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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 05:48 GMT
#1669
On August 11 2013 14:46 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 14:42 Grackaroni wrote:
to be fair if there's any scum in the lords they already knew that the kp direct at gumshoe had to be > 6 so hopefully it shouldn't cause too enormous of an impact.



Or a protective role was on him, or he was immune to house kp, closed setup means no they couldnt be sure.

the most likely scenario is that everyone in my house had hp of 7
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 05:52 GMT
#1672
On August 11 2013 14:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 14:46 iamperfection wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
What Iamp.

How come acro isnt scum for you.
How come yamato is???.

because yamato bugged me more than acro

you're outta touch man.

Lol johnny

your just mad that i called you a jib jub
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:36 GMT
#1874
On August 11 2013 23:47 Oberyn wrote:
It's worth noting that I told iamp I thought FT should be shot and asked if they'd consider a yamato lynched. He was not open to consideration.

I then PM'd iamp stating that I want yamato moved up to the priority night kill. He disagreed and insisted that gumshoe and kush be shot first.

I asked Acro about his thoughts on night hits, including yamato's name and he said that he was too busy in PMs to reply. He completely dodged the question.

Chromatically put yamato last on his list of night shots behind gumshoe, kush, and johnnywup stating that yamato will likely be lynched today.

Is there a reason you are subtly calling me scum.

Want to just say it so we can all call you stupid and move on?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:39 GMT
#1876
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:40 GMT
#1877
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:41 GMT
#1879
On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that

Is this like when I thought FT was town?
Cause thats probably gonna happen again.

Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp?

Your an idiot
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:45 GMT
#1883
On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?

Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.

I think they are both town

And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:47 GMT
#1885
On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that

Is this like when I thought FT was town?
Cause thats probably gonna happen again.

Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp?

Your an idiot

*you're

So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp?

Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:52 GMT
#1890
On August 12 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that

Is this like when I thought FT was town?
Cause thats probably gonna happen again.

Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp?

Your an idiot

*you're

So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp?

Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game

So how do you use meta right?

Not use it as much as you do
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:52 GMT
#1891
On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?

Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.

I think they are both town

And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet

Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?

Because he's stupid I guess
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:55 GMT
#1894
On August 12 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that

Is this like when I thought FT was town?
Cause thats probably gonna happen again.

Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp?

Your an idiot

*you're

So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp?

Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game

So how do you use meta right?

Not use it as much as you do

I dunno, working pretty well for me so far.

No your making terrible meta arguments and aren't backing them up or proving your point your being lazy and bad
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 16:58 GMT
#1897
On August 12 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?

Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.

I think they are both town

And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet

Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?

Because he's stupid I guess

The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating?

What do you mean?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 17:06 GMT
#1901
On August 12 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:58 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?

What is scummy about it?

Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.

I think they are both town

And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet

Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?

Because he's stupid I guess

The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating?

What do you mean?

Like, if i was you i would have done this:

"Hey Xatalos & Grackaroni. I am now gonna use a HP check on our house because of X. When i get the results i will tell them to you because i am quite sure you guys are town. This is how we proceed. Do not out the results whatever it is when we three are all alive. If strange things start happening with night KP, we can deduce that someone from our house could be in fact mafia."

Now with the check outed, if strage things start happening, it points towards all of the players! Congratulations Grackaroni!

If I spent all my time telling players to not be stupid it would consume all my time
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 17:08 GMT
#1903
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 17:16 GMT
#1908
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 17:22 GMT
#1912
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?

He said why he did it in the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 17:49 GMT
#1933
On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.

This is scum motivation:
Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME!
Magic!

so do you think one of us is scum or not? Otherwise i see no point to this conversation.

and your wrong we still don't know what the starting hp is of the other houses and we don't know if they are the same in every house. Also we don't know if our house starting hp was truly 7 it is an educated guess but nothing is confirmed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 17:55 GMT
#1939
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 18:07 GMT
#1944
On August 12 2013 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive.


Maybe from your perspective, if you are town (which I think is likely) that makes sense.
As I've said I'm not going to pursue this until way later in the game if there's been no claim for the shot or no flip that suggests it could be a town shot.

However rayn is being dumb and it's annoying because it's exactly the way rayn started playing in titanic, which held up to its namesake.

iamp why is your vote not on yamato yet?

because i dont feel like putting it there yet i would like to see him dance for my amusement.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#1949
On August 12 2013 03:10 kushm4sta wrote:
i think acro is mafia

you used to be mediocre at this game what happened?
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