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On August 12 2013 03:15 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 03:13 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 03:10 kushm4sta wrote:
i think acro is mafia you used to be mediocre at this game what happened? spammers happened
You were once a spammer.
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On August 12 2013 03:27 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 03:07 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".
wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"? Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad" You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost. I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum. The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing? no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive. Maybe from your perspective, if you are town (which I think is likely) that makes sense. As I've said I'm not going to pursue this until way later in the game if there's been no claim for the shot or no flip that suggests it could be a town shot. However rayn is being dumb and it's annoying because it's exactly the way rayn started playing in titanic, which held up to its namesake. iamp why is your vote not on yamato yet? because i dont feel like putting it there yet i would like to see him dance for my amusement. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hyhBVNu.gif)
so you have a red check on you yamato and havent really given a shit about the game.
Which you gonna do now?
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On August 12 2013 03:32 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 21:40 Acrofales wrote:
First things first. I haven't read the minutes for the start of today's meeting yet, but I received some important information that I was asked to pass on to the other lords. It seems it is actually pertinent to everybody here. One of my vassals has a network of little birds, who have uncovered that Yamato is a Blackfyre pretender. I trust him and I trust his abilities.
##vote Yamato Why are you voting me? Don't you see how non-threatening I am? ![[image loading]](http://s10.postimage.org/tet33yjdl/Baby_Seal_1.jpg)
o ok i get it
## Vote Yamato
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yes yamato has claimed scum nobody talk to him
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On August 12 2013 03:50 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 03:46 Koshi wrote:
Yamato red check is quite damning and should be enough evidence to get him lynched today. Yamato being either miller or being framed is unlikely. If this is the case then this is bad luck. Not lynching yamato is bad play. yeah I have a sneaking suspicion about yamato
bwhahaahahaaha
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On August 12 2013 03:59 Xatalos wrote:
Okay, so Yamato is scum (unless he's playing 100% against his win condition atm).
This means that Sharrant is almost confirmed town. I think it's also pretty safe to start looking at Yamato's filter and suspicious interactions with / posts about Yamato.
I'm dying to unravel the mystery of my roleblock, but if Oberyn is convinced that the information should be kept hidden, so be it.
Acro, why am I apparently your scum suspect? Referring to your PM about Lannisters. I'd really like to know what's your basis.
no yamatos filter is useless and is wifom you can get reads possibly from how players interacted with him but not how he interacted with others.
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I would be very surprised if chrom is scum he seems to be sincere through pms and in thread.
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On August 12 2013 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What about SnB? The only thing i remember him doing was the bullshit info-hide with Clarity and Oats, and i think those two are town. Has he really been as active in PM´s as he claims? I have ~5 PM´s from him.
ya i didn't get good vibes from him in pms
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ace have you read the thread?
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On August 12 2013 07:31 iamperfection wrote:
ace have you read the thread?
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now mr grack would you say gumshoe would fall into the nonsense category?
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now why would mr ace think that it would be weird that i would push for gumshoe to die considering he probably hates nonsense more than anybody? (hint there are 3 possibilities)
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On August 12 2013 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 07:55 iamperfection wrote:
now why would mr ace think that it would be weird that i would push for gumshoe to die considering he probably hates nonsense more than anybody? (hint there are 3 possibilities) I don't think he was it was saying it was weird. Only that since you deflected the shot away from Yamato if you had a contrary view to shooting lurkers then you would be more suspicious.
The correct choices would be
1. ace hasn't read the thread yet because he would clearly seen after what gum did why i would want him killed.
2. Ace is bad
3. Ace is just scum and pouring nonsense in the thread while also not reading. I guess this option also includes all the above just with the added caveat of him being scum.
So which one is it ace?
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On August 12 2013 08:13 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno what they have been talking with Risen, but him voting for me was weird.
I told him this when i saw his replacing:
"That being said: Vote for me as the house lord. Me + Risen are voting for him, we have no idea about your alignment. If Risen gets killed this phase, i am far better as a lord than you are, based on you replacing and me being active as fuck. Thanks. :D"
I then changed my vote onto myself, in case Risen was killed we would have no lord. Risen wanted to be the lord. I do not think he is mafia so i am okay with it. There is no reason to get into battle with your town reads, that would only hurt our cooperation. I don´t really care if he is the lord or if i am and honestly i expected me dying during night. I don't see what was weird here? I didn't vote for you, I voted Risen because he wanted to be house lord. You told me that you would then vote for yourself just in case, remember? RE: HP checks. I missed this convo but imo Town doesn't need to know the HP of anyone in the game. Scum does. Either Town should have voted to all burn HP checks asap so no one gets an accurate read later or deal with the fact Scum may get a lord that finds out later. Also I'm guessing when the HP check is used only the Lord is notified? So a Scum Lord can use it w/o anyone knowing unless trying to use it later, correct? Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Because Scum need that info more than Town. That being said I think if any of the prior Lords are thought to be Scum, the next elected lord can just ask if the HP check was already used. If so chances are very high the previous Lord is Scum as they used it w/o sharing that information. Chromatically votes for yamato. waiting on rest of Lord votes and the other person to claim based on Oberyn claiming watcher. Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 02:35 Acrofales wrote:On August 11 2013 16:33 Onegu wrote:
I see no reason not to claim since my ability is 1-shot anyways. I'm a medic that chose to protect Xatalos last night. Whoever was the other person must be the roleblocker While we wait for Mr X, I want to know more about this. With variable health, and different amounts of damage done by different swords, this simple claim doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you heal someone to full if he was hurt earlier? Do you protect someone from damage on one night? And yes, I want to know this in order to decide whether this claim is believable or not. The speed and casualness seems good, but now that I am looking into it, this seems like a very strange claim, given the particularities of our world. Well there was also a 1 shot Alignment Cop claim too right? Not farfetched to think we could have a 1 shot medic too. Seems like we have very weak blue roles in this game unless there are multiples of them. I see Onegu claims later how it actually works, pretty much a normal medic. Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it? The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why? So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best. Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do? Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts. On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town... On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town... Why are you giving this info out? you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town... Why are you giving this info out? you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference you're right that was stupid. Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town. They are not working together in their house. When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb". WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES? Right, for no reason.. Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not. This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre. This is scum motivation: Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME! Magic! I think we should ignore this scenario until after the lynch. I kind of follow where you are going with this (except I think Grack just made a mistake). Lets just wait for this claim and other Lords to chime in on yamato.
lol wat
way to say nothing
also chime in on yamato????? wat is there to chime in on??????????????
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gumshoe after being afk for almost the entire cycle decided to come back to the thread and vote for the mislynch when he didn't even have a vote. He then proceeded to go afk again and not respond to any pms.
oh and apparently he did this as town.
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On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu?
lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted.
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On August 12 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 21:09 Vivax wrote:Pretty sure you were lord when Grackaroni wrote the post Onegu is quoting here. It was D1. + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2013 01:49 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 18:00 Grackaroni wrote:Finally read the thread, I am most suspicious of Jrkirby. First off Nobody in House Martell has gotten a good read off of him because nobody in House Martell really talked to each. The best contribution in thread he made was calling out S0lstice for not electing his town read and naming 2 people town who the majority of town has already agreed were town. After that he started making posts such On August 09 2013 06:35 jrkirby wrote:
Finally, why have all the houses not posted a list of their members yet?
I think that it's actually beneficial to town to post these lists, and here's why:
1) Once scum have a list of 5 of the houses, they have a list of every house.
2) in a 24 player game, scum almost guaranteed have 4-6 members. Scum are spread out (I think it's random or something, right?) so they already know probably 3-4 houses at the start.
3) 2 (or is it 3?) houses have already posted their list. There's a good chance this fills in the missing info for scum.
4) All the house lists will probably be posted by day 2 anyway. Scum will only be missing this info for a short time.
5) Scum know all the lords already. This further helps them fill in the gaps.
6) Knowing the houses is not too beneficial to scum. Scum are more likely to want to eliminate every non-scum player in a house than an entire house (based off my possibly flawed logic - they can use this to WIFOM, be careful).
7) Knowing the houses is beneficial to town. We can help predict who will be lord in later days, we can help predict who is likely to be shot. We know who can PM a certain player, so it's easier to find people with reads on them. We don't think two people are on a scumteam together when they're just house buddies. Things are simpler, we don't get confused when REDACTED is posted. The list goes on.
8) Displaying all houses gives more info to town than it gives to scum.
9) Transparency is beneficial to town, and giving out house lists helps with transparency.
I can think of one good reason why we might not want to give out house lists:
1) There might be 3P that wants to eliminate a house, or secondary objectives for scum to eliminate a house. This is entirely speculation though, so I don't put too much weight into it. This is a post that I would be ok with if it was in the start of the game, but he chose to talk about this during a time when scumhunting was actually taking place and he could actually participate in conversation. On August 09 2013 06:41 jrkirby wrote:
One question I would like to ask the thread: Does anyone KNOW how much HP they have? I do not know how much HP I have. If you know, obviously I'm not asking you to announce how much HP you have to the thread. Actually, don't even say that you know how much HP you have. I just want to announce that I do not know how much HP I have.
This could be beneficial to town because then they can do better speculation on what people's roles are like. Choosing to talk about setup rather than scumhunting and he has already disappeared without really pressuring or conversing with anybody Everyone else has seemed engaged in the current conversations and actively scumhunting and these posts just didn't fit in with what I think a townie would be posting about during the time of the thread. He seems like he is more interested in blending into town than scumhunting. There was an exchange between Oats and Yamato at the start of the game that rubbed me the wrong way. It was so disruptive and anti-town, that I have trouble believing that it came from 2 town players. It didn't seem normal to me and I even got a little bit of a staged feeling (as in they could be both scum randomly attacking each other at the start of the game). I think remember someone claiming they were probably town for being aggressive but some scum are more comfortable getting in arguments with people to help buff up their post count and mask their lack of contributions. @Xata/Clarity/anyone awake. Is there anybody you would like me to comment on before i go to bed? I wanted to point out this post, first how does he know we havent talked to jrkirby much, actually at this point in time I had actually started to PM more often than I had been, graken isnt a lord and we didnt say to much in post about our pms with jrkirby, it was yamato we hadnt talked to much. He also talks about blending in but thats not what jrkirby did he brought up points that werent being talked about. Jrkirby always looks scummy and is a very easy target for scum to pick up on and make it look like they are searching scum when they are just going after a weaker player. He then goes on with a bunch of short posts agreeing with random things and basicly dropping kirby. And stays talking about the DI s0l thing alot. Then once he sees a bandwagon starting he jumps on it saying I should be voted. And he goes back and forth on the gumshoe kill and what happened alot. I have a slight scum read on him. Xatalos has not been a lord once this game... My bad, I thought Oberyn bolded the lords in his houses list lol. It was iamp. Basically, same question for iamp. Grackaroni himself didn't answer that question yet, how did he get informed of the exchange in PMs Onegu was having (to the point of saying he talked with a specific dude). If the lords didn't tell him, then he wasn't supposed to know that, and hence is scum.
I dont recall any specific pms regarding jkirby i will check
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On August 12 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted. You can only claim stupid or scum tbh. What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi.
listen you retard how the fuck would the vigi know that gum had 1 hp
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On August 12 2013 22:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 22:50 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 22:34 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2013 22:32 Onegu wrote:
Btw its not just Snb and Vivax absent, Jrkirby hasnt posted, and I think koshi also just posted for the first time. THAT REMINDS ME OF YOUR SHITTY CASE ON ME. HAHAHAHA You scum Onegu? lol speaking of shitty cases maybe you should go read the one you just posted. You can only claim stupid or scum tbh. What vigi was ever going to shoot gumshoe? herpderp I better us my vigi shot on a 1 hp lurker (or at least very low) Like how is that even the most plausible reason why gum died???? Most likely is that one in your House is scum or you are scum. Like 99% scum killed gumshoe, 1% a retarded vigi. listen you retard how the fuck would the vigi know that gum had 1 hp IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY LOW AFTER ALL LORDS SHOT HIM? Ok maybe not 1 hp. But it wasn't going to be 15 HP. wtfff? Like how do you even refuse to see that this doesn't make sense? And of couse nobody in the thread is paying attention to me when I am actually finding scum............ Typical.
because im the towniest player in the game and the reason people dont listen to you is because your stupid. and your not even considering why else i would think it was a town vig.
now drop it
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