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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 07:46 GMT
#502
hmm not 20 posts, more like 12-15.
Yamato, wanna talk about something else?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 07:53 GMT
#504
On August 08 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote:
I still don't know a single read of yours.

so?
I dont know a single strong read of your either.
How does knowing my townreads help you in reading me ????
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 08:23 GMT
#514
On August 08 2013 16:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 16:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote:
I still don't know a single read of yours.

so?
I dont know a single strong read of your either.
How does knowing my townreads help you in reading me ????

Your "townreads" as a scum could be useful if I decide that lynching you is the best option day 1.

If you're town, it could also be useful in getting a read on those players early, since you have had time to talk with them and they probably haven't even posted yet.

let me worry about the 'looking townie'
Also just find scum mkay?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#516
On August 08 2013 14:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
So who is scum so far from the 6 houses?
my house seems pretty townie

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 10:47 GMT
#535
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 10:47 GMT
#536
So scumread on koshi for now.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 10:55 GMT
#539
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 10:58 GMT
#541
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.

Lets see, I backed off my first scumread.
Then I called 1 scum obv town. And you? You decided that the best course of action was to make a joke out of it and make everyone think you are scum. Good play right?. Yeah.

Now in this different game, I dont have a clue why you should trust me on why the 3 other dudes in my house are town.
Not a damn clue.
I never said you should trust me. I never said anything about 'sheeping' me. Now get your cocky head out of your arse and explain further why dandel's play is scummy.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 11:14 GMT
#545
On August 08 2013 20:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.

Lets see, I backed off my first scumread.
Then I called 1 scum obv town. And you? You decided that the best course of action was to make a joke out of it and make everyone think you are scum. Good play right?. Yeah.

Now in this different game, I dont have a clue why you should trust me on why the 3 other dudes in my house are town.
Not a damn clue.
I never said you should trust me. I never said anything about 'sheeping' me. Now get your cocky head out of your arse and explain further why dandel's play is scummy.


Who is the best lord in our house in your opinion?

I didnt see the pm's, i dont know.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 11:15 GMT
#546
On August 08 2013 20:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.


I think sharing townreads is kinda useless. It makes it easier for scum to choose a nk and giving townreads is easy for scum.
Treat it like a regular game with pms, scumhunt in the thread, scumhunt in pms or share reads with people you're fairly sure are town, only bring up pms in the thread if you got a really strong scumread on someone because of it.

Ok I agree.

But at this point we are not doing normal scumhunting. Everybody is discussing the houses while we are not allowed to mention the members in the houses. At this point we can't do any scumhunting at all.

20 pages.

You cant find 1 scumread in 20 pages?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#550
On August 08 2013 20:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 20:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.


I think sharing townreads is kinda useless. It makes it easier for scum to choose a nk and giving townreads is easy for scum.
Treat it like a regular game with pms, scumhunt in the thread, scumhunt in pms or share reads with people you're fairly sure are town, only bring up pms in the thread if you got a really strong scumread on someone because of it.

Ok I agree.

But at this point we are not doing normal scumhunting. Everybody is discussing the houses while we are not allowed to mention the members in the houses. At this point we can't do any scumhunting at all.

20 pages.

You cant find 1 scumread in 20 pages?

This game started on page 22? In the remaining 5 pages I see Yamato&Oats shitting up the thread. johnnywup&Oats being superdefenisve about their house without sharing any reads. Onegu seems to try to avert thread direction to House Baratheon , just like johnnywup tried to do so by using Robert Baratheon as 3P example. The Lannisters shared their reads and I did the same for my House.

That's everything that happened in 6 hours unless I missed something.

oh is it?
So do you have any reads you want to expand on?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 12:08 GMT
#553
So acro, any specifc questions?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 12:12 GMT
#554
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.


koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 12:34 GMT
#561
On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:

On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.


koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.

1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit".
2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20.
3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread.
4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.

Here is my first real scumread.

1) And so my heuristics are wrong?
2) Ok?
3) No, I called you scum because your scumreads are bullshit.
4) Whats the point of answering your question?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 12:35 GMT
#562
On August 08 2013 21:12 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
So acro, any specifc questions?

Do you think Yamato is a Blackfyre sympathist?

not really no.
Although, he could definetely play like this as scum, but I dont want to lynch him today
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 12:44 GMT
#568
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]

Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE]
By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 12:56 GMT
#577
On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:

And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.

personal attacks and jumping to conclusions not cool
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 13:00 GMT
#581
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 21:06 Acrofales wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 08 2013 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
I also want to hear more from Ser Oatsmaster, because his reasons for not having a healthy dose of suspicion towards his kinfolks are weak. The fact that there was no strife in your house, is no reason to assume they are all true to the realm.[/QUOTE]

Oats, I'm actually interested in this hidden bit of text within Acro's opening post. Why do you assume that your House members being "nice" makes them town? grackaroni was "nice" in our House, more so than gumshoe or me, yet he was the most scummy of us four. Precisely because he went with the flow and was so passive/reactive... or "nice". I'd even go so far as to say that some controversy is better than no controversy at all. Too much is too much though, like might be the case with House Baratheon.[/QUOTE]
By nice, I mean like not passive and shit. I dunno. Ok strongest thing is that discussion has been natural and so far no scumreads on anyone.
[/QUOTE]
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 14:30 GMT
#658
One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.

I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town.
How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town?
I dont understand this Ryan.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 08 2013 14:37 GMT
#662
On August 08 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.

I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town.
How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town?
I dont understand this Ryan.

Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to:
1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not.
2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere.

Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence.

So you wanna discuss townreads because?

Also, let me deal with my townreads being called scum. They arent at the moment so I dont see why we need to waste our time.
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