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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#2898
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


That's actually fine reasoning for not lynching him, unless he's a roleblocker ofc, then it's not.
If you don't want to lynch him then you should at least look at those who defend him with flimsy reasoning, either cause they're scum knowing he's town or cause they're scumbuddies.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 17:54 GMT
#2900
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 17:59 GMT
#2904
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales


I don't see the connection between Sharrant and Acro, can you elaborate?
Also, where did this go?

On August 15 2013 01:33 Risen wrote:
Also, sab clearly scum. Hedging himself against sharrant's eventual red flip, while simultaneously calling me out as scum even though I'm the one saving town when sharrant had no one looking through his filter, apparently, since I'm the only one who called out the giant gaping hole in his logic.

To be fair, that's probably in line with my scum "meta" or some inane nonsense. I hate meta so much...... it's absurd. People become aware of their metas and then act accordingly. What's my town meta? Is it any different than my scum meta? I always try to find scummy things in thread and point them out regardless of my alignment.



Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:01 GMT
#2906
On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?

I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.


I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum.
In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1.
If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:06 GMT
#2909
On August 15 2013 01:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 20:34 Sharrant wrote:
Good morning, everyone.

Like Johnny said, I'm not going to be active for a while. I should be phone posting in about 12 hours, and hopefully posting from my laptop in 14ish.

Running late now: Vivax, SnB, Koshi, JrKirby/Mocsta are all persons of interest to me right now. Koshi has the strongest case in my eyes for being SK. Vivax never openly expressed his thoughts on Yamato (If I'm recalling correctly), but did so in PMs, this is suspicious to me. SnB has been such a non-factor that I feel he has a good chance of being scum. And JrKirby would have been my choice if not for Mocsta's replacement. Without the replacement he would be my for sure choice for lynch today,

Actual analysis will come when I'm not late for important things.

How did Sharrant even get elected? House Tyrell is the worst. 1,5 page filter and afk for another 12 hours.
His latest persons of interests are
Vivax because he thought Yamato was scum in PMs.
Koshi because he is the SK.
SnB because he is a non-factor.
And then of course jrkirby but not mocsta."I think you are 99% scum, but I am going to let you stay alive so you can misdirect the thread for a while"

If today somebody else then Sharrant/Mocsta is getting lynched I am going to be really really sad.


Koshi actually summed it up nicely.
These are Sharrant's scumreads for today.
Please tell me those are good reasons for thinking somebody is scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:09 GMT
#2912
On August 15 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:01 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia?


Eduardo Nbobo

So you just looked at one game? Why?

If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active...


I don't care, I don't think you're scum.
Do you want me to think you're scum?

I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.


I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum.
In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1.
If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard.

I challenge you to look at Catch 22. Go ahead and tell me what do you think after that.


Are you dumb or scum Rayn? Now you got me curious.
Why would you point me to yourself if you're town, it only takes away time to look for scum.
You would do it if you're scum being all like "Oh look at me I want to be scrutinized I'm so townie gimme da credz baby"

Why don't you talk about your Mocsta case I dismissed as being shit.
Shouldn't you be mad?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:18 GMT
#2921
Risen, answer the question please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:19 GMT
#2925
Also, can anybody explain to me why we're not lynching johnnyscum today?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:20 GMT
#2927
On August 15 2013 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi has done the most towniest thing in thread today, I already questioned people about it and noone was able to see it. :/


Was it this exchange? oh god please tell me it was this!

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 18:15 Koshi wrote:
Also, who did the Lords shoot tonight? the 3 towns dieing are not coming from the Lords, so in the House Lanister is still a mole. Xatalos or Grack. I am going with Xatalos. Pure gut.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 14 2013 23:24 strongandbig wrote:
Scum killed three people who were going to be lords Day 2. Oatsmaster very odd choice otherwise IMO, he didnt breadcrumb afaik and I don't think he was readable as blue. Also 3/3 too much to be coincidence.

at least 1 of those people (oats) were not going to be lords today cause we elected clarity.

It seems likely scum was finishing off the people they split KP onto night 1. Makes me think they did not know the hp check before choosing their KP. Killing lords a possible scum tactic to produce confusion among town, disrupt "town circle" of lord pms. Possible that kill on gumshoe really did come from town vig instead of mole giving scum the hp checks.

Oh wow. This is completely true. Otherwise iamp would be dead day 1. Good news, I didn't like Grack as scum tbh but evidence was against him.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 23:31 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos is clear then as well. gutfeeling is gone.

This flip-flop just read very genuine to me


Hai Grack.
First post in two days to join Rayn in a townreading minigame.
I'm impressed.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:22 GMT
#2932
On August 15 2013 03:21 Risen wrote:
Xatalos just scum slipped in PMs.

##unvote
##vote: Xatalos


Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Spit it out.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:31 GMT
#2945
On August 15 2013 03:24 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 03:18 Vivax wrote:
Risen, answer the question please.


Which question?


On August 15 2013 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 02:54 Risen wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:22 Acrofales wrote:
On August 15 2013 01:15 Risen wrote:
So we have a claimed cop who didn't die last night with a red check on the clear lynch candidate for d2. Has anyone thought why there would be a one shot cop in this game when there's so many people? There isn't.

This is so simple a lynch.

I told him in private that if he wasn't roleblocked or killed, he was scum. He has claimed roleblocked. I don't see a third roleblocked claim.

The way the roleblock claims have worked out, it seems unlikely they are fake and it seems unlikely a town JK blocked him. So he was blocked by scum. Seems legit to me.


+1

Also, ##Unvote


Never seen scum roleblockers withhold their RB and let their teammates claim it?
+ Show Spoiler +
I did it


You have no way of knowing if the roleblock was fake.
Explain why it's unlikely that they are, or why it shouldn't have been a JK.

You should go with what's in the thread.
Sharrant doesn't post the stuff he should post, if he was town, this is like my third or fourth game with him, and I know how he plays town, this isn't it.

But keep thinking that scum never busses like that, that's what they want.


Ofcourse I've seen it. When Acro says unlikely he means exactly that, unlikely.
Could sharrant be scum? Yeah. Is he scum? Dunno, probably not.
Should we lynch him today? NO WTF WHAT A DUMBASS QUESTION
If he's scum they have to continue withholding roleblocks, there's like 4 or 5 more scum most likely, why lynch the cop who gave us a redcheck that turned out to be right?


The clear answer is that you lynch scum whenever you find them. But if you're unwilling, how about we lynch acro, then when he flips red we shoot sharrant.

##unvote
##vote: Acrofales


I don't see the connection between Sharrant and Acro, can you elaborate?
Also, where did this go?

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 01:33 Risen wrote:
Also, sab clearly scum. Hedging himself against sharrant's eventual red flip, while simultaneously calling me out as scum even though I'm the one saving town when sharrant had no one looking through his filter, apparently, since I'm the only one who called out the giant gaping hole in his logic.

To be fair, that's probably in line with my scum "meta" or some inane nonsense. I hate meta so much...... it's absurd. People become aware of their metas and then act accordingly. What's my town meta? Is it any different than my scum meta? I always try to find scummy things in thread and point them out regardless of my alignment.




Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:32 GMT
#2947
That's no scumslip, the other two were the house members who weren't Acro, cause he was talking about how Acro couldn't know if everyone had that info.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:37 GMT
#2952
On August 15 2013 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
I was just going to say that Risen is basically mentally retarded. There's no way anyone sane could think I was scum from our exchange. Like what? I'm starting to lose faith in humanity and most of all in Risen's ability to think at all.


On August 15 2013 03:35 Xatalos wrote:
But it does feel like he truly believed that so it's not really scummy. Just unbelievably dumb. Like totally ridiculous in every imaginable fashion. "Too dumb to be scum".... Not sure. He's taking that so far, is it intentional...... To be honest I doubt it. That's just such a great amount of stupid.


What a nice person you are.
Throw insults and then give him a townread, is that advancedz scumz tacticz?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#2958
Look, Xatalos. My question regarding your (suddenly not any more?) scumread, of which you fail to understand why he would attack you like that (although he's your scumread you don't see scummy intentions?).
Can you answer this or will you post some more insults, lols and rofls, great lord of house shitvotes?

On August 15 2013 00:55 Vivax wrote:
I don't see what you mean with contradictory statements from Risen. You posted that he was wrong about you and Dandel, afterwards you posted this:

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that Risen is quite likely town (unfortunately, one might also say).


So I wonder now, why do you mention something that is supposed to make him scum when in the past it wasn't reason enough and you gave him a townread in spite of what you call a contradiction now.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 19:02 GMT
#2966
I need to know if Onegu's claim was real, is he really One-shot-medic?
This is important cause we need to think about the chance that there is a 1-shot cop in this game compared to normal cop.
If there really was 1-sh-med and medic too then that makes Sharrant's claim more credible.

Usually when there are 1-shot-roles then there are multiple or none in a game of this size, 1-shot and standard seems unlikely.

Also, did anyone else notice Chrom, s0lstice and Grackdisappearing?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 14 2013 19:10 GMT
#2970
On August 15 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 04:02 Vivax wrote:
I need to know if Onegu's claim was real, is he really One-shot-medic?
This is important cause we need to think about the chance that there is a 1-shot cop in this game compared to normal cop.
If there really was 1-sh-med and medic too then that makes Sharrant's claim more credible.

Usually when there are 1-shot-roles then there are multiple or none in a game of this size, 1-shot and standard seems unlikely.

Also, did anyone else notice Chrom, s0lstice and Grackdisappearing?


I'll always be here for you babe. Onegu fake claimed

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 00:04 Onegu wrote:
On August 13 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
neither. i honestly believe this. for this game and future games we need to start plynching fake claimers so they stop doing it


So should I be lynched also, why not actually scum hunt and try to win, once people figure out fakeclaiming is bad they will stop dont need to policy lynch them.

Still want an explanation for this. You are saying fake claiming is bad but you didn't dissuade Oberyn from fakeclaiming and in fact went out of your way to fake claim yourself. Why?


Is Onegu your scumread?If so, your only one?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 15 2013 20:08 GMT
#3362
Just to take away the surprise for you tryhards.
I'm Arya Stark, survivor JK.

Gl figuring out who got roleblocked by scum and who by me.
GG, happy lynching.
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