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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:43 GMT
#5005
On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What if they're both scum?

I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:49 GMT
#5009
On September 30 2013 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 30 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What if they're both scum?

I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread.


Lynch VE instead of Risen plx. I had a townread on him forever as well which is why I don't particularly favor lynching him right now.

Just realized looking votecounts that Risen has throw away his vote on both d1/d2 lynches.

Scum generally spread the vote out and "throwing away" the vote on D1 when no one knew when the fucking deadline was could easily mean that he just never drew it elsewhere. Also... Didn't Risen end up on neither Ceph or LeonMeow on D2 and he actively pushed "Not Ceph" D2 while having the mysterious scum read on him. Isn't that suspicious to you at all?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:50 GMT
#5011
On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 08:14 marvellosity wrote:
thoughts on Ceph VE? Or anyone who cares to read it?


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On September 23 2013 11:01 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, voting for LoneMeow because:

1) He's appareantly a new player I have no idea of
2) He started martyring which is something I dislike
3) This Ray guy on a quick look doesn't look like he should be killed
4) I have no idea about this FirmTofu guy
5) Some other wagons that were in the last votecount have players that I'm familiar with and am able to read during nightphase


Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever.

First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it.

On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote:
FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch.

On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE.

Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy.

On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid.

Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM

On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 23:59 Mocsta wrote:
On September 24 2013 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the hell Mocsta. FT is one of the key people to discuss atm..

Maybe, like if you want to discuss him. I won't stop you at all.

From my perpsective, we are 4 townies down (luckily only 1 blue.. which arguably was a good outcome.. newbie with parity in a game with framer/GF = mindfucks).

Hence, I'm looking at best chance to ensure a scum lynch this cycle.
I can say with my heart on sleeve, yes... FT can flip scum.. but the *can* is not confident; and Im not sure how much talking about it, will resolve that. Hes just a selfish*cunt* of a player. I actually really hate FT, and might consider not joining games with him again. [If town.. I just know post-game he will complain about how obvious town he was, and everyone is stupid]

Im just saying, I think ppl like pandain and sentinel and lonemeow are a much higher percentage to get that first red blood. Therefore, it makes sense to narrow/focus the towns brain trust on that subset of players.

That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game?

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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
SNIP

This is a semi closed setup, the roles are known but the exact number is not. Not all of these roles may be present in the game.

SNIP


Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up.

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On September 25 2013 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
On September 24 2013 06:34 Risen wrote:
If VA is alive at daypost I'll be pretty surprised.


Risen, can you explain this comment?


A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill.


My scum reads are
Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel

First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point.

Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list.

On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:
If anyone was curious about my little unvote-vote tango, it was because I remembered/found this:

On September 24 2013 13:21 Mattchew wrote:
Lol im like conf town mutha truckahs


And thought, oh my, we're lynching the doctor! So I unvoted. Then kept browsing his filter and noted that yamato was a scumread of his, so it makes zero sense for him having protected yamato. So I revoted.

Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote.

Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters.

Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion."

On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 04:06 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm not against lynching either of Sentinel or FirmTofu, but I think I would still prefer Umasi. He's "kind of participating" but hasn't really said much anything at all.



Regarding Cephiro:

The apathy in itself is not alignment indicative; I checked some of his earlier games and in those he was active and involved both as scum and town.

On September 24 2013 11:44 Cephiro wrote:That said, we really need to lynch scum today. And since I'm still alive, I'm going to do my best to ensure that happens. Not too far from having read the whole thread properly either.


Where did you disappear? Been a long time since that post, and I know you're not away from your computer...




On September 25 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:The only thing that makes me not 100% scum on him is the potential he's just overwhelmed, but in that case, he's made no effort to explain that and there is no justifiable reason for his


I don't usually bother to explain much since in my experience it just gets one lynched, but since you asked: I'm having some pretty big IRL issues both physically and mentally due to my injury.

And I feel like a bronze player dropped into grand master league.




Please update the first post with current players after the replacements and new deadline.


What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting.

So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player.

On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote:
FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo.

More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum.

On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 13:44 iamperfection wrote:
risen what do you think of firms day 2?

I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has.

On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote:
Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post.

About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable.

On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote:
I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz

Still pushing FT over Ceph.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:56 GMT
#5015
On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy.

But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 03:00 GMT
#5018
On September 30 2013 11:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 30 2013 11:49 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What if they're both scum?

I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread.


Lynch VE instead of Risen plx. I had a townread on him forever as well which is why I don't particularly favor lynching him right now.

Just realized looking votecounts that Risen has throw away his vote on both d1/d2 lynches.

Scum generally spread the vote out and "throwing away" the vote on D1 when no one knew when the fucking deadline was could easily mean that he just never drew it elsewhere. Also... Didn't Risen end up on neither Ceph or LeonMeow on D2 and he actively pushed "Not Ceph" D2 while having the mysterious scum read on him. Isn't that suspicious to you at all?


Show me where he pushed "Not Ceph". I see he wanted FT/Ceph lynched.

Read his filter. I've quoted practically half of it it seems like. Yes he was "pushing" Ceph, but people bus. The primary goal of scum is to give themselves an out to bus WHILE PUSHING A DIFFERENT LYNCH!!!!! Multiple time's he's randomly promoted other people over Ceph for no good reason whatsoever while maintaining a mysterious never explained scum read on Ceph.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 03:02 GMT
#5021
On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy.

But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post?



You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world.

And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry.


Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down.

MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#5036
On September 30 2013 12:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On September 30 2013 12:02 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy.

But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post?



You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world.

And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry.


Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down.

MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread

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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!


This is blatantly against the rules. If you come back now I'm not gonna have a problem but if you actually bail then I WILL seek a ban for you after the game.

First off, now you've modconfirmed I'm town and Risen is scum
Second off, getting myself modkilled in no way helps town since there's no way I'd get lynched ever
Third, go ahead and get me banned. I don't give a fuck about that. This game as been so awfully run that I wouldn't want to continue regardless
Fourth, are you on fucking crack?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2013 03:44 GMT
#6352
Really... You replaced scum in after you mod killed town... Not cool
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2013 05:07 GMT
#6365
On October 05 2013 13:16 kitaman27 wrote:
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On October 05 2013 12:44 geript wrote:
Really... You replaced scum in after you mod killed town... Not cool


This was certainly the correct thing to do.

Malongo had zero posts and he was a replacement of a player also with zero posts.

kush was an active player who had to replace out for a legit reason.

Mods don't modkill to maintain balance, they do so to enforce the rules.

And the rules were no replacements after N2.
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