GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 17

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 07:52 GMT

#3730

SnB was going to get lynched before he did not post. SnB was not gonna get lynced when he started posting. I have a townread on him, which i might want to revisit now seeing your house does not have a lord at all.

Do you think i am not unable to learn something from a clusterfuck game like Titanic?

Also could you rephrase your PM's with Vivax from D2? Same question to SnB?
SnB also please explain why your house has no lord?

Clarity did you and SnB discuss the lord situation on N3? Did you get into an agreement of any sort?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 07:54 GMT

#3731

EBWOP: PM's from D2 and D3.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:03 GMT

#3733

I said i have a townread on him, not had.
I think you might want to revisit D3 and think about your answers because i am soon gonna be pointing out something about you that makes no sense at all.

Why did you not answer Risen in PM's D3?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:07 GMT

#3734

Also do you have PM's with vivax D3?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:14 GMT

#3736

Hmm.. Risen told me you did not answer his PM. I asked him to rephrase all PM's from the lords to me from D3 and we discussed them.

Can you explain me these things. Why did you want to lynch SnB over Vivax when Vivax claimed scum? Also why are you now (incorrectly) saying i did not defend my townread SnB on D3, given that there was a player on D3 who was perfectly okay with lynching his townread SnB and shooting his townread kushmasta? Do you remember who that player is and why did you not comment in any way into that when i pointed it out?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:20 GMT

#3740

Right. This is why i did not care to post. Nobody fucking reads my posts unless i am overly annoying. When i am nobody wants to read my posts. What gives?

Also Mocsta saying he pushed Vivax lynch is bullshit. He did only start pushing it after i pointed out he was okay with lynching his townread.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:22 GMT

#3741

Because this is how the discussion went:
Mocsta: "I think SnB is town"
Someone: "Who do you want to lynch?"
Mocsta: "i would prefer Vivax but SnB is okay lynch"
Me: "Can we kill the dude who wants to lynch his townreads?"
Mocsta: "We need to lynch Vivax"

Magic!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:45 GMT

#3747

On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote:
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Strongandbig
I don’t get the early plan role thing. But whatevers. Hard guy to read cos of low give a crap factor. I think hes town personally. Cant really pinpoint why though. Overall; I just don’t feel hes been pushing anything… hence town.
...
Firm
Iamperfection
Chromatically
Risen

Soft
Raynpelikoneet or Acrofales
Koshi
Vivax
mmm got iamp wrong.. damn..

On August 14 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:

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Last I checjed. U r not lord.

Chromatically >>> vivax

On August 14 2013 15:15 Mocsta wrote:
I gave an intuition read on chromatically in my reads.

That's my basis and can be easily supported by quotes.
The guy is a classic blender.

As for vivax. He needs more time. This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc
Vivax has been busy.

Now he's no saint to me. But deserves a chance to post uninhibited

Unlike chromatically who has been flying under the radar by choice and then pushing lurkers.

On August 15 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Ok. Skimmed all filters and was left with a couple that stuck out to me

Snb
Grackeroni
Koshi
Vivax

Rayn I'm back to 50/50. I think my issue with him is we are treating the same tells 100% opposite. But he's standing up for his belief, as am I. That's indicative of town. So will give him a beeather.

Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter.
I fully endorse a vivax lynch this cycle.

Koshi still sticks out to me. The really poor logic throughout the game. Not wanting to run for lord and then changing mind when an opportunity came through. He has also shown an inflexible mindset. I'm happy with his lynch too.

Grackeroni. I can't pinpoint it off my first skim but.. he's blending it. He shows enough understanding of the thread so is keeping up. But I don't like the moments he chooses to come into the thread. He's not really driving anything so the contributions I feel are fake. Plus u have the whole gumshoe 1hp leak thing. He made a defense of it which was handled well I admit. But too slick compared to his other posts. Smells very funny to me.

Snb.. shoulda realised this earlier. But a town snb always pushes oats as a lynch. Didn't get that this game.. I need to do another read on him too but I don't think yamato pushed him that hard. U could argue he pushed snb as hard as he pushed acro.

In short. My preferred lynch this cycle is vivax.
I can live with snb though.

Notice that Mocsta has read the game earlier, in full. There is no new information because Vivax and SnB have not posted on D3. Notice how his reads on them suddenly change because he "read the same things he read earlier".
Bullshit.

On August 15 2013 21:17 Mocsta wrote:

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Kush is interesting.

Someone else, because he didtn die "scum let him jump off a cliff"

I disagree, because its clear they used scum used their NK to finish off Night1 targets.

I also think Kush is town. So I would seriously suggest not to direct Lord KP that direction.

On August 15 2013 21:57 Mocsta wrote:
yeah; but thats giving a lot of respect to Kush.

Unfortunately, he doesnt even deserve that level of respect... seriously.. read the scum qt for "sicilian' mafia lol

If you really have that much doubt in kush.. sure shoot him.. but last i checked, the concept of the game was to lynch scum; not clear rid of bad townies.

On August 15 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta is okay with lynching his town reads and shooting his town reads. Seems legit. Also seems legit that nobody reads my case on him and now people realize "on their own" how shitty his reads in fact are.

Why do i even bother posting?

This is when Mocsta starts really pushing Vivax lynch.
Prove me wrong scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:51 GMT

#3750

On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote:
In short: Scummish reads (firm at top, soft at bottom)
...Vivax
...

INSTA-FAIL!!! LOLOLOLOL

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:56 GMT

#3752

On August 17 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:

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On August 17 2013 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 14 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:

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Last I checjed. U r not lord.

Chromatically >>> vivax

LOL. This is classic guy doing ctrl+f, but not reading anything.

There was new information. And i explained this to s0lstice already

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&currentpage=180#3581

*God its nice having a transparent filter*

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On August 16 2013 11:49 Mocsta wrote:

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Yeah. My issue was he tried to dodge my questions.

I asked him for justification for lack of followup. And he cited he something about having to read my case on chrom...which wasn't a case. Merely 2lines of thought. I believe he then contributed to ongoing convo but memory is a touch hazy there.

Regardless he never retorted to my points and after reading his filter the consistency of his filter stuck out to me.
Whereas when reading the game start to scratch I didn't get that feel as there was no thread presence.

So in short. He chooses good times to post. But the whole feel of his filter just lacks the drive I expect froma town vivax.. if anything a town vivax would certainly run for mayor.

Also regarding pms about yam. I hold no weight I. That. As said befor 1hp is hardly threatening AND scum vivax has no qualms bidding. He was a scum big in one game and shot a scummer. I still nailed him but can admit his playstyle has dramatically improved since then.

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On August 15 2013 21:17 Mocsta wrote:

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As for shooting Kush.,. yeah. I did my best to try n get him off the table, but the lords didnt want to cave. What can ya do? You are weirdly fixated on this point I must say. Its not alignment indicative to be comfortable with a kush death. Hes not someone you want to end game with as TOWN or SCUM.

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Q.E.D

No Mocsta. You tell one stuff to someone, then you tell another stuff to other people.
Compare your answer to Solstice to this:

Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter.

You are talking about Vivax' filter. This is entirely different than what do you say to Solstice. You are talking about Vivax' overall play, not how he responds to you.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:57 GMT

#3753

And you bring up stuff like "Vivax didn't run for mayor". LIKE YOU WOULD MISS THAT THE FIRST TIME YOU READ HIS FILTER??!?!?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:58 GMT

#3754

And btw the stuff you quoted with Solstice is a fucking 12h after i told people you are scum. You had already started pushing Vivax then.

/dunked!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 08:59 GMT

#3755

Now i move on to other stuff.

Onegu, answer me please?
Xatalos are you here`?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 09:09 GMT

#3758

On August 17 2013 18:06 Onegu wrote:

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Clarity, as some people had scum reads on him day one from the whole SnB role name claim thing.

Why are you asking me this, it isnt relevant much and progresses the game no where

Of course it's relevant to me when i am trying to understand your thought process.
Who had scumreads on Clarity on D1 end?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 09:13 GMT

#3760

You were not here on D1 end.
Please let Onegu answer.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 09:18 GMT

#3762

I am not trying to get anyone to claim.
Now shut up already and let Onegu answer.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 09:26 GMT

#3765

On August 17 2013 18:20 Mocsta wrote:

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You are.

You are proposing that the town RB chose xat or clarity.

Onegu explained very reasonably why a town RB may have chosen clarity.
I reinforced that message.
That satisfies the request..

now you are asking "so who had scum reads on clarity".
Thats essentially "who is town RB"

Onegu is proposing town RB targeted clarity, not me. Do not twist my words. And let the guy answer ffs.
Onegu answer me please.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 17 2013 09:31 GMT

#3769

On August 17 2013 18:26 Onegu wrote:

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Well FT posted this right before his mislynch after his flip maybe people looked at that, SnB still had a scum read on him iirc. If you really want me to Ill look more but I dont think looking for town RB is something that needs to be done right now as again it isnt relevant.

On August 16 2013 00:40 Onegu wrote:
Guess since Im the person who first pushed for a SnB lynch with the lords I should vote him

##VOTE:StrongAndBig

Firmtofu is dead. SnB had a scumread on Clarity. You think there is a town roleblocker who blocked Clarity on N1, and you on N2.

Now, why did you vote for the guy who was most likely to be the town roleblocker in your mind on D3?

I know why. Because scum!