EPTGoT Mafia: Lords and Liars
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On August 06 2013 02:43 Vivax wrote: Don't worry guys. We simply pick D1's policy lynch right now before the game starts and everyone is happy. 1) Dandel Ion 2) Dandel Ion 3) Dandel Ion Edit: 4) Kush Pick one. ##vote vivax | ||
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On August 06 2013 05:26 s0Lstice wrote: trivia. no google allowed what is the sigil of house goodbrother whoever answers becomes host gold-banded black warhorn on red | ||
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On August 06 2013 05:58 Chromatically wrote: bing good search engine im going to sue you for libel. | ||
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my house is in good order i would say except for one black sheep | ||
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I would love to stay and chat but its late | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote: not really no. Although, he could definetely play like this as scum, but I dont want to lynch him today come on, both you jaberring at each other like jib jubs is definitely more an indication that your both more likely to be town. Scum like to hide not fight. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote: _________________________ @ all others And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. I dont understand why you would cry like a baby about that. Who cares how we figure out peoples alignment. Your pettiness about this subject shows to me that you dont seem that interested in solving the game. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:23 Xatalos wrote: What do you make of grackaroni's thread contributions so far, by the way? i would say he hasn't done anything alignment indicative yet in the thread | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote: WHAT? CAN I POST MY OWN PMS BECAUSE DI IS JUST LYING 24/7 WTF just tell us what he said you just don't quote it | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:55 iamperfection wrote: just tell us what he said you just don't quote it lets go what are you waiting for | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:01 Acrofales wrote: I was just told I have 1 KP. How did Xatalos know this already? probably an assumption | ||
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xatlos ------------------------------------ i will tell you this 1. he put himself out for lord first of any of us 2. Has been very active in pms 3. aggressive towards grack I would say those would points would indicate him more likely to be town | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote: I did share my thought about S0lstice, the only difference with Chrom is that I backed S0lstice up and put suspicion back on DI which is what DI is not liking about me and why Chrom is town & Lord. Dandel seems to have made quite the spotlight on himself what do you think of that? | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:50 Oberyn wrote: I think your post on Onegu was a really weak way to enter the thread. uh what was weak about it? | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:01 strongandbig wrote: So hey guys I be The Lord of house stark Also iphone capitalizes the phrase The Lord apparent lol First thoughts: I think dandel's playstyle is bothe irksome and actively anti town in multiple ways, so I'm feeling pretty ambivalent towards any argument that someone is scum based on how they interacted with dandel in pms. thanks for telling us nothing | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:04 Dandel Ion wrote: oh hey a meaningless post without reads by snb quelle surprise why/how are you lord? im giving dandelion the totes town read for have the same thought i had | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:09 Oberyn wrote: He justifies why the action is not anti-town based on the two scenarios I mentioned. It's probably not worth town cred, but there are better things to comment on in my opinion. he called two people scum entering the thread that isn't a "weak way to enter" | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:53 Onegu wrote: I dont think he voted for me, he Pmd me saying I should vote for him because he has the most experience. That makes more sense | ||
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On August 09 2013 01:52 Risen wrote: Super shady play from some people. Worst "keeping their identities secret" nicknames ever. Clarity either made a stupid mistake or is scum. Anything useful to say? You managed to say absolutely nothing with your post you scum? | ||
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On August 09 2013 02:35 kushm4sta wrote: hey all i will be more active second half of the game! for now i wanna lynch yamato on policy grounds Why you being a useless piece of shit when your capable of not being said shit? | ||
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On August 09 2013 03:42 Dandel Ion wrote: 1) I bring up sol as scum 2) That somehow means I'm defending sol 3) apparantly sol is town even tho he's never heard a word from sol himself (not in the thread at least) 4) CONNECTION CASES Risen, brother, you are not town are you? Good I didn't think so very try hard for scum no? Its just was full of stupid | ||
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On August 09 2013 04:22 Acrofales wrote: All I know about Grackaroni is what you have told me, which is not conclusive at all. How am I to form an opinion without more information about your internal bickerings over there on those godforsaken isles? wat grack is in my house? | ||
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On August 09 2013 10:30 Oberyn wrote: I see no reason to keep that conversation in pms. iamp has stated that he refuses to lynch any lord this cycle and wants a lurker lynch this cycle. I disagree that Lords should be given immunity and would like to see him comment on Acro, rayn, and his 1-2 preferred lynch candidates. While taking a strong stance against inactives is nice and all, I feel he has contributed just as much as several of the people on his lurker list. thats not what i said at all | ||
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I want to know have nonposters in your house been active in pms. Gumshoe has contacted me stating that he will be on later and as of yet still hasnt posted. I havent heard from grack to last night. I want to know if any non posters are in contact with you and if you have suspicion of them from their n0 commitment and recent pms. regardless if they are pm'ing you i want to know why they arent posting in the thread. IE ( Sharrant is in contact with you but isnt posting in the thread acro) these are the pieces of shit that come to mind FirmTofu- Decided to complain about activity and did nothing else Gumshoe- Had a good feeling from pms that he was town but is mia Grack- Mia since last night Kush- Non contributer who i want kp directed at because he can contribute as town and isnt nacho- non poster and i havent heard anything about his pms Sharrant- as stated before | ||
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On August 09 2013 11:07 Oberyn wrote: iamp has done very little in PMs with me, simply asking an irrelevant question about the Lord voting. He ignored a pm I sent him asking his opinion about the other Lords. When I asked a second time, he said that he doesn't have a scum read on any Lords. He said he doesn't have a mafia read apart from the lurkers. Kush is apparently his prefered target, but he doesn't really express this in the thread, other than calling for a night hit. Him and Acro are definitely the two Lords that look the worst at this point. what question did i ignore? | ||
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herp derp iamp is scum because he wants to kill scum | ||
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On August 09 2013 11:22 Grackaroni wrote: There definitely could be scum in lurkers but it's scummy to just not bother looking at active players because you have decided the entire scum team is lurking. So anything to say piece. You seemed to have not read the thread from are pms. | ||
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On August 09 2013 12:36 s0Lstice wrote: iamp, do you have any notion of when grack decided he didnt want to vote you and said as much to gumshoe and xatalos? did he actually push for this, and did it happen with enough time for anything to actually come of it? he hasnt pushed anything ever and seems to want to throw dirt on me but do nothing with it | ||
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On August 09 2013 13:22 Risen wrote: This is so scummy man. How about you analyze it, tell us what you think, and then bounce ideas around? Why are you jumping in on this Acro wagon without anything substantive? Seems to me you're soft-pushing an acro lynch without committing yourself. it pains me to say this...... i agree with ........... ugh with risen here. | ||
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On August 09 2013 13:32 Risen wrote: Not really. Just got back from da beech, read through the posts that have been made since I've been gone, and responded to FT. Now I'm going to take a bath, watch some House of Cards, and go to sleep. I'll be back tomorrow morning. as long as you admit they are bad  | ||
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On August 09 2013 14:02 FirmTofu wrote: You will see in a moment. Can you look over the post for me and see if you see anything that stands out to you? i see nothing noteworthy in a scum perspective | ||
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Dandelion[green]- Been active with his thoughts interested in the game had a same thought as me when calling out a weak post as s&b. I will eat my hat if he is scum Xatols- Active making logical conclusions in both pms and in thread Oatsmaster- Shit up the thread with yamato putting the spotlight on both of them. Has put his thought in actively since then as well. weaker town reads. [green]Risen Lol worst analysis that i have ever seen in a game for such a long post but seems like quite the commitment for scum to make. ClarityNl Was under a ton of pressure for the leak the name stuff. For someone who was under so much pressure he was able to explain himself fairly well and didnt run away. I think if he were scum he would have had much more difficulty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ scum city Vivax Vivax is a player that can contribute a lot as town and can even catch scum. He has done next to nothing in this game and seems like a guy just going with the flow and not sharing his thought process or actively trying to hunt like he usally does. Vivax should be one of the leaders of this town and he is not doing it for whatever reason. this post is wierd http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047¤tpage=47#939 Why is he not actively giving his thoughts and he actually never gives thoughts just asks a useless question. and my f5 snipe just caught this On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote: I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ Oberyn I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon. Where are vivaxs thoughts all he says is he is intrested to hear what other people are doing. Vivax is usally the one pushing for what he wants. I think vivax has a high probability of flipping scum. red]Kush He can spontaneously combust for all i care Gumshoe Weak but he bothered to contact me and hasn't posted why the fuck would he do that Sharrant Same as gum but with acro instead of me[/red] | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:33 Vivax wrote: FT, I'm not sure what you use as reason for calling Acro scum. Do you think he's scum for caring about the content of his posts or do you want to kill him for roleplaying, seems like a mix of the both. Wanting people to stop posting bollocks is fine but assuming they're scum for playing around in their first posts seems like a stretch. Are you claiming that Acro is also scum for roleplaying or only for: This is what Acro said: To me it looks like he's asking for reasons for Oats townreads on the house members. You call it a soft-accuse, how do you draw the line? you why you so passive? | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:37 kushm4sta wrote: yeah sorry about my terrible activity this just started at an unexpectedly bad time. i will allow my lynch if you want but ONLY based on policy because I do this shit as town for like the past 5 games straight i hate you | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:41 Clarity_nl wrote: iamp I agree with most of your post. Vivax however... he told me early on he wouldn't be that active earlygame (it's why he didn't run) Why not keep him around another day and see if he picks it up? As you say he's a pretty good player to have around if he's town Gumshoe and Sharrant.... Sharrant just hasn't been around, has he pmed much? Gumshoe however was super active in pregame and suddenly doesn't post nearly all of day1? or he didnt run because he is scum it didnt want to be in the spotlight i dont get the deal with gumshoe at all he seemed very interested in pms but totally mia | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote: iamp why do you have a strong townread on Oats? He entered the thread getting into a discussion with Yamato about why it is bad to release the names of the houses, which might be because he is town and he is concerned about it but aren't chances higher that he did it to stop scumhunting? Oats also asks stupid questions to everybody that tried to actually start scumhunting to draw them away from that. Sure it puts Oats in the spotlight but it also shits up the thread and it is hard for the other person that is discussing with Oats to not respond to these stupid questions. Oats DID NOT PUT HIS THOUGHTS clearly in this thread. What kind of bullshit is that? He currently has 5 townreads. 3 members of his house because they are "nice and shit", DI because "he is agressive and shit" and Acro because his constructed posts are constructed. I don't see why everybody thinks Oats is town. i never said oats was a good player | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Yes, I'm not exclusing that possibility but I don't think he's a good lynch today. From my memory you've almost religiously avoided talking about solstice, could you share your thoughts on him and his possible lynch please? i think i talked about in pms i would not be comfortable at all lynching him i like the tone and some of the things he has said recently plus he didnt run away with a lot of pressure on him | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:55 Vivax wrote: Iamp, how do you pick those specific targets for your scum city?What made you rule out the previous ones, namely grack, Nacho and Tofu? nacho i literally have no information on what so ever i dont know how he has been in pms at all. He is a complet inactive Grack has had aggression towards me i don't know if he would do that as scum. tofu- i forgot you can add him to | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote: What's telling you I'm town? I'm flattered but people need a good reason to start kissing my ass. he is clearly not reading the thrad | ||
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On August 09 2013 23:04 Vivax wrote: I just came to my hometown in Austria from Rome (2 days ago) after some gipsies stole my wallet in the metro the day of departure, now I had to replace all the cards I had in it, driver licence mainly. My passport runs out the 19th of August and I need to renew it, I also need to deliver some shit for a transfer to uni here, I'm seeing all my old friends again and one of them has birthday today.Tomorrow and the day after we'll probably go camping if the weather allows it. Have I told you enough of my private life now? :3 describe the gipsies | ||
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his reads are bad Describe me | ||
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GOAT im flattered | ||
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On August 09 2013 23:29 Vivax wrote: Jokes aside, gut says town, but forgetting about the people you wanna lynch didn't impress me. Reminds me of johhnywup. His answers to my enquiry seemed okayish (except that I didn't see his "sort-of" reads he talked about, but when the pressure was off he made a nice summary list of houses and fucked off without scumhunting. I'd put him on the hitlist for now. so who do you want to kill the most? | ||
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On August 10 2013 00:25 Vivax wrote: Sharrant posted zero but is active in PMs? Anyone who's in pm contact with him, please post a read immediately and everything he's done so far that's worth of notice. Sharrant is usually a very active and talkative player and if he didn't contribute anything meaningful yet he should be killed. from what i understand he was active with acro but has dropped off recently | ||
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On August 10 2013 00:44 Acrofales wrote: Here's what I told Lord Martell in my most recent raven: At Highgarden, I received two ravens from Ser Sharrant, but he seemed responsive and they had interesting content. He seemed to be participating in the game, thinking about things and even trying to uncover other kinsmen's loyalties. He was also exchanging missives with another vassal, Ser Wup, as well. Since moving to King's Landing I have sent him a number of ravens urging him to participate in the public debate, as well as asking for his opinion regarding my vote and what to do with the House's powers. Initially he replied. That was when we were talking about the magic that we control. Since then, he has been silent. Ser Wup has also not heard from him since the start of the day. I fear his keep may have been overrun by Greyjoy longships, or perhaps he has joined the pretenders himself. The most interesting thing he sent to me was a brief message stating he had conclusive evidence that kushm4sta is a loyalist. However, he never sent the evidence. did he give indication at anytime a reason for not posting in the thread? | ||
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im pretty sure he is making an association because you agreed with some of things i said. He is bad and needs to explain why he would be suspicious of either me or you at this point. | ||
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On August 10 2013 02:15 Oberyn wrote: Someone asked me what I think of clarity and I don't think I ever responded. I didn't really find anything overly scummy with PM interaction on n0. His tunnel of myself was annoying, but I didn't get an anti-town vibe at any point. Does anyone recall who posted the list of house members? johnny | ||
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oberyn, dandel, me, Clarity or oats, rayn, and from shit house i would take acro again | ||
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You have read the thread correct. | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:00 Sharrant wrote: Are we going to do this again? When I have a scum read I'm confident enough in to share, you'll hear about. You can threaten all you want, but I don't care, you can't rush me. we are having an exercise right now sharrant ignore the chatter for the time being | ||
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now over the course of any mafia game would you agree that certain topics become "major headlines" if you will. As in something that almost everyone takes a stance on or at least comments on said topic. Would you agree with this premiss? | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:04 Sharrant wrote: I agree. Things like Oats/Yamato this game, Rayne/Acro, things like that, yes. well when you jump the gun like that you make a mockery of the exercise. | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:06 Sharrant wrote: Okay, pretend I didn't say that. Keep going. no no i was going to see if you could quickly come up with the major topics in the thread but clearly you can | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:18 Sharrant wrote: Ah, gotcha. See, to me he just asked my opinions about it. I didn't realize he had been considering it before. Yes, that makes sense then. Apologies, Rayne. wait im confused | ||
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ill be on tonight and will try to stay up late for lynch | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:58 Risen wrote: I'm pretty sure nacho rolled scum and when I called him out in a n0 PM he got totally disinterested in the game. from phone details? | ||
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On August 10 2013 04:27 Acrofales wrote: What the hell was that about? He answered your question just fine. Are you just trolling? wat | ||
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On August 10 2013 04:32 Acrofales wrote: What indeed. Maybe you explained it later, I have not yet gone through the latest pages of notules, but you challenged my vassal to a duel, including the use of your House swords. He accepted the challenge, and then you told him he "preempted" some later question in your little duel game and you quit in disgust. What was it about? Were you just leading him on for no good reason? Why did you challenge him? no he solved my challenge by being able to recite the major headlines. he just disturbed my fun. Read the thread bro | ||
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On August 10 2013 06:39 johnnywup wrote: ok im gonna reply to stuff directed at me as I'm going through the thread but literally lol rayn you can't be serious I'm defensive. Especially day 1. You should know that from NWM. Literally every single game I've played of mafia I've been accused of being mafia day 1. It's just what I'm used to at this point so of course I'm defensive. I care what people think about me because, well, I don't want to be lynched? That should be obvious. 2nd part is literally lol. It took a bit of effort trying to consolidate that. I had to look through almost everyones filter and try and find connections. When it was all done I couldn't find any connection for Gumshoe and Vivax. Go through everyones filter yourself and try and find what house they're in before the time that I posted that list. I literally couldn't find it. It was difficult putting together that list. And you say list posts are bad, yet people were literally asking for one because they wanted to know who's in what house at a glance. So I put one together. How do either of those things point towards me being mafia, at all? lol wat i always act like mafia therefore im not mafia is not an argument you can make and it dosnt make you town. and while im sure you worked very hard in making that list its exactly the meaningless contribution a mafia player would make. It doesn't catch mafia and its only purpose is to say hey guys look im contributing when your really not | ||
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On August 10 2013 08:49 johnnywup wrote: thats not what i said  and i never said its a meaningful contribution but making a list and not knowing which house two people are in doesn't make me look mafia i'm not saying i'm contributing from that post but someone asked for a list and I wanted it put into a post for convenience sake so i made it. it's just something i thought would be nice and people could refer back to if they needed. i don't understand how that makes me look like mafia? if you could say you have made a contribution what would it be? | ||
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On August 10 2013 08:57 iamperfection wrote: if you could say you have made a contribution what would it be? | ||
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On August 10 2013 09:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: hi iamp! let's talk. current thoughts on sharrant? okish wish he was around more need more from him | ||
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On August 10 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: i pretty much think he gave us nothing, that bothers me much. Who do you want to lynch? Who are we shooting? shoot nacho and gum i probably want to lynch tofu want to join me? | ||
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On August 10 2013 09:32 johnnywup wrote: and no i haven't really made any meaningful contributions ding ding | ||
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On August 10 2013 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am okay with lynching Tofu. you shoot nacho with me, or want us both to shoot gum? or both different? SnB voting for onegu bothers me a bit. On the other hand Clarity wanting to lynch him makes me feel better about it. What do you think of Onegu lynch? or johnnywup? johnnywup, i hope you answer iamp soon.. id feel more comfortable with tofu then onegu plus onegu said he would be back before lynch. | ||
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## vote firmtofu | ||
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it is now wait for it THE WAGON OF JUSTICE | ||
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On August 10 2013 10:39 johnnywup wrote: im not pretending i have lol but that doesn't make me scum and i can start making them but im not really motivated to atm. if i were to pick one from every house it would be sharrant ft oats gumshoe koshi onegu i haven't been paying as much attention this game tbh and im losing interest as people continue thinking im scum. it's too much effort to prove my inoccence. if you guys think it's a good idea to kill me just night kill me and don't waste any discussion on me and try to find actual scum. im really close to not giving a shit anymore fuck you | ||
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On August 10 2013 11:10 Oberyn wrote: I'm around, just reading. vote tofu | ||
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On August 10 2013 11:20 gumshoe wrote: ## vote tofu you dont have a vote you jib jub | ||
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On August 10 2013 11:26 Oberyn wrote: Probably. So many targets, so few bullets. need a nuke | ||
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On August 10 2013 12:25 Onegu wrote: Ok caught up, my thoughts on Firmtofu. Out of my seven games I have played 5 with tofu and he was town in all of them, never once has he asked about others thoughts before giving his own that was the first thing, also he is normally more active than this. His responses to cases against him arent that strong either. Second reign case on me, SnB asked me my thoughts on S0L and FT and there wasnt much to go on so I said we need more info, I wasnt just posting random shit. Also again I am disabled and have a disabled child so sometimes I will be very active as I have nothing else to do, but others I will be at a hospital or on medicine and not post much. Koshi looks scummy to me also, I will filter dive him now and bring up the points I found. Also I was the main reason oberyn was elected, I thought he was Prome smurf so I straight up told him I would vote him, I also told jrkirby this. I later found out he isnt prome, but I had many discussions with him before voteing and found him the best choice. Do we know when a house has used thier HP check? Or if I become lord can I find out if we still have it. Thinking about this maybe we shouldnt elect the same lord because if they are scum and use the HP check and we continue to elect them lord we will never find out if they used it or still have it. I also like the split lord kp on 2 targets. lol its prom's game | ||
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On July 28 2013 23:15 DrParnassus wrote: *Promethelax, WaveofShadow, and Marvellosity are helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards DrParnassus, as we are sharing this account. | ||
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On August 10 2013 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote: FT is a pure lurker lynch. I thought we were leaving this to kp? shut up no it isn't read the thread | ||
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On August 09 2013 14:30 FirmTofu wrote: I'd just like to say that I formed this opinion independent of any case on Afro currently. I'm still not done reading the thread because I'm cataloging my thoughts(for myself) on most of the posts. tell me what you see here oats | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote: i dunno. Nothing much. Promised activity i guess.. why does he need to bring up that he came up with it on his own and why would he be thinking like that | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Cause people have ego's and like to say that they dont sheep and stuff. Surely you have seen people INSIST that they arent sheeping right? not like that | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote: I have. Whatever, I dont have a vote and if you guys refuse to listen to me, I cant do anything. Thoughts on Acro Iamp? felling less and less good about him wish he would alt tab from the international like i am | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:13 Onegu wrote: Sorry why are lords makeing time slots? for murder and mayhem | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Sheep me Iamp! also this lynch too easy. too easy when the lynch is the hand of 6 people instead of 24 jib jubs no it is the wagon of justice | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:30 FirmTofu wrote: Whoa guys hold on. I didn't expect to be so busy today, but ill clear everything up. When does day end? How much time do I have 30 min | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:32 Onegu wrote: No but for reals why? Just because youare lords doesnt mean youshould keep us out of the loop im not joking its for kp | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:33 FirmTofu wrote: FUCK. How many votes do I have on me? Alright, I need to get my shit together real quick and decide on my next step. your about to die son dance for me boy dance | ||
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On August 09 2013 14:30 FirmTofu wrote: I'd just like to say that I formed this opinion independent of any case on Afro currently. I'm still not done reading the thread because I'm cataloging my thoughts(for myself) on most of the posts. why did you say this? | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:40 Oatsmaster wrote: lol look at acro man. Sheeping me. You guys should sheep me too. no because you give no reasons your just herp derp your wrong for no reason what so ever. | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:42 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno, there isnt much at all alignment indicative in his filter at all. Its a lurker lynch. Accept it and STOP IT. you stop it | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:44 FirmTofu wrote: EBWOP: Town: Xatalos Possible Scum: Sharrant Onegu Risen ya your doing it wrong | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:44 FirmTofu wrote: EBWOP: Town: Xatalos Possible Scum: Sharrant Onegu Risen You are defending this oats this is your shining beacon of town | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:46 FirmTofu wrote: I'm not expecting to survive, broski. I'm trying to get you guys to lynch my scumreads after I die. no your throwing a wifom list into the thread before you flip scum | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:54 FirmTofu wrote: GL town. Please, please, please, please read my filter. Dead town filters are one of town's greatest assets. Also, remember to read the filter of whomever gets NK'd. Very, very useful. thats it | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:56 FirmTofu wrote: Lame that I get killed for inactivity when there are so many worse in-actives than me that would be terrible at LYLO. I'll read up the thread and find out who started the wagon on me. You guys should look into that as well. it was me | ||
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On August 10 2013 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Iamp, how sad will you be when FT flips town? i dont feel sadness only anger | ||
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iamperfection - The innocent child and the towniest player in the game yet again. raynpelikoneet- Extremely likely to be town. cared about the lynch active in pms. Helped get shit done commited to the game. Was confused about my questioning of sharrant probally wouldnt have botherd to pm me if he was scum.Was willing to wake up just to do some actions. probally the towniest guy in the game after me. s0lstice- one hears many things through pms and i hear whispers that he is performing well. plus he wasnt afraid when he was under pressure and explained himself. He then contributed a large post when there was no pressue on him he didn't have to do that he is town. Xatalos- he is town active in thread and pms. Seems to care about the game and is intrested in what is going on. town ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chromatically-Think hes town been speaking to me well sent a message in good faith pretty good with pms would like to see more in thread cared about the lynch too Grackaroni-very likely town. Dont think he would have shown aggression towards me early on like he did in thread and in pms. Seems to be thinking about the game plus i doubt there are 2 scum in my house anyways (gumshoe you better flips scum) Oatsmaster- Dont think he would shit on my lynch as much as he did as scum kind of put himself in the spotlight for no reason with tthat. is a jib jub but a town jib jub Dandel Ion- still probally town for reason i said in thread and pms. Wish he gave a shit about the lynch though Sharrant- threw his support on the wagon of justice which he would know is a mislynch if he is scum. WHy do that as scum seems like a thing scum would never think of doing. Still would like to see some pick up in actvity but i would say town somewhat confidentaly on him. Oberyn- Seems like town to me. Seemed to have natural suspicion of me early on and been active in pms. Risen- lol too crazy to be scum i guess. Lots of stupid in his posts though. would say town Clarity_nl- was under pressure and seemed to be able to explain himself pretty easily and didnt run away somewhat god activity compartively town i would say Koshi- he seems naturally frustrated. Guess ill say say town. Has made some of his thoughts kowns would like to know how he did in the most recent night phase with pms ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- johnnywup- martyer could be scum might not be who knows Onegu- i dont know i read his filter and cant tell. Asked my house members for help and they had differing opinions Nachomamma8/ace- who knows Acrofoles- It really bothers me that he decided to do jack at lynch time and seemed to be very unintrested in the goings on. Have no clue why he thinks johnny is town just because he is martyer. His pms have been ok very null on acro i simply dont know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- jrkirby- could be scum this is pretty terrible logic http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047¤tpage=74#1469 lurker bad activity made a whiny post i dont like whiners. kushm4sta- useless who knows could be scum might not be strongandbig- This kid could be scum. Didn't really do anything with pms first few were just policy/useless setup talk. Didn't care about the lynch at all nor checked in with the plan for kp use. I could see him flip scum. also if there is a lord that is scum my guess would definitely be him. yamato77- Thought he was town because of the fight early on but has been entirely apathetic in the game and is not intrested in catching scum at all. More intrested in complaining. could be scum Vivax- so i reread what he posted after i told him i think he is scum. Fucker still has not had a single strong push the entire game. vivax should be leading the town or fighting me if im wrong about sompething he simply does not care what is going on and isnt trying to catch scum. He does this because he is scum gumshoe- is scum and wont die.  | ||
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On August 11 2013 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote: What Iamp. How come acro isnt scum for you. How come yamato is???. because yamato bugged me more than acro | ||
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On August 11 2013 14:46 Onegu wrote: Or a protective role was on him, or he was immune to house kp, closed setup means no they couldnt be sure. the most likely scenario is that everyone in my house had hp of 7 | ||
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On August 11 2013 23:47 Oberyn wrote: It's worth noting that I told iamp I thought FT should be shot and asked if they'd consider a yamato lynched. He was not open to consideration. I then PM'd iamp stating that I want yamato moved up to the priority night kill. He disagreed and insisted that gumshoe and kush be shot first. I asked Acro about his thoughts on night hits, including yamato's name and he said that he was too busy in PMs to reply. He completely dodged the question. Chromatically put yamato last on his list of night shots behind gumshoe, kush, and johnnywup stating that yamato will likely be lynched today. Is there a reason you are subtly calling me scum. Want to just say it so we can all call you stupid and move on? | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. I think they are both town And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote: *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread? Because he's stupid I guess | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno, working pretty well for me so far. No your making terrible meta arguments and aren't backing them up or proving your point your being lazy and bad | ||
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On August 12 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating? What do you mean? | ||
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On August 12 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, if i was you i would have done this: "Hey Xatalos & Grackaroni. I am now gonna use a HP check on our house because of X. When i get the results i will tell them to you because i am quite sure you guys are town. This is how we proceed. Do not out the results whatever it is when we three are all alive. If strange things start happening with night KP, we can deduce that someone from our house could be in fact mafia." Now with the check outed, if strage things start happening, it points towards all of the players! Congratulations Grackaroni! If I spent all my time telling players to not be stupid it would consume all my time | ||
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On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why? So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best. | ||
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On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do? He said why he did it in the thread | ||
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On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is scum motivation: Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME! Magic! so do you think one of us is scum or not? Otherwise i see no point to this conversation. and your wrong we still don't know what the starting hp is of the other houses and we don't know if they are the same in every house. Also we don't know if our house starting hp was truly 7 it is an educated guess but nothing is confirmed. | ||
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On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote: Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad" You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost. I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum. The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing? no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive. | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Maybe from your perspective, if you are town (which I think is likely) that makes sense. As I've said I'm not going to pursue this until way later in the game if there's been no claim for the shot or no flip that suggests it could be a town shot. However rayn is being dumb and it's annoying because it's exactly the way rayn started playing in titanic, which held up to its namesake. iamp why is your vote not on yamato yet? because i dont feel like putting it there yet i would like to see him dance for my amusement. | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:10 kushm4sta wrote: i think acro is mafia you used to be mediocre at this game what happened? | ||
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You were once a spammer. | ||
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so you have a red check on you yamato and havent really given a shit about the game. Which you gonna do now? | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:32 yamato77 wrote: Why are you voting me? Don't you see how non-threatening I am? ![[image loading]](http://s10.postimage.org/tet33yjdl/Baby_Seal_1.jpg) o ok i get it ## Vote Yamato | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:50 Chromatically wrote: yeah I have a sneaking suspicion about yamato bwhahaahahaaha | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:59 Xatalos wrote: Okay, so Yamato is scum (unless he's playing 100% against his win condition atm). This means that Sharrant is almost confirmed town. I think it's also pretty safe to start looking at Yamato's filter and suspicious interactions with / posts about Yamato. I'm dying to unravel the mystery of my roleblock, but if Oberyn is convinced that the information should be kept hidden, so be it. Acro, why am I apparently your scum suspect? Referring to your PM about Lannisters. I'd really like to know what's your basis. no yamatos filter is useless and is wifom you can get reads possibly from how players interacted with him but not how he interacted with others. | ||
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On August 12 2013 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: What about SnB? The only thing i remember him doing was the bullshit info-hide with Clarity and Oats, and i think those two are town. Has he really been as active in PM´s as he claims? I have ~5 PM´s from him. ya i didn't get good vibes from him in pms | ||
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On August 12 2013 07:31 iamperfection wrote: ace have you read the thread? | ||
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On August 12 2013 08:00 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think he was it was saying it was weird. Only that since you deflected the shot away from Yamato if you had a contrary view to shooting lurkers then you would be more suspicious. The correct choices would be 1. ace hasn't read the thread yet because he would clearly seen after what gum did why i would want him killed. 2. Ace is bad 3. Ace is just scum and pouring nonsense in the thread while also not reading. I guess this option also includes all the above just with the added caveat of him being scum. So which one is it ace? | ||
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On August 12 2013 08:13 Ace wrote: I don't see what was weird here? I didn't vote for you, I voted Risen because he wanted to be house lord. You told me that you would then vote for yourself just in case, remember? RE: HP checks. I missed this convo but imo Town doesn't need to know the HP of anyone in the game. Scum does. Either Town should have voted to all burn HP checks asap so no one gets an accurate read later or deal with the fact Scum may get a lord that finds out later. Also I'm guessing when the HP check is used only the Lord is notified? So a Scum Lord can use it w/o anyone knowing unless trying to use it later, correct? Because Scum need that info more than Town. That being said I think if any of the prior Lords are thought to be Scum, the next elected lord can just ask if the HP check was already used. If so chances are very high the previous Lord is Scum as they used it w/o sharing that information. Chromatically votes for yamato. waiting on rest of Lord votes and the other person to claim based on Oberyn claiming watcher. Well there was also a 1 shot Alignment Cop claim too right? Not farfetched to think we could have a 1 shot medic too. Seems like we have very weak blue roles in this game unless there are multiples of them. I see Onegu claims later how it actually works, pretty much a normal medic. I think we should ignore this scenario until after the lynch. I kind of follow where you are going with this (except I think Grack just made a mistake). Lets just wait for this claim and other Lords to chime in on yamato. lol wat way to say nothing also chime in on yamato????? wat is there to chime in on?????????????? | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote: THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted. | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote: My bad, I thought Oberyn bolded the lords in his houses list lol. It was iamp. Basically, same question for iamp. Grackaroni himself didn't answer that question yet, how did he get informed of the exchange in PMs Onegu was having (to the point of saying he talked with a specific dude). If the lords didn't tell him, then he wasn't supposed to know that, and hence is scum. I dont recall any specific pms regarding jkirby i will check | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote: You can only claim stupid or scum tbh. What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi. listen you retard how the fuck would the vigi know that gum had 1 hp | ||
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On August 12 2013 22:51 Koshi wrote: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY LOW AFTER ALL LORDS SHOT HIM? Ok maybe not 1 hp. But it wasn't going to be 15 HP. wtfff? Like how do you even refuse to see that this doesn't make sense? And of couse nobody in the thread is paying attention to me when I am actually finding scum............ Typical. because im the towniest player in the game and the reason people dont listen to you is because your stupid. and your not even considering why else i would think it was a town vig. now drop it | ||
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On August 12 2013 23:31 Oberyn wrote: iamp, when I asked for yamato to be our night hit because everyone had a scum read on him, what was the reason you wanted gumshoe and kush shot first? are you seriously asking me why i wanted gumeshoe shot.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................really? kush is useless piece of shit i still want him shot. | ||
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On August 13 2013 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is the Grackaroni situation solved already or what? Lords? no sent him a pm | ||
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On August 13 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you mean. Didn´t he have some information he should not have unless you told him? I didn't see any pms with jkirby and grack but I have a lot of pms . | ||
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On August 13 2013 02:59 Oberyn wrote: Onegu finds this post scummy. "Finally read the thread, I am most suspicious of Jrkirby. First off Nobody in House Martell has gotten a good read off of him because nobody in House Martell really talked to each." yamato and myself have posted in the thread that we haven't talked a lot with jrkirby, so I'm less convinced. ya thats a good point would be a sign that he is reading the thread quite closely if he picked up on the fact that you both said that. | ||
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On August 13 2013 03:09 strongandbig wrote: i'm confused about the grackaroni situation. am i missing something he posted in thread that he shouldn't have known? Or has this all happened in pms? he said jkirby wasn't active in pms. How would he know that without extra information? but it looks like he could have inferred it from the thread. | ||
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On August 13 2013 03:33 strongandbig wrote: iamperfection your read on risen seemed like it was mostly based on his effort in his one long post, at least that's what you said in pms with me on day1. You also said you were going to read some of his old games, did you do that? no i didn't | ||
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ill be back in a few hours lords be on tonight if you can. If you cant you will blindly listen to your lord and savior the perfect one. | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: That can be done in PM's. Can we talk about something else? Have you decided your KP list? its easier in the thread and dont tell me what to do peasant and we are discussing the kp list as soon as someone talks back to me | ||
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performed very well in pms this morning he had good reactions to what was going in the thread and looked to have thoughts developing while talking to me. Im pretty sure he is town. | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: As i assumed. 4,5 hours left and you are the only one trying. :E What do you think of Acro / Xatalos shitposting over me? i think they are both town | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does Xatalos instantly agree wit his scumread´s case on his town read? Do you have any influence on that? i have stated to xatalos that have a growing town read on acro i don't tell him what to do though | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fine, because i have a growing urge to lynch him for the behavior i found out extremely irritating, and that i experienced in the last game of mine, and that was from scum. you think one of the most active guys in the thread and a player with a role block claim is scum........................................................................................ ............................... ...... really? | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don´t know. His post about me is full of shit though. It´s also full of shit that he agrees with his scumread instantly. That´s all okay for you i guess? active, intrested in the game can see through thread and pms. Seems to not shy from the spotlight createss discussion. all look like town traits to me. | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: wtf is it with people hunting town and not hunting scum? It´s not the town things they du but the scummy things. Do you have any opinion on what Xatalos said about me or not? well i think your town too so i dont really think much about it at all. | ||
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On August 13 2013 09:48 s0Lstice wrote: On the phone, but I would say the opposite in regards to the spotlight and xatalos. He has folded like origami in some big moments. how so | ||
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On August 13 2013 10:08 kushm4sta wrote: im not trying to piss you off rayne but sharrant and acro are town because of PMs. Why does dandel think acro is scum? were there ever any reasons backing that up or just feels? i hear you are actually making pms. Why are you being useless in the thread? | ||
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On August 13 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: read the last page of my filter. iamp: You do not get to call kushmasta useless. You have been at least as useless as he has been in thread. There have been three discussion topics that are important after yamato claimed scum: 1) Oberyn/Onegu fakeclaim - you had no stance on it. 2) Grack thing - you said "i PM´s him about it", no follow up and no stance on it 3) Acro/Xata shitcase on me - no stance on it. Don´t you dare to call anyone useless in thread because with all of your posts this phase you have been extremely useless. well mr rayn 1) i actually correctly guessed it was a gambit so i decided just not to talk about it. 2) my follow up with grack was to tell him to post his explanation that he gave me 3) i do have a stance my stance is you 3 are town | ||
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On August 13 2013 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) That does not tell anything about their alignments. The word "gambit" means you think they are town? Why? And if so, why did you not stop the discussion about them possibly being scum when it was ongoing? 2) Fair enough. 3) I don't really know what to say. I understand people do not want to discuss their town reads but if you think we are all town can you provide an explanation for Xatalos' and (Acro's) behavior because i just fucking can't see it. Help me out here if you are town so i do not need to waste time looking into wrong places. 1. well let be clear i think obryn is clearly town the whole coming up with a fake claim seems like to big of a play for scum to do. also you will like this active in pm. Seemed to have some natural suspicion of me. i think the scum knows that im untouchable this game. onegu i dont know he could still be scum i dont know 3. i love talking about town reads because they have a better chance of being right and i love being right. some stuff i have said in pms about acro. 1. Acros is scum 2. The roleblock on xat comes from scum (extremely likely) Since acro is scum he knows that the roleblock has come from the scum team. He then decides to pm his housemates to "find out" if they are the source of the role block. Would it be likely for him to think to do that as scum? I dont think so and He has been ok with pms with me at least. Some today showed clear development in thought process like saying one thing and then changing his mind after something was said in the thread. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so this aren't perfect reasons but im fairly confident that this would point to a town acro. and of course cant forget that when i called him scum at the end of day 1 he pm'd right away and told me he wasn't( What more reason do you need) jkjk xat i already stated super active roleblock etc...etc... | ||
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On August 13 2013 10:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you think people called Acro scum and Sharrant town at the start of D2? Especially Xatalos. i dont know perhaps you should ask them, acros action towards the lynch weren't to good didn't seem like he cared about it. | ||
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On August 13 2013 11:08 kushm4sta wrote: @iamp why are you calling acro scum? u have reasons? why kush way | ||
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On August 13 2013 11:38 Mocsta wrote: Sup I'm replacing someone in house martell Haven't read the game and at 130pages not sure I will Can someone post a quick recap pls. From the quick snippet I seen. Seems to be some issues with role block claims. why shouldnt we shoot you? | ||
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5-9 EDT oats 9-13 EDT chrom 13-17 EDT aco 17-21 EDT iamp 21-1 EDT oberyn let me know if thats not good | ||
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Original Message From Acrofales: No, Im loyal Why you lie? | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:52 Xatalos wrote: I still don't get gumshoe. He was very townish during N0. Then just went full AFK during D1.... and then voted on the mislynch and proceeded to afk again | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:23 Grackaroni wrote: I didn't make it into the endgame post. I guess I'm still alive? ##Nuke: Koshi ##Nuke: Raynepelikoneet ##Nuke: Chromatically ##Nuke: Acrofales Am I doing this right? ah the old quad nuke role. one can dream..........maybe one day | ||
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2: when you have free time read the thread during the day on phone 3: stop bitching The 3 step program to become a better mafia player. | ||
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