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On August 07 2013 09:15 hzflank wrote:Yeah no wonder Cora was so useless D4. I gave him a free pass because of the green check. Also Koshi, why tunnel me D1 without any reason?  That seriously made things harder for me. You never even made a good case. And you gits should of read my D4 case on Oats. It was solid and he squirmed when I questioned him about it :/
All I know is that before xrz unclaim we were both ready to pounce on rayn.
Brofist
rayn, seriously man, you post too much
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On August 07 2013 09:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Must have been really funny being scum this game. Town killed itself.
That's funny coming from you.
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On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped.
Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3
Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out.
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On August 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 09:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 07 2013 09:24 hzflank wrote:
It's hard to find scum on D1, I did the best I could and pushed it. I always said I was flexible, but I just did not see a better candidate. Loads of people thought I was scum which worried me a lot. But the fact is that I was scum-hunting from the get go and never stopped. Even without the vet claim you started looking town d3 Even if a dayvig doesnt kill you it would still be a silly plan. When you're town, just trust that when you scumhunt you'll start looking town. People will figure it out. No, hz´s claim was really good and 100% town and people were idiots to not see it. He thinks he is scummy. It´s a fucking majority lynch. He knows he will not get shot in any near future. He does not want to derail the thread by people discussing if he is mafia (because he is not) so he eliminates a suspect for the town by claiming.
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If there was a vigi and the vigi could shoot him without killing him and DID, that would be terrible for town.
Yeah, we confirm two people but then they both die the following nights.
If hz had done exactly what he did without the claim he would have drawn a shot at some point.
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So why are you saying it was such a good claim.
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On August 07 2013 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 09:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
So why are you saying it was such a good claim. Because it proved he was town and eliminated a suspect for ~7 people. The vigi thing he said was a mistake but no sane vig should have shot him immediately, or ever, because he was obviously town and vigis should not shoot town.
It only looked town because he added the bad plan.
Like, if he just went "yo guys im vet, claiming so you don't lynch me" it would have not looked townie.
The looking townie part was by accident. It wasn't a good claim.
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I didn't get endgamed. and hz didn't cohost.
Oats didn't send in a save night 1, the dunce.
On August 07 2013 09:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 09:36 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 07 2013 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2013 09:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
So why are you saying it was such a good claim. Because it proved he was town and eliminated a suspect for ~7 people. The vigi thing he said was a mistake but no sane vig should have shot him immediately, or ever, because he was obviously town and vigis should not shoot town. It only looked town because he added the bad plan. Like, if he just went "yo guys im vet, claiming so you don't lynch me" it would have not looked townie. The looking townie part was by accident. It wasn't a good claim. It was the timing and the reasons he claimed for that were incredibly genuine, not any plans it included.
What are you not understanding here? Yes, it made him clearly town. No, it wasn't a good claim
It wasn't the most terrible claim in the world, and it worked out, but it wasn't a good claim
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Reading the scum qt, how did I not die n1?
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Stutters
07-31-2013
07:23 PM ET (US)
What in the flying fuck is going on. I go back into the store thinking Tofu is dead and come back to fucking a second cop claim today and Tofu is safe?
Hahahahahahahaha
I dunno Stutters, no clue.
Vayne was derping about majority so wouldn't kill tofu.
xrz just did stuff
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Oh and I got flared and lived.
RNG!
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On August 07 2013 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Clarity, that´s why you make no last minute wagons for no reason.
We HAD lynched FT, and avoided all the shitstorm that went on after that.
if xrz wouldnt have done what he did it wouldve been nolynch cause of vayne.
If he somehow said "okay I'll vote tofu" we would have lynched scum
If we somehow got enough people on Cora we would have lynched scum.
You know what a shitstorm is? Your goddamn filter. If you weren't confirmed due to being cop you would have been unreadable because of that monstrosity.
You're also the one that talked me out of a malongo lynch day 1
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On August 07 2013 10:03 exarezee wrote:
@hz i was close to certain malongo was scum. realky worried about no lynch. it was certainly a judgement call. not going to say i wont do it again, but will think about it more given the responses.
no lynch is better since if you're wrong we instantly lose. Malongo lynch then xrz lynch, gg.
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On August 07 2013 10:04 jrkirby wrote:
If someone claims they found a "townslip" in a game with me, I will automatically assume they are scum. I kinda understand scumslip, even though I know you shouldn't put too much faith in it. Scum has information that town doesn't have, and they might accidentally betray that information. Depending on the slip, this could be good, or worthless evidence towards being scum.
But TOWNSLIP? What extra info does town even have that they could slip? The fact that they're town? Everyone uses this assumption behind all their posts, even the scum! WTF? Town can't just accidentally tell the thread they're town, because that's what they're TRYING to say all along! It's not like town are hiding the fact that they're town.
I could imagine copslip, perhaps. Maybe even docslip. But townslip is the stupidest thing I've heard in this thread.
it didn't hold as much weight with me as it did with oats, but to some degree I disagree
townslip is probably not the correct terminology since, as you say, town have no extra info to "slip"
however, certain things are very hard to fake as scum, and I felt FT was incredibly clever with how he handled that
Then he just went back to being scum and I put less emphasis on his so called townslip, but it was enough for me to not lynch him day 1.
I dunno why Oats just kept yelling townslip like it was the end all be all though, and it made me think he was scum, together with his non-presence (this wasn't just me, right?)
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On August 07 2013 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 10:04 jrkirby wrote:
If someone claims they found a "townslip" in a game with me, I will automatically assume they are scum. I kinda understand scumslip, even though I know you shouldn't put too much faith in it. Scum has information that town doesn't have, and they might accidentally betray that information. Depending on the slip, this could be good, or worthless evidence towards being scum.
But TOWNSLIP? What extra info does town even have that they could slip? The fact that they're town? Everyone uses this assumption behind all their posts, even the scum! WTF? Town can't just accidentally tell the thread they're town, because that's what they're TRYING to say all along! It's not like town are hiding the fact that they're town.
I could imagine copslip, perhaps. Maybe even docslip. But townslip is the stupidest thing I've heard in this thread. Yet it´s the only thing besides vayne´s stubborness that didn´t let me lynch FT on D1 and D2. Maybe someone bright enough can see how frustrated i was and why did i post so fucking much. Obvious things are obvious and if people do not get them i yell it over and over again. Sorry but that´s what i do.
Who the fuck was disagreeing with the xrz lynch? no one
You just kept yelling the same goddamn thing over and over and over
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On August 07 2013 10:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
why didnt Scum kill Rayn?
according to the scum qt they figured that (assuming vayne was cop) they could mislynch him d4.
Oats how can you forget that you are doc. Why didn't you read the thread at all this game.
Why did it feel like you had no presence at all
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On August 07 2013 10:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 10:09 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 07 2013 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2013 10:04 jrkirby wrote:
If someone claims they found a "townslip" in a game with me, I will automatically assume they are scum. I kinda understand scumslip, even though I know you shouldn't put too much faith in it. Scum has information that town doesn't have, and they might accidentally betray that information. Depending on the slip, this could be good, or worthless evidence towards being scum.
But TOWNSLIP? What extra info does town even have that they could slip? The fact that they're town? Everyone uses this assumption behind all their posts, even the scum! WTF? Town can't just accidentally tell the thread they're town, because that's what they're TRYING to say all along! It's not like town are hiding the fact that they're town.
I could imagine copslip, perhaps. Maybe even docslip. But townslip is the stupidest thing I've heard in this thread. Yet it´s the only thing besides vayne´s stubborness that didn´t let me lynch FT on D1 and D2. Maybe someone bright enough can see how frustrated i was and why did i post so fucking much. Obvious things are obvious and if people do not get them i yell it over and over again. Sorry but that´s what i do. Who the fuck was disagreeing with the xrz lynch? no one You just kept yelling the same goddamn thing over and over and over Corazon´s fault. Which is understandable as he was mafia.
It's corazon's fault that you posted the same case 50 different ways?
I think you also spent like 20 posts gauging who had a townread on you, when the answer was EVERYONE.
You can't honestly say you posted so much because "town was bad" or "I was upset"
It really was frustrating and you brought town to a screeching halt. It made me not want to play anymore.
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On August 07 2013 10:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 10:10 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 07 2013 10:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
why didnt Scum kill Rayn? according to the scum qt they figured that (assuming vayne was cop) they could mislynch him d4. Oats how can you forget that you are doc. Why didn't you read the thread at all this game. Why did it feel like you had no presence at all It felt like I had no presence cause there was not much posting when I was awake and a ton of posting when I was sleeping. Oh well.. I forgot I was doc cause I forgot.
That's... a fair point. I suppose when I saw you around when I was around maybe you were catching up?
Anyway I didn't mean to give you shit I was genuinely curious because I've seen you do well as town, but I don't feel you did this game
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If anyone has any advice btw I would appreciate it. I feel day 1 is always my strongest and I struggle later on.
I think I let the thread influence my thoughts too much, rather than have my thoughts seperate.
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On August 07 2013 10:20 hzflank wrote:
Your play was good, Clarity.
Bleh, I disagree, but thanks!
I felt I kinda lost my voice n3 and beyond.
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On August 07 2013 10:26 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2013 10:24 Oatsmaster wrote:I think one of the main problems was that none of us really took a step back and reevaluated after like day 3/4 and flips and such. So therefore I thought FT was town when I really shouldnt have, other dudes thought koshi was scum when he wasnt and NOBODY LYNCHED STUTTERS!! ( I actually made a very pro-town post that no one read asking everyone to look into Clarity's filter. Town thought I was scum at that point so everyone ignored it. Their loss.
You know I got a really bad feeling about you calling me town so often, and then going back into lurk mode.
I dunno why you weren't considered for a lynch this last day.
That dodge d2 though, LOL.
Well played!
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