EPTOn August 08 2013 19:41 Koshi wrote:
Basically it went down in our house like this.
S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice.
Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma.
As for scumreads:
DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum.
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Basically it went down in our house like this.
S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice.
Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma.
As for scumreads:
DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum.
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Based purely on experience, which is all you had to go on at this point, but s0lstice AND Dandel Ion are better scumhunters than Chromatically. Seeing as all three wanted to be lord, ONE of them was going to have to fold. Why did you not try to convince Chromatically to vote alongside with you for one of the "best scumhunters", rather than such a stand-offish approach where everybody called each other scum until you voted for the LEAST experienced scumhunter in your house (other than you yourself)?
Verdict: scum
I don't like your soft stance on Oats either. You keep "pressuring him", while in the same sentence letting him know that there is no pressure and you don't intend to pursue it because "the whole thread is laughing at you". Not sure if it's a scumtell or a badtell, but it pretty much disqualifies all your reads in the early game, which were built around your Oats read: Clarity scummy for soft-defending Oats, strongandbig scummy for not going after Oats. I dunno where I'm going with this, but it just feels like there is no real pressure and as long as Oats doesn't flip you can keep up these ridiculous association cases. Of course, the flipside of this is that Oats dying looks like scum KP, and why would scum Koshi undermine his own favourite tunnel?
Verdict: null
D2 Baratheon politics is still fucking weird:
On August 12 2013 03:53 Koshi wrote:
Now after s0lstice explaining to me what Oats his meta is I must say that Oats is playing like that on D2. However, above post gave me instant flashbacks to Cora in Titanic. Always seeing townreads and then suggesting a "sure" scumlynch. Rayn, Oats and Clarity know what I am talking about.
s0lstice is now confirmed town to me. In the night he tried to help me on how to play better, which is something that scum would never do in the way s0lstice did.
Sadly I do not have any new scumreads except that everybody who has been posting lately is probably town... I could point out to some inactives but that is just too easy.
Now after s0lstice explaining to me what Oats his meta is I must say that Oats is playing like that on D2. However, above post gave me instant flashbacks to Cora in Titanic. Always seeing townreads and then suggesting a "sure" scumlynch. Rayn, Oats and Clarity know what I am talking about.
s0lstice is now confirmed town to me. In the night he tried to help me on how to play better, which is something that scum would never do in the way s0lstice did.
Sadly I do not have any new scumreads except that everybody who has been posting lately is probably town... I could point out to some inactives but that is just too easy.
How do you vote for Chromatically if s0lstice is confirmed town? There's no strong town read on Chrom ANYWHERE in Koshi's filter, yet he was magically elected. Again. This is, of course, not only down to Koshi, because Chrom said:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Chromatically wrote:
Solstice and Dandel didn't run, and they were both fine with me.
Solstice and Dandel didn't run, and they were both fine with me.
But there is something funky in Baratheon politics, and funky voting is scummy voting. When I get done with Vivax I'll take a closer look at the rest of the Stags.
Verdict: fuck knows
The KP stuff that Sharrant is going on about:
On August 12 2013 22:51 Koshi wrote:
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY LOW AFTER ALL LORDS SHOT HIM?
Ok maybe not 1 hp. But it wasn't going to be 15 HP. wtfff? Like how do you even refuse to see that this doesn't make sense?
And of couse nobody in the thread is paying attention to me when I am actually finding scum............ Typical.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY LOW AFTER ALL LORDS SHOT HIM?
Ok maybe not 1 hp. But it wasn't going to be 15 HP. wtfff? Like how do you even refuse to see that this doesn't make sense?
And of couse nobody in the thread is paying attention to me when I am actually finding scum............ Typical.
Well, either scum intentionally spread out their KP, or they didn't know people's HP. So I don't see how Sharrant's case makes much sense for Koshi being scum based on this. I actually think they DID spread out their KP on purpose and offed gumshoe, because he was an easy pushover. I see no real reason for a town vigi to shoot someone who is already dying. But I don't think this speculation here is indicative of alignment at all.
SK is an interesting option: it would be easy to hide as a vigi and shoot gumshoe in the face and maybe one of the D2 kills was an SK shot. It fits the pattern of wanting to help town if the lynch is on a town, and scum if a scumbag is lynched. All the while keeping hidden as well as possible. Worth keeping in mind.
The fixation with it (both the shot, and bringing up 3p for no reason) also points that way:
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On August 12 2013 23:34 Koshi wrote:
@Sharrant
A vig with a 1 KP shot? Or 3 KP shot? Like how stupid is that? A vig shoots people death, not hit them for 1 HP... I could see 3hp/5hp vig if the vig can shoot multiple times but then it is still stupid to shoot gumshoe unless for some reason you think gumshoe has 10 hp. While that doesn't make any sense at all because lords can only do 6 hp damage combined.
Also that's not even the point. The point is that iamp says that it is MOST LIKELY a vig. While it is most likely it is scum in his house knowing gumshoe has 1 hp.
but w.e. I drop it because everybody thinks iamp is town.
@Sharrant
A vig with a 1 KP shot? Or 3 KP shot? Like how stupid is that? A vig shoots people death, not hit them for 1 HP... I could see 3hp/5hp vig if the vig can shoot multiple times but then it is still stupid to shoot gumshoe unless for some reason you think gumshoe has 10 hp. While that doesn't make any sense at all because lords can only do 6 hp damage combined.
Also that's not even the point. The point is that iamp says that it is MOST LIKELY a vig. While it is most likely it is scum in his house knowing gumshoe has 1 hp.
but w.e. I drop it because everybody thinks iamp is town.
On August 14 2013 18:05 Koshi wrote:
Tried to question my House about Chrom. I have a strong townread on s0lstice (3p is also possible) and I didn't like Chrom tunnel on s0lstice but my entire House thinks Chrom is town, all Lords think Chrom is town and Chrom his PMs are indeed ok to think he is town. But we don't PM that much, which is House Baratheon style. I could actually see Chrom being 3p now. It fits perfect, because you can fool people easier because you don't know who is scum.
Request:
Who posted that yamato could be Mr.X. ? I can't find that post anymore.
Tried to question my House about Chrom. I have a strong townread on s0lstice (3p is also possible) and I didn't like Chrom tunnel on s0lstice but my entire House thinks Chrom is town, all Lords think Chrom is town and Chrom his PMs are indeed ok to think he is town. But we don't PM that much, which is House Baratheon style. I could actually see Chrom being 3p now. It fits perfect, because you can fool people easier because you don't know who is scum.
Request:
Who posted that yamato could be Mr.X. ? I can't find that post anymore.
On August 14 2013 18:24 Koshi wrote:
Also Mocsta, could you analyze jrkirby his filter? I find it suspicious you don't say anything about that. Now with the current flips jrkirby looks scummy as fuck. You putting iamp on top of your scumlist right before he dies is feeling so wrong as well. It just feels completely wrong. btw I made a case on iamp before, which you seemed to have missed? But all other people said iamp was town, and then right before (or should I say after?) he dies you put him on top of the your scumlist.
Do you know how Ver "proved" I was SK in Sicilian? Because I asked stupid questions at the start. Look at these:
I also added in between the scumlist jrkirby made. yamato hanging on the bottom is lol.
Also Mocsta, could you analyze jrkirby his filter? I find it suspicious you don't say anything about that. Now with the current flips jrkirby looks scummy as fuck. You putting iamp on top of your scumlist right before he dies is feeling so wrong as well. It just feels completely wrong. btw I made a case on iamp before, which you seemed to have missed? But all other people said iamp was town, and then right before (or should I say after?) he dies you put him on top of the your scumlist.
Do you know how Ver "proved" I was SK in Sicilian? Because I asked stupid questions at the start. Look at these:
I also added in between the scumlist jrkirby made. yamato hanging on the bottom is lol.
Verdict: 3P
Today's push on Mocsta. I actually kinda like it. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I believe HE believes his push. Of course, if he's actually 3P, that makes perfect sense. 3P has no knowledge about who is town and who is scum, but neither does town. Benefit of the doubt.
Verdict: townish
Without actual evidence of a 3P existing (need more NKs to make sense), I don't think Koshi is a good lynch at all. He doesn't feel like scum at all, except maybe for the politics on D1. So lets call him town, unless we have more evidence for an SK or other 3P player.
Random setup speculation: an SK Littlefinger would be fucking awesome. I so hope that's true.
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