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On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia? Eduardo Nbobo So you just looked at one game? Why? If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active... I don't care, I don't think you're scum. Do you want me to think you're scum?
I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses.
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On August 15 2013 03:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia? Eduardo Nbobo So you just looked at one game? Why? If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active... I don't care, I don't think you're scum. Do you want me to think you're scum? I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses. I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum. In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1. If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard.
I challenge you to look at Catch 22. Go ahead and tell me what do you think after that.
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Koshi has done the most towniest thing in thread today, I already questioned people about it and noone was able to see it. :/
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Now Acro, who is guilty in this in this game:
- Flipflopping your vote 1 minute before the lynch
???
On August 10 2013 13:59 Acrofales wrote:
Wait. Where the hell is my vote. Are we sure we're killing tofu?
Oh i know, YOU!
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On August 15 2013 03:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 03:01 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:54 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:49 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia? Eduardo Nbobo So you just looked at one game? Why? If you remember i specifically told in scumchat that i am not able to be active... I don't care, I don't think you're scum. Do you want me to think you're scum? I am interested in why are you defending me based on false pretenses. I don't think you would be this headstrong as scum. In that game your posts were unsure, your reads spread out. You got lynched D1. If you managed to change your play that much, props to your scumplay. You're being super tryhard. I challenge you to look at Catch 22. Go ahead and tell me what do you think after that. Are you dumb or scum Rayn? Now you got me curious. Why would you point me to yourself if you're town, it only takes away time to look for scum. You would do it if you're scum being all like "Oh look at me I want to be scrutinized I'm so townie gimme da credz baby" Why don't you talk about your Mocsta case I dismissed as being shit. Shouldn't you be mad?
Because i have a scumread on you, and you are possibly getting lynched today if you do not stop this bullshit.
You having a townread on me is fine, you having a townread on me based on meta that does not hold water is not fine.
I want to have a better read on you, i do read people based on how they interact with me, so could you now please my wish instead of being a dick.
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On August 15 2013 03:13 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi has done the most towniest thing in thread today, I already questioned people about it and noone was able to see it. :/ Rather than asking us about it, which does NOTHING but increase your post count by one, how about you tell us? Like, I saw your post and ignored it figuring you'd eventually just get to the point. But now you just +1'd your +1 post. And I think you're town ffs.
Koshi asked Mocsta to analyze Jrkirby's posts. Mocsta went full locked down.
For reference, i did the same thing in some game. I can look it up for you if you are too lazy (Bluelightz mafia if i remember correctly - i asked if geript though WoS (his hydra partner) was scum, and his response was totally town).
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dandel, i really <3 you :D
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On August 15 2013 03:20 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Also, can anybody explain to me why we're not lynching johnnyscum today? too much scum, not enough lynches.
No Dandel, it was this. And people being dumb as fuck.
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Xatalos can you answer me please to my last post directed to you.
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Why do you actually think i am scum Acro?
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On August 15 2013 03:57 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you actually think i am scum Acro? 1. You are focusing on all the wrong stuff. You spend an inordinate amount of time trying to "figure out" stuff, that is not indicative of alignment at all. It looks as if you're really busy and uncovering important information, but you're not. You're just wasting everybody's time. 2. You have few reads, and those you do have are badly explained. When asked about your reads, you promptly forget about what reads you had before, indicating that you made them up in the first place. SnB also pointed out that you have given 0 reasons for the reads that you HAVE posted in the thread. Your two reads that you have followed up on are Onegu, and more recently Mocsta. Onegu looks quite likely town to me. Mocsta is a bad lynch target for today and you should know that. Other than that you have gone after johnnywup, who I have explained a few times now, is probably town. 3. Your apparent unwill to be lord and take the spotlight of House Greyjoy. Now you can just yell and wave your arms about with no consequences: you have no vote. Fucking easy way out imho. Giving other people a turn if they want to and you have a town read makes some sense (your reasons for not contesting Risen on D2) to further gauge their playstyle. When it turns out they are batshit insane and will cause more harm than good regardless of their actual alignment, a townie would want that vote back. A scum would be happy to just sit out the ride and watch Risen cause wanton destruction: he was obviously going tunnel mode on Sharrant at the end of yesterday. Do you have a scumread on Sharrant? I don't think so. Why are you so complacent about the house vote, YOUR vote ending on someone you don't have a scumread on?
1. Point out that stuff.
2. Fuck you. That's plain out wrong.
3. Fuck you. That's plain out wrong.
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You fucking called me out on D2 for "not doing shit". Now you are calling me out for not doing shit. I wanted to be lord on D2, i wanted to be lord on D3. If i had not consolidated our house would have not a lord at all. wtf are you talking about Acro. You are full of shit.
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EBWOP: now you are calling me out for DOING SHIT that does not accomplish anything because i am not a lord.
I'm fucking done with this bullshit. I am scum because i am not a lord?
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On August 15 2013 04:17 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You fucking called me out on D2 for "not doing shit". Now you are calling me out for not doing shit. I wanted to be lord on D2, i wanted to be lord on D3. If i had not consolidated our house would have not a lord at all. wtf are you talking about Acro. You are full of shit. Maybe if you did shit, I wouldn't call you out for not doing shit. Still waiting for Risen's assessment of you. You claim to have PM'd a lot with him, but he hasn't responded. Maybe you did really want to be lord and were just being cockblocked. Why can't you stand up to a bully like Risen? Seems pretty simple from where I'm standing.
Because Risen is not a bully. He is actually willing to discuss stuff if people would just discuss stuff with him instead of calling him idiot.
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On August 15 2013 04:15 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 03:57 Acrofales wrote:On August 15 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you actually think i am scum Acro? 1. You are focusing on all the wrong stuff. You spend an inordinate amount of time trying to "figure out" stuff, that is not indicative of alignment at all. It looks as if you're really busy and uncovering important information, but you're not. You're just wasting everybody's time. 2. You have few reads, and those you do have are badly explained. When asked about your reads, you promptly forget about what reads you had before, indicating that you made them up in the first place. SnB also pointed out that you have given 0 reasons for the reads that you HAVE posted in the thread. Your two reads that you have followed up on are Onegu, and more recently Mocsta. Onegu looks quite likely town to me. Mocsta is a bad lynch target for today and you should know that. Other than that you have gone after johnnywup, who I have explained a few times now, is probably town. 3. Your apparent unwill to be lord and take the spotlight of House Greyjoy. Now you can just yell and wave your arms about with no consequences: you have no vote. Fucking easy way out imho. Giving other people a turn if they want to and you have a town read makes some sense (your reasons for not contesting Risen on D2) to further gauge their playstyle. When it turns out they are batshit insane and will cause more harm than good regardless of their actual alignment, a townie would want that vote back. A scum would be happy to just sit out the ride and watch Risen cause wanton destruction: he was obviously going tunnel mode on Sharrant at the end of yesterday. Do you have a scumread on Sharrant? I don't think so. Why are you so complacent about the house vote, YOUR vote ending on someone you don't have a scumread on? 1. Point out that stuff. 2. Fuck you. That's plain out wrong. 3. Fuck you. That's plain out wrong. You could be a bit more constructive. Insulting doesn't really benefit the thread (I know, I'm one to speak, I just lost control there). Why is Acro plain out wrong?
If you have read my filter you would know why these things are bullshit.
I don't care to explain stuff over and over again unless i want to lynch someone (this is something i apparently need to do over and over again because people do not understand shit).
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On August 15 2013 04:27 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 04:10 Vivax wrote:On August 15 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:On August 15 2013 04:02 Vivax wrote:
I need to know if Onegu's claim was real, is he really One-shot-medic?
This is important cause we need to think about the chance that there is a 1-shot cop in this game compared to normal cop.
If there really was 1-sh-med and medic too then that makes Sharrant's claim more credible.
Usually when there are 1-shot-roles then there are multiple or none in a game of this size, 1-shot and standard seems unlikely.
Also, did anyone else notice Chrom, s0lstice and Grackdisappearing? I'll always be here for you babe. Onegu fake claimed On August 13 2013 00:04 Onegu wrote:On August 13 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
neither. i honestly believe this. for this game and future games we need to start plynching fake claimers so they stop doing it So should I be lynched also, why not actually scum hunt and try to win, once people figure out fakeclaiming is bad they will stop dont need to policy lynch them. Still want an explanation for this. You are saying fake claiming is bad but you didn't dissuade Oberyn from fakeclaiming and in fact went out of your way to fake claim yourself. Why? Is Onegu your scumread?If so, your only one? Sorry I was taking a crap. I'm a lot more unsure about Onegu as of late. Oberyn obviously trusted him a good deal so he must be doing some good stuff in pm's. I've been taking some notes on S&B's filter and unfortunately clarity beat me to it but I'll still put in some of my thoughts.
OMFG THIS MADE MY DAY! Confirmed town because of townslip! ^_^
i can't stop laughing.
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On August 15 2013 04:45 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 03:42 Vivax wrote:Look, Xatalos. My question regarding your (suddenly not any more?) scumread, of which you fail to understand why he would attack you like that (although he's your scumread you don't see scummy intentions?). Can you answer this or will you post some more insults, lols and rofls, great lord of house shitvotes? On August 15 2013 00:55 Vivax wrote:I don't see what you mean with contradictory statements from Risen. You posted that he was wrong about you and Dandel, afterwards you posted this: On August 09 2013 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that Risen is quite likely town (unfortunately, one might also say).
So I wonder now, why do you mention something that is supposed to make him scum when in the past it wasn't reason enough and you gave him a townread in spite of what you call a contradiction now. I think it's pretty null to make such a stupid mistake. How would scum benefit from doing that on purpose? It looked more like he was overjoyed about finding a scumslip and went with it, not like he tried to justify a scumread on me or anything like that. It was so sudden and weird. Could still be scum motivated, just seemed more like null or even townish to do that. I think you're just not reading the thread. My suspicions for Risen had already started before I noticed his inconsistent thought process. Then he posted that he had only suspected DI because of his connection to me. That's just 100% false. 1) It was the other way around, a big part of his case of his case on me was based on my connection to DI. 2) Even if it wasn't the other way around, it wasn't possibly ONLY because of DI's connection to me. There were many other reasons but nothing about a connection. It made me think his original case was all made up, since he couldn't even grasp the logic of his own case HIMSELF. What town would decide their reads, then justify them with bad logic, then not even understand the logic behind their reads? That's right, only scum would do that. (After witnessing Risen's total failure in thinking on several occasions, I've had to admit that maybe he's just incapable of logic altogether.) Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:On August 15 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 01:58 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 15 2013 01:53 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have been bringing up these "fruitless details" for a long time. can you now explain what do you mean by them so i could... you know... answer you? Well, it seems like I've underestimated your focus on relevant stuff. Although there are some things that don't feel good. For example this from iamperfection after D2 about you: "Asked some pointless questions to me wasting time and therefore posting without a point" Not sure if that means PMs or in thread. I can't seem to find this in thread now. Either way, not good. Then there was that huge spam about the role name thing D1. Pretty ridiculous and buried potentially useful posts. Also quite a lot of spam during D2 like "What's up, X?" or "What did you mean with this?". But as I said, I take back that you focused THAT much on useless stuff. More like there's a decent amount of useless, but more relevant posts than I thought. Did you even read Rayn's last town game? I thought he was mafia in obs qt, he's just like that. Him and his love for single malt, I suspect. He's lurky as fuck when he's scum, there's no fucking way he's scum in this game with his current activity. You're waaay more useless, you still didn't answer my question and prefer to post LOL and ROFL. Shouldn't you be some more interested into talking with your scumread? This is plain wrong btw. Indeed. Buddying up? Or what? rayn is never lurky. At least looking at NWM, Titanic and Catch 22, he was always spammy and active as scum or town. What I'm trying to distinguish is townish activity and scummy activity. He's going to be active regardless. On August 15 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 01:55 Xatalos wrote:On August 15 2013 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why the fuck does Xatalos dodge my questions about Mocsta and me/Acro stuff every time i ask him. What do you mean? What haven't I answered? Give me a full answer on Mocsta case, and give me an answer why did you call me out with your scumread Acro for bullshit reasoning "you have focused on all the wrong things all the game". I've explained why I went along with Acro in detail already. It had to do with my increasing townread on Acro, my bad gut feeling regarding you, your useless spam posts and me believing that one of you (rayn, Acro) was probably scum (I'm not as sure about that one anymore). Go read my filter please, it should be clear at this point. Onwards to the Mocsta case. - I agree that jrkirby was scummy - You twist some of what Mocsta said... He didn't say "Sharrant isn't playing his town meta and thus is town", he said several points and counter-points and concluded town... Dunno about the lynchbait thing - At least iamperfection has said that he has a townread on you in PMs, your terrible early game might refer to your spam about the rolename thing, "forced aggression" might also mean the useless spam, lastly hard to talk about a game I haven't played in (and meta shouldn't be overused) Overall I'd say Mocsta is slightly scummy (counting jrkirby's scumminess), and a pretty reasonable lynch, but he has been very active today and I'd like to give him a bit more time (like I said earlier). - Your posts before Acro's case imply that he is your scumread. Tell me when did you drop your suspicion on him. - Explain this: "He didn't say "Sharrant isn't playing his town meta and thus is town", he said several points and counter-points and concluded town... " because that's exactly what Mocsta said. If not, why did you not say this in the first place? - About the rolename thing (is this all you are going to bring up - i thought you had more things as you implied so). I talked about it with Solstice, i do not agree with him, and i think it's not alignment indicative. I am not calling johnny scum because of it, I AM SAYING HE IS NOT TOWN BECAUSE OF IT!!!! wtf? - You didn't explain the "forced aggression", where is it? Gimme quotes? You are calling me scum for things you don't even know what they mean. Do you see how retarded that is? I still suspected Acro somewhat when I was arguing with him, and I still do have some very slight suspicion. But iamperfection's strong belief in Acro being town and the townish feeling of the argument between us made me stop pursuing him as potential scum. If he's still alive at LYLO, there would be reason to revisit him. I think you misread his post. He had several points for Sharrant being town or for being scum. He said something like "Sharrant isn't playing his town meta, but he's been AFK so that might explain it. Overall leaning town". Just reread it with an objective mind. The rolename thing = the "forced aggression". At least I think so, you should go ask him. I can't know what he's thinking. I was just trying to say that he's not necessarily scum and he's not a good lynch for today. Maybe for later, but not at the moment. I'm not going to restart the argument about the rolenames, it already buried countless pages for no gain. And it wasn't the only thing I mentioned, I also mentioned that you had apparently wasted iamperfection's time with pointless questions and had tons of useless filler one-liner posts.
where have i wasted iamps time with pointless questions?
your other answers fall into the category:
You are calling me scum for things you don't even know what they mean. Do you see how retarded that is?
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On August 15 2013 04:54 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:What stood out to me first is his interactions with Yamato. On August 10 2013 06:04 strongandbig wrote:On August 10 2013 05:58 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:55 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 05:51 yamato77 wrote:
Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread. In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him. So how do you advise we treat the SnB situation, then, Acro? Let him lurk into LYLO? It's not like he's an incompetent town player. If he's town, he's good enough to show it. idiot i'm busier today than i was yesterday. that doesn't mean im lurking. i just coutned, i have sent 123 PMs this game. so fuck you saying i'm scum for inactivity. also you should know better than this. my activity is just as bad when i'm town as it is when i'm scum. if not worse. you are making up things to suit your agenda and i woudl be down to lynch or vig you. On August 10 2013 06:08 strongandbig wrote:On August 10 2013 06:07 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 06:04 strongandbig wrote:On August 10 2013 05:58 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:55 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 05:51 yamato77 wrote:
Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread. In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him. So how do you advise we treat the SnB situation, then, Acro? Let him lurk into LYLO? It's not like he's an incompetent town player. If he's town, he's good enough to show it. idiot i'm busier today than i was yesterday. that doesn't mean im lurking. i just coutned, i have sent 123 PMs this game. so fuck you saying i'm scum for inactivity. also you should know better than this. my activity is just as bad when i'm town as it is when i'm scum. if not worse. you are making up things to suit your agenda and i woudl be down to lynch or vig you. So "I do this as town, too!' is your only defense? Last time I heard that, a SCUM PLAYER was getting lynched D1 in Catch 22. no you fucker my defense is that i have been way, way more active than many people in this game, including you. He gives out these strong accusations of Yamato trying to make things up to suit his agenda, and see that Yamato has done nothing this game but fight with Oats over dumb stuff at the start of the game and not scum hun, Then he plants his vote on Onegu with weak reasoning. On August 10 2013 06:13 strongandbig wrote:
Right now I think I want to lynch onegu the most. I thought the pressure on him at the start was for a bad reason, but he didn't really do anything at all in the way of scumhunting when the pressure was taken off of him.
So ##vote: onegu At this point of the game he should have a better case for Yamato being scum, (not scumhunting, shitting up the thread, having an agenda) and chooses to ignore it and not pressure Yamato further. On August 13 2013 01:57 strongandbig wrote:On August 13 2013 01:41 Acrofales wrote:On August 13 2013 01:26 strongandbig wrote:
okay i'm back after reading the previous ~45 pages of thread.
i've been camping with my girlfriend for the weekend. the limited activity was because (1) bad cell reception and more importantly (2) lack of interest in mafia when camping with my girlfriend.
I see that people are calling me scum because my activity dropped off, all i'll say to them for now is that if you think occasional inactivity is something I only show in scum games then you're either scum or lazy as fuck.
I want to talk specifically to what vivax said about my pms during night 1. It's true that I was very malleable as regards where to send the KP. The plan from iamperfection and rayn was made while I was gone, and I hadn't read the thread at that point. I sent in the KP after reading gumshoe's filter and deciding that he was a good enough choice for a lurker shot, and I sent it as soon as I finished reading the thread because I was something like half an hour late for my assigned time slot, and didn't want to fuck up their plan for sending in the KP sequentially.
But anyway, it seems the reason most people have been calling me scum isn't for anything I did, but for stopping paying attention to the game over the weekend. So the best way to shut that down is to start caring/paying attention, no? Yet another paragon of useful contribution. After reading 45 pages you must have something to say about the CONTENT of those pages, no? The Redwyne fleet is ready to sail north and stab you in the face. typing bro i see no reason to talk abotu the yamato situation since he claimed scum and we're killing him. cool that sharrant chose a good target. i thought some about shooting yamato but since i didnt do it and didn't actually push him it doesn't matter. if you're trying to decide whether i'm scum, make sure you think a little bit about his push on me, also, and explain how we could be teammates before you shoot me. i mean obviously its possible that he was trying to bus me, but i would argue scum would be unlikely to bus their teammate who won a lordship and then was not going to be active enough to defend himself until after a full round of vig shots. i see no real reason to talk about the oberyn fakeclaim situation either. actually, here's something - i would say that the scum roleblocker may not have claimed because he knew oberyn and onegu were lying (either onegu or oberyn being scum in that case) but it's also possible that they were inactive. it seems unlikely that they would have called their bluff completely, given that jk is such a good fakeclaim for that scenario and that it was mentioned in the thread, but that can't be ruled out either. so i don't think we can be like "omg someone leaked the plan lynch into oberyn and onegu". That said, it does make them deserving of some extra scrutiny as compared to any random person in the game, i guess. so yeah there you go, a paragraph where i don't really say anything, happy? I thought this post was scummy, he comes in with this long post and says nothing besides, I didn't actually push Yamato but we were fighting with each other so we can't be scum together. Then adds in this last paragraph where he knows he's not adding anything and justifies it by adding in the last sentence. Aside from that yes, the activity hasn't been the best and he only pushes Risen for not having logical reads which doesn't seem to be alignment indicative for Risen. I didn't really think yamato was scum at that point, I just thought he was being an asshole and I was getting pissed. Also I was already out of town at that point. My reasoning for voting onegu was that he was the lynch candidate who I agreed with the cases against the most. I talked about those cases a bit but it's true that my reasoning was not explained in detail. I was out of town camping with my girlfriend and put in as much time as I felt like on my vote. And you seriously are calling me scum for the fact that my post explaining why I wasn't talking doesn't say anything??? That's the whole point of that post! I had just been accused by acro for not contributing, during the time while I was typing my Risen case. I decided to be a bit snarky and explain in detail why I decided not to talk about some of the things that acro apparently thought I should have talked about. AGAIN, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KILL ME SHOULD READ YAMATO'S FILTER AND EXPLAIN WHY HE WAS PUSHING ME, HIS TEAMMATE, FOR INACTIVITY AND "NOT CARING" WHILE SUPPOSEDLY KNOWING THAT I WOULD BE GONE FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND UNABLE TO RESPOND.Seriously, I can't believe you are making a yamato connection case to argue i'm scum.
To be fair, what SnB says here is true. Do not make stupid connection cases. Yamato's stance on SnB does not mean shit.
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On August 15 2013 04:54 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 04:45 Xatalos wrote:On August 15 2013 03:42 Vivax wrote:Look, Xatalos. My question regarding your (suddenly not any more?) scumread, of which you fail to understand why he would attack you like that (although he's your scumread you don't see scummy intentions?). Can you answer this or will you post some more insults, lols and rofls, great lord of house shitvotes? On August 15 2013 00:55 Vivax wrote:I don't see what you mean with contradictory statements from Risen. You posted that he was wrong about you and Dandel, afterwards you posted this: On August 09 2013 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that Risen is quite likely town (unfortunately, one might also say).
So I wonder now, why do you mention something that is supposed to make him scum when in the past it wasn't reason enough and you gave him a townread in spite of what you call a contradiction now. I think it's pretty null to make such a stupid mistake. How would scum benefit from doing that on purpose? It looked more like he was overjoyed about finding a scumslip and went with it, not like he tried to justify a scumread on me or anything like that. It was so sudden and weird. Could still be scum motivated, just seemed more like null or even townish to do that. I think you're just not reading the thread. My suspicions for Risen had already started before I noticed his inconsistent thought process. Then he posted that he had only suspected DI because of his connection to me. That's just 100% false. 1) It was the other way around, a big part of his case of his case on me was based on my connection to DI. 2) Even if it wasn't the other way around, it wasn't possibly ONLY because of DI's connection to me. There were many other reasons but nothing about a connection. It made me think his original case was all made up, since he couldn't even grasp the logic of his own case HIMSELF. What town would decide their reads, then justify them with bad logic, then not even understand the logic behind their reads? That's right, only scum would do that. (After witnessing Risen's total failure in thinking on several occasions, I've had to admit that maybe he's just incapable of logic altogether.) On August 15 2013 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 02:31 Xatalos wrote:On August 15 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 01:58 Vivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 15 2013 01:53 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have been bringing up these "fruitless details" for a long time. can you now explain what do you mean by them so i could... you know... answer you? Well, it seems like I've underestimated your focus on relevant stuff. Although there are some things that don't feel good. For example this from iamperfection after D2 about you: "Asked some pointless questions to me wasting time and therefore posting without a point" Not sure if that means PMs or in thread. I can't seem to find this in thread now. Either way, not good. Then there was that huge spam about the role name thing D1. Pretty ridiculous and buried potentially useful posts. Also quite a lot of spam during D2 like "What's up, X?" or "What did you mean with this?". But as I said, I take back that you focused THAT much on useless stuff. More like there's a decent amount of useless, but more relevant posts than I thought. Did you even read Rayn's last town game? I thought he was mafia in obs qt, he's just like that. Him and his love for single malt, I suspect. He's lurky as fuck when he's scum, there's no fucking way he's scum in this game with his current activity. You're waaay more useless, you still didn't answer my question and prefer to post LOL and ROFL. Shouldn't you be some more interested into talking with your scumread? This is plain wrong btw. Indeed. Buddying up? Or what? rayn is never lurky. At least looking at NWM, Titanic and Catch 22, he was always spammy and active as scum or town. What I'm trying to distinguish is townish activity and scummy activity. He's going to be active regardless. On August 15 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 15 2013 01:55 Xatalos wrote:On August 15 2013 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why the fuck does Xatalos dodge my questions about Mocsta and me/Acro stuff every time i ask him. What do you mean? What haven't I answered? Give me a full answer on Mocsta case, and give me an answer why did you call me out with your scumread Acro for bullshit reasoning "you have focused on all the wrong things all the game". I've explained why I went along with Acro in detail already. It had to do with my increasing townread on Acro, my bad gut feeling regarding you, your useless spam posts and me believing that one of you (rayn, Acro) was probably scum (I'm not as sure about that one anymore). Go read my filter please, it should be clear at this point. Onwards to the Mocsta case. - I agree that jrkirby was scummy - You twist some of what Mocsta said... He didn't say "Sharrant isn't playing his town meta and thus is town", he said several points and counter-points and concluded town... Dunno about the lynchbait thing - At least iamperfection has said that he has a townread on you in PMs, your terrible early game might refer to your spam about the rolename thing, "forced aggression" might also mean the useless spam, lastly hard to talk about a game I haven't played in (and meta shouldn't be overused) Overall I'd say Mocsta is slightly scummy (counting jrkirby's scumminess), and a pretty reasonable lynch, but he has been very active today and I'd like to give him a bit more time (like I said earlier). - Your posts before Acro's case imply that he is your scumread. Tell me when did you drop your suspicion on him. - Explain this: "He didn't say "Sharrant isn't playing his town meta and thus is town", he said several points and counter-points and concluded town... " because that's exactly what Mocsta said. If not, why did you not say this in the first place? - About the rolename thing (is this all you are going to bring up - i thought you had more things as you implied so). I talked about it with Solstice, i do not agree with him, and i think it's not alignment indicative. I am not calling johnny scum because of it, I AM SAYING HE IS NOT TOWN BECAUSE OF IT!!!! wtf? - You didn't explain the "forced aggression", where is it? Gimme quotes? You are calling me scum for things you don't even know what they mean. Do you see how retarded that is? I still suspected Acro somewhat when I was arguing with him, and I still do have some very slight suspicion. But iamperfection's strong belief in Acro being town and the townish feeling of the argument between us made me stop pursuing him as potential scum. If he's still alive at LYLO, there would be reason to revisit him. I think you misread his post. He had several points for Sharrant being town or for being scum. He said something like "Sharrant isn't playing his town meta, but he's been AFK so that might explain it. Overall leaning town". Just reread it with an objective mind. The rolename thing = the "forced aggression". At least I think so, you should go ask him. I can't know what he's thinking. I was just trying to say that he's not necessarily scum and he's not a good lynch for today. Maybe for later, but not at the moment. I'm not going to restart the argument about the rolenames, it already buried countless pages for no gain. And it wasn't the only thing I mentioned, I also mentioned that you had apparently wasted iamperfection's time with pointless questions and had tons of useless filler one-liner posts. where have i wasted iamps time with pointless questions? your other answers fall into the category: You are calling me scum for things you don't even know what they mean. Do you see how retarded that is? From iamperfection's last will: "Asked some pointless questions to me wasting time and therefore posting without a point would still guess he is town though." I'm not even calling you scum. Just that you're scum much more likely than in NWM and more likely than Acro.
So do you know what these pointless questions are? Because i sure do not. Why are you bringing them up if you don't?
To me it seems like you are trying to throw shit on someone who a now confirmed town was suspicious about. And to strengthen your D2 read, which was full of shit. Why did you say i "was focusing on wrong things"? You have never explained that.
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