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On August 10 2013 00:46 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 00:44 Acrofales wrote:
Here's what I told Lord Martell in my most recent raven:
At Highgarden, I received two ravens from Ser Sharrant, but he seemed responsive and they had interesting content. He seemed to be participating in the game, thinking about things and even trying to uncover other kinsmen's loyalties. He was also exchanging missives with another vassal, Ser Wup, as well.
Since moving to King's Landing I have sent him a number of ravens urging him to participate in the public debate, as well as asking for his opinion regarding my vote and what to do with the House's powers. Initially he replied. That was when we were talking about the magic that we control. Since then, he has been silent. Ser Wup has also not heard from him since the start of the day. I fear his keep may have been overrun by Greyjoy longships, or perhaps he has joined the pretenders himself.
The most interesting thing he sent to me was a brief message stating he had conclusive evidence that kushm4sta is a loyalist. However, he never sent the evidence.
did he give indication at anytime a reason for not posting in the thread?
No, nor would I have accepted that as anything but a flimsy excuse. Given the prolonged time without receiving a raven, I believe he may have been forced to flee his keep without ravens or any other method of getting in touch with any of us.
Other lordlings are of higher concern to me, but I understand that those of you who have not been in touch with him at all have your concerns about my kinsman's behaviour.
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On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime.
You were in the TL+ Mafia game, right? I was coaching scum in that atrocity of a game and I seem to recall you as one of the few highlights of town, but the whole game was full of lurk. EVERYBODY's activity was way below acceptable. I don't see how you can have played in that game and then decided that being inactive is a good idea.
If that wasn't you, then disregard. My TL+ ran out and I don't feel like paying just to make sure 
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On August 10 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:48 s0Lstice wrote:On August 10 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 10 2013 01:35 s0Lstice wrote:
go ahead and tell me what you think of johnnywup claiming a town name to Acro in PMs without prompting while you're at it Rayn. What do you mean by town name? Also how am i wrong on you? That´s exactly what i read from your post. From what acro says, he claimed his role name because he thought it would look townie I.e. he has a town name. Why does he do that as scum? Or better, is it likely he does that as scum? In regards to your paragraph on me, I never said dandel would do good things with the lordship as town. He was talking about shooting kush with our kp, and I argued that it should be used on a scumread if possible. I said I would do better. I have also said I am thinking dandel is town in the thread during this clusterfuck. I said it in pms too, my other house members will verify. It´s not alignment indicative as the role names are not alignment indicative. What if he is mafia and some role name that´s "town" in the lore and decided to claim it to look town? It´s all WIFOM and there is nothing alignment indicative in his claim. Or if there is, feel free to tell me why that claim could possibly not come from mafia. Fair enough. I was wrong in the "good things" part. I assumed you meant that when you said you would elect Dandel when you are 100% sure he is town. Why would you then elect someone who STILL does not do good things over yourself? I know you have said you think Dandel is town, are you 100% sure he is? Because from what i read from your post you would be if he was the lord now. Yes role names are not alignment indicative. I wasn't saying they were. The point is johnny thought they were, otherwise why claim it at all? As scum, claim role name to appear town. As town, claim role name to appear town. Now which of these is more likely with the way it went down. 'Sup veteran Lord candidate, I'm X.' Does he do this as scum?
Honestly, I did not find his introducing himself immediately becoming of a loyalist, and I told him so. It's his subsequent activity, and him dealing with it, both in the confines of Highgarden and here in our public hall that I feel is indicative of his loyalist intentions.
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On August 10 2013 03:06 iamperfection wrote:
but the perfect one thanks you for participating in this exercise i hope to see more from you going forward
What the hell was that about? He answered your question just fine. Are you just trolling?
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On August 10 2013 04:14 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:56 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. You were in the TL+ Mafia game, right? I was coaching scum in that atrocity of a game and I seem to recall you as one of the few highlights of town, but the whole game was full of lurk. EVERYBODY's activity was way below acceptable. I don't see how you can have played in that game and then decided that being inactive is a good idea. If that wasn't you, then disregard. My TL+ ran out and I don't feel like paying just to make sure Yep, but that game was so bad... I might have been a town highlight because I posted something unlike 90% of the people. :D That was my first game ever actually. Or should I say "game".
Well, my dear sir, that was exactly my point. I may have had a waking dream in which arcane knowledge of things called TL+ came to me, but the point stands. You were inactive in that jousting tournament. So was everybody else. It ended in a draw due to utter apathy from both teams. How can you think that being inactive benefits a game, which was the argument you made based on your activity in Titanic?
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On August 10 2013 04:28 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 04:27 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 03:06 iamperfection wrote:
but the perfect one thanks you for participating in this exercise i hope to see more from you going forward What the hell was that about? He answered your question just fine. Are you just trolling? wat
What indeed. Maybe you explained it later, I have not yet gone through the latest pages of notules, but you challenged my vassal to a duel, including the use of your House swords. He accepted the challenge, and then you told him he "preempted" some later question in your little duel game and you quit in disgust.
What was it about? Were you just leading him on for no good reason? Why did you challenge him?
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Xatalos, why do you keep insinuating I am Blackfyre scum without giving any kind of reason other than that I *should be better*? You leveled this exact same argument against me in our previous encounter and were INCREDIBLY wrong. Why have you not learned to understand my thought process yet, after SO many encounters?
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On August 10 2013 03:15 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 03:14 Sharrant wrote:
I don't think Acrofales has ever had any intention of using the house health check. Acro told me that he informed you that he intended to use his hp check and hadn't heard back.
I had heard back. By the seven, no wonder everybody thinks I'm a Blackfyre if they can't even remember what I have repeatedly said, both in private and in public.
I didn't INTEND to use the KP, I THOUGHT there was a good use for it. You are all utter morons.
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On August 10 2013 04:17 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 04:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck, Oberyn had the best idea of the century! That's actually my idea 
Except your idea wouldn't work, nor would Oberyn's. We cannot coordinate during the night. We have to decide the order of shooting, WHEN people will shoot and WHO they will shoot right now. See my earlier list.
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On August 10 2013 04:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more. We are with 2 then... Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta. Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally. Who are DI his scumreads?
Oats is not my prime suspect, but I definitely don't think he's town, as you would have known if you had been reading the thread at all.
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On August 10 2013 04:49 Risen wrote:
Easy shooting guide for night.
Lord 1 fires at 10, 2 at 12, 3 at 14, etc. This isn't hard.
OOC: Except that's the middle of the night and fuck you, I'm not waking up at 4 AM
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On August 10 2013 05:17 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:11 Oberyn wrote:
yamato is getting on my nerves with his refusal to contribute. We shouldn't have to beg him.
I told him that he was the number one vig shot between the Lords and that he really needs to start posting if he is town.
His reply was essentially: "meh doubt it." It's not so much a refusal as an insidious apathy.
Why are you being so obstreperous? You could just share your thoughts, and communicate freely with your lord. Even I am communicating with your lord, and I think he's a blithering idiot... and that's IN ADDITION to the inborn propensity of all Martells to be duplicitous assholes. It is STILL what a loyalist would do: we must find Blackfyres.
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Okay, people I want to lynch:
jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres.
FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting.
Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.
I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now.
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On August 10 2013 05:25 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:24 Oberyn wrote:On August 10 2013 05:22 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:21 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 05:17 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:11 Oberyn wrote:
yamato is getting on my nerves with his refusal to contribute. We shouldn't have to beg him.
I told him that he was the number one vig shot between the Lords and that he really needs to start posting if he is town.
His reply was essentially: "meh doubt it." It's not so much a refusal as an insidious apathy. Why are you being so obstreperous? You could just share your thoughts, and communicate freely with your lord. Even I am communicating with your lord, and I think he's a blithering idiot... and that's IN ADDITION to the inborn propensity of all Martells to be duplicitous assholes. It is STILL what a loyalist would do: we must find Blackfyres. Look, I already told you guys who to lynch. Do you want a medal for your one-liner? Do you disagree that SNB is scum?
I do not trust the Lord Stark, nor do I trust his bannerman Ser Oatsmaster. But I do not feel he is suspicious enough to lynch. Why do you feel that way? I need a lot more convincing than your word, which is suspect to say the least.
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On August 10 2013 05:33 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, people I want to lynch:
jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres.
FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting.
Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.
I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now. I find your lack of response to me disturbing. Seems opportunistic to call me scum without actually trying to interact with me at all.
Why? Do I need to hold your hand as well? Tie your shoelaces perhaps?
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Risen! Who do you want to kill. If you're a loyalist, you generally have good intuitions once you've settled down. If you're a Blackfyre you will just accuse your fellow conspirators. I want to know who you'd like to kill today! And please don't refer me to your earlier long discourse: I want an updated version!
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A pressing matter has arisen in the Reach. I must return there post-haste. I should be back in time for the formal vote, but if I am not, please record that I want to lynch jrkirby, whose few contributions do not seem compatible with loyalty to the realm. I should be back in plenty of time, so feel free to continue sending me ravens.
Remember my earlier speech. Please make sure to decide on a list of priorities for sending our swords after tonight, and each lord should publicize when he will send his swords in order to use them optimally.
I will be around for another 15 minutes or so, while my servants saddle my horse.
##vote jrkirby
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On August 10 2013 05:51 yamato77 wrote:
Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread.
In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him.
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On August 10 2013 06:00 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:54 Acrofales wrote:
A pressing matter has arisen in the Reach. I must return there post-haste. I should be back in time for the formal vote, but if I am not, please record that I want to lynch jrkirby, whose few contributions do not seem compatible with loyalty to the realm. I should be back in plenty of time, so feel free to continue sending me ravens.
Remember my earlier speech. Please make sure to decide on a list of priorities for sending our swords after tonight, and each lord should publicize when he will send his swords in order to use them optimally.
I will be around for another 15 minutes or so, while my servants saddle my horse.
##vote jrkirby
I still don't really understand. He came into the thread late and talked about setup, classic newbie mistake for either alignment. What are the other points against him? How is this different from a lurker lynch? Also, is anyone other than rayn willing to lynch Onegu right now?
He's a lurker who has contributed NOTHING, nor given any intention of contributing anything. Why do you think he's a loyalist? Who would you prefer we kill today?
My horse is ready. Adieu!
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OOC: So I was going to read this thread and make sense of this despite being drunk, but on top of that, TL is playing. Don't kill johnnywup. I am catching up slowly.
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