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On August 09 2013 11:07 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:58 Grackaroni wrote:
@All lords, I would like to know how frequently Iamperfection has been PMing you and any impressions you have gotten from those PM's iamp has done very little in PMs with me, simply asking an irrelevant question about the Lord voting. He ignored a pm I sent him asking his opinion about the other Lords. When I asked a second time, he said that he doesn't have a scum read on any Lords. He said he doesn't have a mafia read apart from the lurkers. Kush is apparently his prefered target, but he doesn't really express this in the thread, other than calling for a night hit. Him and Acro are definitely the two Lords that look the worst at this point.
what question did i ignore?
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also i find it absolutely hilarious that people think lurkers cant be scum they almost always are.
herp derp iamp is scum because he wants to kill scum
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On August 09 2013 11:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 11:11 iamperfection wrote:
also i find it absolutely hilarious that people think lurkers cant be scum they almost always are.
herp derp iamp is scum because he wants to kill scum There definitely could be scum in lurkers but it's scummy to just not bother looking at active players because you have decided the entire scum team is lurking.
So anything to say piece. You seemed to have not read the thread from are pms.
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nor have you contributed anything at all recently?
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thats my case on you.
you do nothing
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On August 09 2013 12:36 s0Lstice wrote:
iamp, do you have any notion of when grack decided he didnt want to vote you and said as much to gumshoe and xatalos? did he actually push for this, and did it happen with enough time for anything to actually come of it?
he hasnt pushed anything ever and seems to want to throw dirt on me but do nothing with it
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On August 09 2013 13:22 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 12:44 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi! I'm finally back in thread! I'll be here with the sole purpose of catching up so you can count on some substantive posts soon. I only got to the 20s while I was at school/work reading on my phone.
Since rayn has already taken the liberty of addressing our house members, I won't bother to discuss that. As I continue reading, I would like to direct attention to Afrocales' first post. If anyone is around, please analyze it and tell me what you think of it. I'd like to bounce some ideas off of people about what it means. This is so scummy man. How about you analyze it, tell us what you think, and then bounce ideas around? Why are you jumping in on this Acro wagon without anything substantive? Seems to me you're soft-pushing an acro lynch without committing yourself.
it pains me to say this...... i agree with ........... ugh with risen here.
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speaking of you risen have you reconsidered any of your bad reads yet?
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On August 09 2013 13:32 Risen wrote:
Not really. Just got back from da beech, read through the posts that have been made since I've been gone, and responded to FT. Now I'm going to take a bath, watch some House of Cards, and go to sleep. I'll be back tomorrow morning.
as long as you admit they are bad 
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how are those thoughts on the thread coming firm?????
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On August 09 2013 14:02 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:01 s0Lstice wrote:
Firm, why are you drawing attention to that post if it presumably does not make Acro scummy to you? Does it make him look town? You will see in a moment. Can you look over the post for me and see if you see anything that stands out to you?
i see nothing noteworthy in a scum perspective
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totes town
Dandelion[green]- Been active with his thoughts interested in the game had a same thought as me when calling out a weak post as s&b. I will eat my hat if he is scum
Xatols- Active making logical conclusions in both pms and in thread
Oatsmaster- Shit up the thread with yamato putting the spotlight on both of them. Has put his thought in actively since then as well.
weaker town reads.
[green]Risen Lol worst analysis that i have ever seen in a game for such a long post but seems like quite the commitment for scum to make.
ClarityNl Was under a ton of pressure for the leak the name stuff. For someone who was under so much pressure he was able to explain himself fairly well and didnt run away. I think if he were scum he would have had much more difficulty.
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scum city
Vivax Vivax is a player that can contribute a lot as town and can even catch scum. He has done next to nothing in this game and seems like a guy just going with the flow and not sharing his thought process or actively trying to hunt like he usally does. Vivax should be one of the leaders of this town and he is not doing it for whatever reason.
this post is wierd http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047¤tpage=47#939
Why is he not actively giving his thoughts and he actually never gives thoughts just asks a useless question.
and my f5 snipe just caught this
On August 09 2013 22:16 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 05:28 Acrofales wrote:Hrmmm, playing a game of elimination, Vivax is the remaining member of House Stark. On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. This seems like a really strange soft-defense of Oatsmaster. Either he was completely oblivious to the goings on in his own house, or he had a town read based on that. I am confused about why he stood up to defend Oatsmaster's honor: he's not calling Koshi scum based on it, in fact there are no conclusions at all. With the knowledge that he had already talked to Oats in private this just looks like a baseless soft-defense of a house member who it seems he should have been suspicious of. Anybody from House Stark (or Vivax himself) want to elaborate on Vivax's role in the internal politicking? Vivax, why did you make this soft-defense post of Oats? I'm not sure how you call it a soft defense when I was curious about Koshi's rather faulty reasoning for calling Oats scum. Is it a soft defense of the guy attacked by a case when you suspect the maker of the case? I'll be blunt about Oats, I have no reason to think he's scum at the moment. I still have to catch up a good bit, and I'm interested into knowing the points of view of the lords, or if you were so nice to point it out quickly, where it has been posted. Who are the lords' targets? Which lords are trying to push their preferences the most? How will you reach an agreement? @ OberynShow nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote:
Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play.
Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? I feel your interest into Dandel ebbed out very quickly, I'm curious to hear about the development of your read so far. With Acrofales entering the scene Dandel seemed to be forgotten for you (you mention him when questioning s0lstice's read, but you don't push him, or confront him with questions), although you called his behaviour out as extremely scummy. Another matter I would want to know about is your judgment on Koshi. You like to mention Dandel frequently and acknowledged that Koshi might have been overreacting but I didn't see a judgment on Koshi yet from you. I for one am still suspicious of his attack on Oats and his inactivity at the moment. That said, it would be interesting to know who the lords are considering for kp-lynch. An agreement is needed soon.
Where are vivaxs thoughts all he says is he is intrested to hear what other people are doing. Vivax is usally the one pushing for what he wants. I think vivax has a high probability of flipping scum.
red]Kush He can spontaneously combust for all i care
Gumshoe Weak but he bothered to contact me and hasn't posted why the fuck would he do that
Sharrant Same as gum but with acro instead of me[/red]
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On August 09 2013 22:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 14:44 FirmTofu wrote:On August 09 2013 14:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Acro's first post felt way more constructed. Like not even close to being natural cause he was Roleplaying. So I dont think its alignment indicative. So you think the fact that it was more constructed makes it non-alignment indicative? Wouldn't scum be more worried about the content of their posts than town? Why would constructed flavor not be alignment indicative? FT, I'm not sure what you use as reason for calling Acro scum. Do you think he's scum for caring about the content of his posts or do you want to kill him for roleplaying, seems like a mix of the both. Wanting people to stop posting bollocks is fine but assuming they're scum for playing around in their first posts seems like a stretch. Are you claiming that Acro is also scum for roleplaying or only for: Show nested quote +Afrocales' post looks very constructed and deliberate. He holds back by soft-accuses Oats instead of pushing him like he should be. The apathy is in plain sight for everyone to see This is what Acro said: Show nested quote +
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.
To me it looks like he's asking for reasons for Oats townreads on the house members. You call it a soft-accuse, how do you draw the line?
you why you so passive?
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On August 09 2013 22:37 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah sorry about my terrible activity this just started at an unexpectedly bad time.
i will allow my lynch if you want but ONLY based on policy because I do this shit as town for like the past 5 games straight
i hate you
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dont ignore me vivax talk
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On August 09 2013 22:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
iamp I agree with most of your post.
Vivax however... he told me early on he wouldn't be that active earlygame (it's why he didn't run)
Why not keep him around another day and see if he picks it up? As you say he's a pretty good player to have around if he's town
Gumshoe and Sharrant.... Sharrant just hasn't been around, has he pmed much?
Gumshoe however was super active in pregame and suddenly doesn't post nearly all of day1?
or he didnt run because he is scum it didnt want to be in the spotlight
i dont get the deal with gumshoe at all he seemed very interested in pms but totally mia
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On August 09 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
iamp why do you have a strong townread on Oats?
He entered the thread getting into a discussion with Yamato about why it is bad to release the names of the houses, which might be because he is town and he is concerned about it but aren't chances higher that he did it to stop scumhunting? Oats also asks stupid questions to everybody that tried to actually start scumhunting to draw them away from that. Sure it puts Oats in the spotlight but it also shits up the thread and it is hard for the other person that is discussing with Oats to not respond to these stupid questions.
Oats DID NOT PUT HIS THOUGHTS clearly in this thread. What kind of bullshit is that? He currently has 5 townreads. 3 members of his house because they are "nice and shit", DI because "he is agressive and shit" and Acro because his constructed posts are constructed.
I don't see why everybody thinks Oats is town.
i never said oats was a good player
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On August 09 2013 22:47 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:45 iamperfection wrote:On August 09 2013 22:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
iamp I agree with most of your post.
Vivax however... he told me early on he wouldn't be that active earlygame (it's why he didn't run)
Why not keep him around another day and see if he picks it up? As you say he's a pretty good player to have around if he's town
Gumshoe and Sharrant.... Sharrant just hasn't been around, has he pmed much?
Gumshoe however was super active in pregame and suddenly doesn't post nearly all of day1? or he didnt run because he is scum it didnt want to be in the spotlight i dont get the deal with gumshoe at all he seemed very interested in pms but totally mia Yes, I'm not exclusing that possibility but I don't think he's a good lynch today. From my memory you've almost religiously avoided talking about solstice, could you share your thoughts on him and his possible lynch please?
i think i talked about in pms
i would not be comfortable at all lynching him i like the tone and some of the things he has said recently plus he didnt run away with a lot of pressure on him
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