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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 16:31 GMT
#738
was thinking i was the only one
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:38 GMT
#813
ya risen is full of shit
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:42 GMT
#818
1) I bring up sol as scum
2) That somehow means I'm defending sol
3) apparantly sol is town even tho he's never heard a word from sol himself (not in the thread at least)
4) CONNECTION CASES

Risen, brother, you are not town are you?
Good I didn't think so
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#822
On August 09 2013 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
1) I bring up sol as scum
2) That somehow means I'm defending sol
3) apparantly sol is town even tho he's never heard a word from sol himself (not in the thread at least)
4) CONNECTION CASES

Risen, brother, you are not town are you?
Good I didn't think so

very try hard for scum no?

Its just was full of stupid

If he was trying at all, he wouldn't read me incorrectly.

Not like it's hard.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#827
On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.

Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord?

not at all, I haven't even called you scum yet.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#828
feel free to check any one of my town games and any one of my scum games before talking nonsense, though.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 19:00 GMT
#831
Acro is also not looking too hot, tbh
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 19:03 GMT
#836
Writing like this makes my posts look super srs too!
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 19:18 GMT
#856
really though, just ignore risen.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 08 2013 21:44 GMT
#915
On August 09 2013 06:13 Acrofales wrote:
I am going to step in to protect my vassal johnnywup. I initially suspected him because he yelled his true name in our dining hall as he entered Highgarden. It seemed naive at best, and fishing for others' role names at worst. Since then this has been clarified and I suspect it was just a naive gaff to gain our trust.

However, in public he seems overly paranoid about it; possibly because both Sharrant and I were immediately suspicious of his motives. He claimed to have never heard of evil magician assassins who use name magic to murder you in your sleep. The whole discussion played out in a way that I believe him.

Now, this just plain doesn't jibe with the suspicions s0lstice is trying to mount against him.

DI, Koshi, Chromatically: does s0lstice's explanation do justice to what happened in the confines of Storm's End?

Well it certainly bears resemblance to the nonsense he's been blathering so far, little as that helps.

I am not sure what he means of me lying.
I have not done such thing.
Reads, he certainly has not given out any, try as he might make it sound like it. My inbox keeps feeling terribly devoid of them.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 08:59 GMT
#1037
On August 09 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel that kush will show his alignment either way.

So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right?
Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree.

Really? What indicates to you that he will?


btw, I'm fully in favor of policy nk'ing lurkers.
imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. Or maybe 2 with 3 shooting each? Hard to tell how much you need to kill them, 2 targets seems "safer" to result in something. Just try one out and see what happens. The specific distribution can be made in secret, dunno if that'd have an impact but i dont think it really matters to the thread who shoots who until after it's done (so we can see who didn't kill who), which might as well be claimed after.

There's literally no downside to this.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:00 GMT
#1039
I understand being suspicious of acro, but I ain't seen nothing that suggests him being a better lynch than sol. Or Koshi, for that matter.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:15 GMT
#1044
On August 09 2013 18:07 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 17:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 09 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel that kush will show his alignment either way.

So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right?
Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree.

Really? What indicates to you that he will?


btw, I'm fully in favor of policy nk'ing lurkers.
imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. Or maybe 2 with 3 shooting each? Hard to tell how much you need to kill them, 2 targets seems "safer" to result in something. Just try one out and see what happens. The specific distribution can be made in secret, dunno if that'd have an impact but i dont think it really matters to the thread who shoots who until after it's done (so we can see who didn't kill who), which might as well be claimed after.

There's literally no downside to this.


No need to waste extra KP on anyone. Just shoot until he's dead, then move on? Shouldn't the player die immediately (or soon) after receiving a fatal amount of KP?

Why would you drag it out over multiple cycles?
that only muddies the waters.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:18 GMT
#1046
oh i did read it

I'll be gracious and respond to it:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:22 GMT
#1048
On August 09 2013 18:15 Grackaroni wrote:
ok 15 minutes past and nobody read my post. cya tomorrow guys

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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:24 GMT
#1051
On August 09 2013 18:22 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 18:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 09 2013 18:07 Xatalos wrote:
On August 09 2013 17:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 09 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel that kush will show his alignment either way.

So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right?
Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree.

Really? What indicates to you that he will?


btw, I'm fully in favor of policy nk'ing lurkers.
imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. Or maybe 2 with 3 shooting each? Hard to tell how much you need to kill them, 2 targets seems "safer" to result in something. Just try one out and see what happens. The specific distribution can be made in secret, dunno if that'd have an impact but i dont think it really matters to the thread who shoots who until after it's done (so we can see who didn't kill who), which might as well be claimed after.

There's literally no downside to this.


No need to waste extra KP on anyone. Just shoot until he's dead, then move on? Shouldn't the player die immediately (or soon) after receiving a fatal amount of KP?

Why would you drag it out over multiple cycles?
that only muddies the waters.


Lord KP is instant and can be used at any time.

oh ok
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#1059
On August 09 2013 18:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 18:21 Xatalos wrote:
On August 09 2013 18:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Finally read the thread, I am most suspicious of Jrkirby. First off Nobody in House Martell has gotten a good read off of him because nobody in House Martell really talked to each. The best contribution in thread he made was calling out S0lstice for not electing his town read and naming 2 people town who the majority of town has already agreed were town.

After that he started making posts such

On August 09 2013 06:35 jrkirby wrote:
Finally, why have all the houses not posted a list of their members yet?

I think that it's actually beneficial to town to post these lists, and here's why:

1) Once scum have a list of 5 of the houses, they have a list of every house.

2) in a 24 player game, scum almost guaranteed have 4-6 members. Scum are spread out (I think it's random or something, right?) so they already know probably 3-4 houses at the start.

3) 2 (or is it 3?) houses have already posted their list. There's a good chance this fills in the missing info for scum.

4) All the house lists will probably be posted by day 2 anyway. Scum will only be missing this info for a short time.

5) Scum know all the lords already. This further helps them fill in the gaps.

6) Knowing the houses is not too beneficial to scum. Scum are more likely to want to eliminate every non-scum player in a house than an entire house (based off my possibly flawed logic - they can use this to WIFOM, be careful).

7) Knowing the houses is beneficial to town. We can help predict who will be lord in later days, we can help predict who is likely to be shot. We know who can PM a certain player, so it's easier to find people with reads on them. We don't think two people are on a scumteam together when they're just house buddies. Things are simpler, we don't get confused when REDACTED is posted. The list goes on.

8) Displaying all houses gives more info to town than it gives to scum.

9) Transparency is beneficial to town, and giving out house lists helps with transparency.

I can think of one good reason why we might not want to give out house lists:

1) There might be 3P that wants to eliminate a house, or secondary objectives for scum to eliminate a house. This is entirely speculation though, so I don't put too much weight into it.

This is a post that I would be ok with if it was in the start of the game, but he chose to talk about this during a time when scumhunting was actually taking place and he could actually participate in conversation.
On August 09 2013 06:41 jrkirby wrote:
One question I would like to ask the thread: Does anyone KNOW how much HP they have? I do not know how much HP I have. If you know, obviously I'm not asking you to announce how much HP you have to the thread. Actually, don't even say that you know how much HP you have. I just want to announce that I do not know how much HP I have.

This could be beneficial to town because then they can do better speculation on what people's roles are like.

Choosing to talk about setup rather than scumhunting and he has already disappeared without really pressuring or conversing with anybody

Everyone else has seemed engaged in the current conversations and actively scumhunting and these posts just didn't fit in with what I think a townie would be posting about during the time of the thread. He seems like he is more interested in blending into town than scumhunting.

There was an exchange between Oats and Yamato at the start of the game that rubbed me the wrong way. It was so disruptive and anti-town, that I have trouble believing that it came from 2 town players. It didn't seem normal to me and I even got a little bit of a staged feeling (as in they could be both scum randomly attacking each other at the start of the game). I think remember someone claiming they were probably town for being aggressive but some scum are more comfortable getting in arguments with people to help buff up their post count and mask their lack of contributions.

@Xata/Clarity/anyone awake. Is there anybody you would like me to comment on before i go to bed?


I certainly don't like jrkirby's weak thread presence. It's also weird to be so focused on setup, HP and such. He isn't even a Lord, so why is he interested in players' HP? Maybe he's scum?

In any case, grackaroni, what do you think of s0Lstice, Koshi, Acro and Oberyn?


Koshi read town to me in his arguments with DI. (DI too)

I'm willing to forgive s0Lstice's choosing chromatically over Di because he was obviously caught up in an EPEEN measuring contest with DI and I think judging from both Koshi and s0Lstice's reactions to DI, DI was being obnoxious and it made him act irrationally. (not choose DI out of spite, justify it to himself with the possible waste of house power for nothing)

Acro I'm really not sure about, I'll look over him tomorrow because I actually am tired.

As for Jrkirby. @clarity, how many of those inexperienced players made posts like that in the middle of the game and then left without really talking about any player with anyone?

This guy seems to be in a QT with solstice.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 09:58 GMT
#1062
On August 09 2013 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dandel, you did play in Ego right?

I hosted Ego
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 10:30 GMT
#1069
I actually forgot grack was in RED, but I vaguely recall now.

What I remember well about it is how I found all* the scum because I'm such a swag playa.
yamato got dunked in the first half hour, l0l


*sinani was kind of by association so i dunno if that really counts.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 09 2013 10:34 GMT
#1070
tho i guess I'll look at grack's posts in particular.

I just found it peculiar that grackamole talks about our exchanges in a way that suggests that he heard about them by solstice, he has the same kind of "bias" towards it, and not all of it got conveyed into the thread in the proportions it happened.
It sounded like the retelling of information solstice would have given him, because the points grack uses to excuse sol are the kind of shit sol tried to excuse himself out of actually answering (to) me.
Peculiar, peculiar.
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