the last 8 hours every fucking lurker chimes in and the thread explodes and suddenly there are like 1829 lynch candidates. Because big games are a clusterfuck. I'm voting Cephiro, BTW. Out of all the lurky fucks who are useless, I think he's the one who could be much more useful if he was actually town. Is this a plynch? Is it COULD or WOULD Would implies knowing, I speak in hypothetical because that's literally the only way to play a game with limited information.
would implies you know his meta.
could implies you go for a crapshoot.
Why would you go for a crapshoot?
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On September 26 2013 06:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
He has less than 1 page of content, like what do you want me to say?
Yes so you vote Cephiro...
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Cephiro good vigshot.
Fucking terrible plynch.
Now please. Let's vote rayn. Who everybody knows is off.
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LETS PUT ALL THE VOTES ON THE GUYS THAT MADE 1 POST AND FUCKED OFF AGAIN.
Typical scum play. Jeez. So good. You people awesome scumhunters. grtz.
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Or lets vote Pandain for making a terrible case. So much better than voting the guy having 14 pages filter and making a terrible case on FT and a terrible 1up case on JAT.
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On September 26 2013 06:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 06:31 Koshi wrote:
LETS PUT ALL THE VOTES ON THE GUYS THAT MADE 1 POST AND FUCKED OFF AGAIN.
Typical scum play. Jeez. So good. You people awesome scumhunters. grtz. Because you're such a maestro yourself? Give me a break.
Nope, but I am not voting a plynch.
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