On August 01 2013 05:49 Umasi wrote: Infii, why did you pop in to comment and basically say nothing, and then tell us you don't plan on saying anything? And you're defensive! What are you trying to accomplish by that? Address things other than yourself and generic town lists, because that just looks like you attempting to appear to contribute.
In which way did I say nothing? My post was targeted mainly at sc_a.M. The no-analysis thing was meant as a side note to clarify my thoughts on it...
On August 01 2013 05:56 infii wrote: That sounds so much pro scum that it almost can't be true. Please clarify your post if you are town.
Really? I mean, really? If you are targeting something it would be nice if you would explain to us why you think that particular behaviour is scummy.
No lynch seems like a bad option to me but in the last game I played there was a guy who wanted no lynch and he was town. This is an opinion and of course you can argue with it but you need to tell why you don't agree.
If you say something is scummy tell us why and i mean WHY not some meaningless one-liner.
Frankly, Gotard, I think he may be scum. If he is it implicates squishy a little but will be mostly WIFOM. I squishy is red I practically insist you are right and Indio is scum.
On August 01 2013 07:54 DeusXmachina wrote: My thoughts on infii:
He seems to be pretty passive, both in the content of his posts and the amount of posts. He did state that he can't post as much as he likes but that might be a ruse. Infii does not seem to care that much about day 1. He might feel like you can't accomplish much.
I'm sorry but you won't get an indepth analysis from me on day 1 (maybe even day2). There is just not enough information on everyone, that would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. (is this even a common phrase in english?)
This seems like a shady reason for not helping. You can at least do your best to give us analysis. Even if your wrong it still helps us out in some way. You should not be afraid of being wrong.
It is hard for me to give a definitive answer right now, but I think we should all keep an eye on him. Hopefully the pressure will reveal something.
Furthermore, I want to point out that the process leading up to a lynch offers a lot more valuable information than the lynch itself. It is in our best interest to lynch someone day 1. My understanding is that no-lynches are more valuable when the game is almost over.
Yes.
You are certain on reps still?
Also. What of those who don't post much at all? At least a thought people. When lurkers are left to lie scum are strongly tempted to join them- it is easy and comfortable as lurking scum. Unless we lynch lurkers
On August 01 2013 08:06 DeusXmachina wrote: We should look for persistent patterns of lurking over multiple days. If we still have heavy lurkers during the latter half of day 2 then we can put a lot of pressure on those individuals. What do guys think about analyzing infrequent posters patterns of posting (say that 5 times fast). Is someone who posts at semi regular intervals but posts infrequently more likely to be scum than someone who posts infrequently but in spurts? I would like to know if this could be a basis for analysis.
Nah. Tang looked totes town when I was scum. I offered to be bussed, they pulled it off beautifully but none of us had the same posting style. We were all scum though
So in short: not really. That is not how you gauge scumminess, but it could be a factor of a case where you already have other reasons.
On August 01 2013 08:09 DeusXmachina wrote: Also a message to anyone hesitant about voting reps: I get that newbie players are going to make mistakes, hell just look at my first pointless posts in this game (first every mafia posts), but don't you think it is kind of odd that he as already stated multiple times that he has been reading guides? It is definitely odd that after so much ridicule (sorry reps) that he still seems hesitant to contribute. Food for thought.
I am very
VERY
odd.
Odd =\= scum and there is my reservation. He isn't quite so scummy but he is on a knife. Stray either way and totes scum 2me.
Humph. Well if reps flips red I will be cool. If he flips green, know this: I have stated earlier that my own train of thought looked just like reps if not worse first game. It was because I 100% wanted to survive, rather than hunt scum- because I was tracker, and felt that tracking night actions would make me better prepared to successfully scumhunt.
See this; it hasn't happened yet, but I already feel that if reps flips green holy flare and deus x machina look scummier. Why?
Simple. Reps has given inclination toward being an ideal scum mislynch target.
That being said he hasn't helped things one bit. But I still fosftp for future reference, and yet here is my vote as I agree, we need to lynch.
I am fully aware that I will look scummy right with them if he flips town, because I'll look all knowing and distancing myself from mislynch. I am aware of this fact and still post it. So shouldn't affect your votes!
On August 01 2013 10:44 Umasi wrote: But slam what if you're saying this preemptively to reduce the chances that people will actually use it as evidence against you! wham bam slam you're scum brooooo
(this is a joke for all who are curious btw)
Exuncly
But if anyone wants me to elaborate, I will IF ASKED. If you are content let it lie, could be dangerous
On August 01 2013 12:14 Nightcat99 wrote: I guess every one is going to sleep, so i will leave this for every one to think about. Since rep's death is pretty secure.
Stim has not elaborate.
Infill needs to defend himself.
I am not happy with Gotard's reason to vote infill.
On August 01 2013 13:00 reps)squishy wrote: I am not lying but when you guys lynch me it's going to be green and be Vanilla Town. I got accused because Deus thinks me being a newbie is a scum cover up. Shit snowballed and I am going to be hanging from a rope in a few hours. It's your last chance to change your votes. Alakaslam lynching me is not following the Kenpachi rule that he so abides by I am VT. I really have super huge suspicions with Usami, Alakaslam and, Deus. First off Deus throws the index finger at me and votes me. Then Usami and Alakaslam vote against Deus then unvote at near the same time and then vote for me near the same time. Why are they Alakaslam and Deus playing so much alike really ringing a bell here. You can say that I have not contributed and that is the reason you are going to lynch me. If you are going to lynch someone that has not post. It really feels like all against 1 right now.
B cause when we (more than Umasi and I, holy flare did this too, and stim for a sec I think?)
1.defended u & said how to prove innocent to town
You didn't follow up apparently as instead of trying to give those reads that were asked for you began to martyr,
2. Got frustrated with this
You disappeared
3. Started to express inclinations that you were so detrimental that even as town you should not be lynched
Continued martyr.
It isn't over till it's over. Currently no one is set to be lynched!
So...
Give town the info it has asked for.
Otherwise there is scum motive for hanging back: better to be lynched than to give info to town.
On August 01 2013 13:00 reps)squishy wrote: I am not lying but when you guys lynch me it's going to be green and be Vanilla Town. I got accused because Deus thinks me being a newbie is a scum cover up. Shit snowballed and I am going to be hanging from a rope in a few hours. It's your last chance to change your votes. Alakaslam lynching me is not following the Kenpachi rule that he so abides by I am VT. I really have super huge suspicions with Usami, Alakaslam and, Deus. First off Deus throws the index finger at me and votes me. Then Usami and Alakaslam vote against Deus then unvote at near the same time and then vote for me near the same time. Why are they Alakaslam and Deus playing so much alike really ringing a bell here. You can say that I have not contributed and that is the reason you are going to lynch me. If you are going to lynch someone that has not post. It really feels like all against 1 right now.
B cause when we (more than Umasi and I, holy flare did this too, and stim for a sec I think?)
1.defended u & said how to prove innocent to town
You didn't follow up apparently as instead of trying to give those reads that were asked for you began to martyr,
2. Got frustrated with this
You disappeared
3. Started to express inclinations that you were so detrimental that even as town you should not be lynched
Continued martyr.
It isn't over till it's over. Currently no one is set to be lynched!
So...
Give town the info it has asked for.
Otherwise there is scum motive for hanging back: better to be lynched than to give info to town.
See I Haz plays as skum nau
I continued to read looked like people want to see how I defended my self. Once I did they started complaining that I defended my self.
Ignore them, keep defending. Just say all, people are stunned by the sheer WIFOM you say- this comes of being too vague. I am going to assume you are me from NMM XLIII. Look, martyring seems powerful when you do it, but really, that is for cops. As this is day 1, even if you are cop, it just looks bad cause you got no special info yet. So don't martyr. Assume you won't be lynched yet, but might be if you can't convince anyone that you are against scum. Ask ppl what they wanna hear, and give them the answers they want- no worries being wrong. Remember, I may look like a bamcis one, but no. Just no. Look at nuclear winter mafia, when this game Is over, and revel in the Rofl reading my filter.
So read your own filter, as if it was a different person, and see what you think.
EPT
. infii
