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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:03 GMT
#3640
Hmm so house stark coukdnt agree to a lord either....hmmmm
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:07 GMT
#3645
On August 17 2013 14:05 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:01 Mocsta wrote:
Hhmmm why did xatalos relinquish?

That is far from the most interesting question. WTF happened in Winterfell? SnB scum and some kinda coupe?

I was looking forward to sharing deep discourse with him. Is that a problem for u?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:22 GMT
#3653
On August 17 2013 14:15 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:10 s0Lstice wrote:
we aren't at mylo are we?

because that is not a concern otherwise.

Closed setup, so good luck defining whether we're at lylo or not.

House Stark not having a leader seems like a scumplay. The lack of deaths seems like IF it was a power grab it only half-succeeded at best. I'm gonna park my vote. Plurality lynch, so better be paranoid as hell.

##vote Strongandbig

This is a bullshit vote.
If you think this is scumplay, then ask the question to both parties within House Stark.

Further, you cast scummy doubt over 3 of the lords if they hastily vote.
Then you proceed to become a hypocrite.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:26 GMT
#3658
On August 17 2013 14:19 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Mocsta, who do you want to lynch most right now? Who do you think is the towniest person there is? Why on both of those?

Towniest person is myself. Obviously that might not satisfy you, so Clarity. Why does this matter?

Who do I want to lynch the most?
I wanted to the lynch johnnywup; I felt reading the interactions with Vivax, that Vivax was coaching him in the thread.

However, he apparently has low HP; so might be best dealt with Lord KP.

Who do I want to lynch second?
Grackeroni
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#3664
On August 17 2013 14:26 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:25 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:19 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Mocsta, who do you want to lynch most right now? Who do you think is the towniest person there is? Why on both of those?


hey, why so useless with all that town cred you have?


Fine. I'm too excited.

I have a red check on Mocsta. You're welcome.

Wow.. this just became very interesting.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:31 GMT
#3667
On August 17 2013 14:28 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:27 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:26 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:25 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:19 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Mocsta, who do you want to lynch most right now? Who do you think is the towniest person there is? Why on both of those?


hey, why so useless with all that town cred you have?


Fine. I'm too excited.

I have a red check on Mocsta. You're welcome.


well this is gonna be a fun day it looks like.

so you are claiming to be an actual detective. you also have the ability to PM two people outside of the normal house PMs. anything else I'm missing?


Yeah, you could also read the thread sometime. The two people are the other people in my house. Seriously, even Risen had to print a retraction because of it. Get with the times.

Yes, I'm a detective that alternates between alignment check (odd days) and hp check (even days).

I think you are town; so Im going to believe the check is valid.

I led the lynch on Vivax; why check me?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:43 GMT
#3673
On August 17 2013 14:37 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:31 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:28 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:27 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:26 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:25 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:19 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Mocsta, who do you want to lynch most right now? Who do you think is the towniest person there is? Why on both of those?


hey, why so useless with all that town cred you have?


Fine. I'm too excited.

I have a red check on Mocsta. You're welcome.


well this is gonna be a fun day it looks like.

so you are claiming to be an actual detective. you also have the ability to PM two people outside of the normal house PMs. anything else I'm missing?


Yeah, you could also read the thread sometime. The two people are the other people in my house. Seriously, even Risen had to print a retraction because of it. Get with the times.

Yes, I'm a detective that alternates between alignment check (odd days) and hp check (even days).

I think you are town; so Im going to believe the check is valid.

I led the lynch on Vivax; why check me?


I can't read your posts, and it makes it so I can never read you in a game. I found Kirby scummy, but I know I can't read you, so I used the check on you to simplify matters.

OK.
##vote: Mocsta
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:45 GMT
#3675
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:46 GMT
#3678
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:47 GMT
#3679
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Course.. im not fuckn scum

###Unvote

Thanx scum qt, for telling me not to martyr myself
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:49 GMT
#3682
On August 17 2013 14:48 johnnywup wrote:
lol

can we ignore mocsta for the rest of the day please

Why?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:51 GMT
#3686
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:52 GMT
#3687
[image loading]
Forgot to post it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 05:58 GMT
#3690
Anyways. Here is my death post I sent to Onegu. Feel free not to read it.
However, I ask that after my flip; that you do take the time to read it. Its only then that you can trust whats on it.
I will make this my last post; so that this is not forgotten.


I re-read SnB + Vivax filter.

I think SnB is town actaully from his filter; + Im assuming for time being, 1 mafia / house.

Vivax filter is odd, im not sure how much weight to put on it

(1) His interactions with johnnywup are really weird; hes almost coaching him to give responses
I think this implicates johnnywup heavily

(2) I think acro is town; he puts early pressure on Vivax for the *right* reasons

(3) Vivax has really odd interactions with Rayn; really odd
I also think his implicates rayn as scum, but i could be tunneled

(4) Vivax makes a joke about not RB'n and getting scum to fake claim.. (which I know he has done before, so have i)... but then when risen says xatalos is scum.. vivax goes (im not surprised)...
i dunno, this gives me some real doubt on xatalos.. but surely he isnt scum

when i said i did my filter read, and want to lynch vivax.. he gave me townie points and supported the lynch.. so prob over reading this whole thing...

So if we assume 1 scum per house we get..

House Tyrell:
??Kushm4sta
??johnnywup
Sharrant
Acrofales
Acro isnt scum. Vivax pushes sharrant so he isnt scum...
between kush & johnnywup, i prefer johnnywup as scum

House Greyjoy
??raynpelikoneet
FirmTofu
Nachomamma8
Risen

I prefer rayn over Risen.... Risen has been constantly crazy, and does change reads based on info presented to him... rayn supported the vivax lynch once it was already set !! and kept quiet for a while.. i wish rayn was lord, i would loved to have seen him try and fight the vivax lynch in pm so i like rayn as scum.

House Stark
strongandbig
Clarity_nl
Oatsmaster
Vivax

Clarity is surely town, and as mentioned I like snb. This house is purged of scum.

House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe

Xatalos has been so pro town... Grackaroni had some weird interactions with kush.
This is where there might be a possibly of all townies in a house; thus, Kush + johnnywup are double scum... when kush dies, if he is town... grackaroni is certainly scum I think.

House Baratheon
??Chromatically
Koshi
S0lstice
??Dandel Ion

This is a tough one... I have no friggen idea. I think s0lstice is the towniest.. im still not fully sold on chromatically; one thing that bugged me is that chromatically never responded to me calling him out as scum.. granted i didnt actaully make a case, i would have expected him to retaliate, no? Im warming up to koshi, i think he actually believes his cases, and is just a really bad player.

House Martell
Oberyn
jrkirby
yamato77
Onegu

This house is purged of scum.. man.. there is no way you are scum; if you are, you deserve a mafia award
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 06:00 GMT
#3692
On August 17 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.


Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see:

You
A)Replaced someone I found scummy
B)Have a red check against you
C)Are a player I can't read

So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk.
Its OK man. Marv can't read me either when I replace in a game.

Many did find jrkirby scummy; so i dont hold it against you either. Just note if you take the time to read his filter again.. did he actaully push a scummy agenda; especially now we have more flips for context.. or was he just a guy that was thinking otuside the status quo?

Personally thats where I saw him.. but to each his own.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 06:10 GMT
#3695
On August 17 2013 15:04 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 15:00 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.


Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see:

You
A)Replaced someone I found scummy
B)Have a red check against you
C)Are a player I can't read

So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk.
Its OK man. Marv can't read me either when I replace in a game.

Many did find jrkirby scummy; so i dont hold it against you either. Just note if you take the time to read his filter again.. did he actaully push a scummy agenda; especially now we have more flips for context.. or was he just a guy that was thinking otuside the status quo?

Personally thats where I saw him.. but to each his own.



If you're town, stick around and do your best for the town today and then we can trust your effort when you flip.
Nah its OK I can handle having my first mislynch.
I came into this game not wanting to read the thread; so that I did is alraedy way more effort than I wanted to put into the game in the first place. Ppl still doubt even after everything I done in 72hours. Theres only so much a person can do.

I find it funny how lurkers like johnnywup come in instantly to discredit my 1 scum / house theory. Grackeroni discredited it in PMs as well.
All i know is. I have a town read on onegu, and know im town. So tehres no scum in house martell.

I also think both Clarity + SnB are town, so no scum in house stark.

Thats why i have the theory of 1 scum / house. If my flip is needed for town to see that; then so be it.

My prefer for lynch is Grackeroni or Rayn.
I will leave my vote on Grackeroni, mainly because he came up with a lord pm to try and get a JK claim from me.
##Vote: Grackeroni
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 06:17 GMT
#3698
On August 17 2013 15:14 Grackaroni wrote:
@Mocsta Please explain why last night your opinion on my interactions with Kush went from townie

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 12:44 Mocsta wrote:
Haha. I dunno I never seen him go to that effort full stop
Personally I don't find it alignment indicative to open profile. Post history. And check an endgame post

I will say ur reaction is more important to me.
See I ha ent read those games so dunno what he's talking about as he posted no proof.
Whereas u r reading genuinely impressed/surprised and validated

This actually gives me a stronger town read on u. So ultimately it was productive.


To suddenly my interactions with him are scummy based on him flipping town.

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:58 Mocsta wrote:

House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe

Xatalos has been so pro town... Grackaroni had some weird interactions with kush.
This is where there might be a possibly of all townies in a house; thus, Kush + johnnywup are double scum... when kush dies, if he is town... grackaroni is certainly scum I think.


I'm thoroughly unimpressed and now am forced to even agree with Johnnywup that your logic that all houses must have scum is faulty.
Alraedy explained in PMs

"scum is a sliding scale from.
probably scum -> leaning scum -> null -> leaning town -> probably town.

You were leaning scum to me prior to kush. after wards, you became more town and sat @ null."


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 08:18 GMT
#3738
Clarity..

Im resigned from this game because from my POV, i was looking forward to being lord and working with my town reads (e.g. yourself/acro/xatalos). When the draw came out, i was surprised. I even messaged Acro and said outright, you are the only lord I trust. Hence, when the check came out (from someone who I have a townread on based on the yam lynch) I felt I was already lynched because ppl like rayn were most likely going to vote me even without the redcheck.

However, the events have been good for a couple reasons.
#1. I dont have a scum read on Grackeroni anymore.
We have been talking before/after the redcheck. Its not entirely fruitful in finding alternative scum targets; but, its more the effort. I find it really unlikely for scum to keep talking to me, and keep trying to ask why i reverted my read from null to scum. Whereas, ppl like rayn.. well, they just ignore me... Oddly enough, I expected Acro to maintain convo with me; instead he voted me, and has ignored me as well. So in short: Im liking Grack as town, and xat as town. So my 1 scum/hosue theory is debunked for now.

#2. Sharrants been bugging me with the whole "i cant read mocsta" thing... I just can't recall sharrant being like that. most of the games i played with sharrant; i have actaully replaced into, and sharrant was already MISLYNCHED!!! so hes never really had to actually divine my alignment.. but thats nitpicking. For the time being, Im going to believe the cop claim.

#3. With Grack out of the equation, im back to wanting to lynch Rayn.
He pretends he was the first to want to lynch Vivax, but as we know in mafia. its not saying "i want xxx gone" its about actually pushing. What rayn did was drop everything to chase me. Im the one who actaully campaigned for a vivax lynch...

##Unvote
##Vote: Raynpelikoneet
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 08:27 GMT
#3743
On August 17 2013 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
there was a player on D3 who was perfectly okay with lynching his townread SnB and shooting his townread kushmasta? Do you remember who that player is and why did you not comment in any way into that when i pointed it out?

LOLOLOL.

This is funny. I spent a lot of cycle asking ppl not to shoot kush. No1 listened; i even argued the point of this game is to eliminate scum, not shoot bad townie. Its funny how you are trying to twist this to my fault and im 'OK with his death".. i wasn't a lord, and thus wasn't responsible for shooting kush. I still did everything in my power/ability to prevent the kill. In the end, there was too much uncertainty surrounding him, and he had to go. Theres nothing untownie in admitting that lololol.

And if i was ok with lynching SnB, I wouldnt have spearheaded the vivax lynch. This is just so full of crap from you.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 17 2013 08:41 GMT
#3745
On August 17 2013 17:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Mocsta saying he pushed Vivax lynch is bullshit. He did only start pushing it after i pointed out he was okay with lynching his townread.

This is actually funny. Cos I had SnB as a scum read way when I was pushing Vivax.

So.. lets see how Rayn pushes Vivax D3
Ctrl+f "Vivax"
On August 15 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax should be pressured hard on D3. Again, the same thing that happened in D1 end. He made a couple of good posts but other than that he is useless. I'm planning on pressuring him hard from D3 start, now is time to start playing if he is town.
On August 14 2013 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we are lynching Vivax today.
On August 14 2013 15:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax has not done shit other than popped in at the end of the phase with posts that have done nothing with the current lynch targets.
On August 14 2013 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta is mafia.


LOL.. thats Rayn "spearheading" heavy pressure on Vivax.....
BTW, Vivax didnt respond to that heavy pressure, but he drops it all for me.. How nice of you rayn.

Look how polite Rayn then asks Vivax stuff, afterwards
On August 15 2013 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, it's not that i disagree with his "shit". It's that i pointed out why he is not playing for town.
Do you disagree with me (having played in LXI) in what i said about his read and thoughts about Sharrant?
Do you disagree with me that his reads are bullshit? If so, show me why.
Do you disagree with me that his behavior is anti-town in general (trying to cast shit on people for no reason just because they call him out)? If so, why?
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?
On August 15 2013 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
<To Vivax>
Because i have a scumread on you, and you are possibly getting lynched today if you do not stop this bullshit.
You having a townread on me is fine, you having a townread on me based on meta that does not hold water is not fine.

I want to have a better read on you, i do read people based on how they interact with me, so could you now please my wish instead of being a dick.
On August 16 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm happy that Vivax is getting murdered. I have nothing to say pretty much.


It didnt read to me at all that Rayn promoted a Vivax lynch; or went anyways towards ascertaining his alignment.


Lets check Mocsta out.
Ctrl+f "Vivax"
On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote:
In short: Scummish reads (firm at top, soft at bottom)
...Vivax
...
On August 15 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Ok. Skimmed all filters and was left with a couple that stuck out to me

Snb
Grackeroni
Koshi
Vivax

Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter.
I fully endorse a vivax lynch this cycle.
...
Snb.. shoulda realised this earlier. But a town snb always pushes oats as a lynch. Didn't get that this game.. I need to do another read on him too but I don't think yamato pushed him that hard. U could argue he pushed snb as hard as he pushed acro.

In short. My preferred lynch this cycle is vivax.
I can live with snb though.
On August 15 2013 20:48 Mocsta wrote:
...
Either way.. im fully comfortable with a vivax lynch, or snb. (I prefer vivax.. mainly cos i respect his play much more than snb)
On August 15 2013 21:10 Mocsta wrote:
...
But if you want a rough idea. If SnB is to be lynched; I would focus fire Vivax.
On August 15 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:
I still want vivax gone.
On August 15 2013 23:33 Mocsta wrote:
As I said; im not sure how much to value it; so I would perfer a lynch im more confident about.. e.g. vivax.
On August 16 2013 00:18 Mocsta wrote:
I still recommend Vivax
On August 16 2013 01:27 Mocsta wrote:
<To kushmaster>
Heres a tip for the future

ctrl+f "kush"

dude.. in sicilian. you were scum; vivax was town.

so im keen for your perspective... please have a quick read of a couple vivax posts, and let me know if you think vivax is as scary as he was in sicilian


In short.. RAyn is full of shit. And needs to be lynched. He scum.
My vote is already there.




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