• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:01
CEST 00:01
KST 07:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.161Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202623Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion BSL23 Confirmations Starts on New BSL Portal ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9279 users

A Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - Page 9

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next All
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:21 GMT
#2176
On July 28 2013 13:14 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 13:11 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 13:05 TanGeng wrote:
@Onegu

From the conversation flow, I'm just not getting a DT with DT check on TAA feel from Tofu. Either cDg or TAA should have been high priorities for discussion. He still tunnels jrkirky and I and then floats getmoript being VT. Actually doesn't talk all that much about cDg at all.

@Tofu

What were you trying to do when tunneling kirby and I?

Pursuing my scumreads? What else would you think I was doing? I had a town read on TAA so there was nothing to pursue in that department. I wasn't tunnelling you and Kirby either. I thought you two were the best lynch targets from the process of elimination.


Ebwop: town check*


So, nothing to pursue except perhaps help determine your sanity? I don't understand how a DT with town check and uncertain sanity can be so disinterested in TAA.

Just a bit earlier you wanted Cora to flip just so that you and 5T could figure out your sanities.
On July 28 2013 06:34 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I wish this all would have happened yesterday so there'd be more time to reread stuff to see if I really believe these claims. I'm leaning towards legit because it'd be so outlandish for scum to do something like this,

If u 2 guys are telling truths. then there's a fullproof way to see if cora is legit. Submit your own name tonight. According to cora u wont get town or scum, it'll say investigator or whatever it was he said.

Instead of all of us wasting our checks... why don't we lynch Cora and see what our cop sanity is based on his flip? that way we'll know whether the two cops can find scum the following night.

It's a win-win.

Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:23 GMT
#2181
Tofu,

I'm pushing you because I'm pointing out your claim is BS.
It doesn't add up. And you're pulling this act because you can't counter my arguments.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:30 GMT
#2188
On July 28 2013 13:26 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 13:24 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, either firmtofu or cora is scum, and firm was defending TAA. I think its pretty obvious who's scum.

Are you serious right now? I was pushing my TOWN CHECK.


But you had no clue what your sanity was.
"Your PM" explicitly warns you of that.

But actually you didn't push anything. You avoided looking at TAA until getmoript practically forced you into doing it, and you handed him a silly counter that doesn't show any attempt to figure out TAA.

On July 24 2013 08:48 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 08:44 getmoript wrote:
He fucking claimed scum. He's been totally inactive. The 'shots' he's taken have been completely opportunistic. Have you even read his filter?

Yes, I have read his filter. Inactivity is not necessarily alignment indicative. Can you make a sophisticated case against him please?

I would like these posts specifically to be addressed.
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
rayns post mortem.
Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum.
Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum.
Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was.
Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him
super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then.
Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 22:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
onegu i didnt respond to your case because its a very weak one. The first post you quoted i called firmtofu out for pretending to be very productive(or willing to be very productive) while not doing anything. That isnt a scum tell? in my book it is.

The latter post i tried to show what a facade getmoript was pulling, going full bad cop-good cop on us this game. His fake emotions and empty posts seemed scummy to me, really reminiscent of how iGrok played in a newbie mafia game. Player with a ton of experience making fluffy posts and talking a ton. He has kinda stopped making the flufposts so it mightve been just part of his day1 play. Still thinking about this one though.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:20 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Also i disagree with the whole "TG claimed RB so hes not scum" train. I think if you thought he was scum D1 you should still think thats the case, since claiming RB obviously implies youre some kind of blue role (yes even despite VT roleclaims on D1) which is exactly what a desperate scum will do to make it another day.
I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much.

Thanks, getmoript.

Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:37 GMT
#2195
it's
Tofu - 3 (TG, Cora, kirby)
kirby - 3 (5T, JJD, Onegu)
Cora - 2 (vivax + tofu)

I think.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:37 GMT
#2196
you do that FirmTofu. Post all your reads, now.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:48 GMT
#2206
@jrkirby

Yeah 5T claimed cop and he breadcrumbed it, too.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19299331

See his "Are you sane?" question.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:51 GMT
#2211
@jrkirby

You have to understand that Corazon's snap call is very consistent with his impulsive play, and Corazon's story is much more of a "so weird you can't make it up"

Tofu is fakeclaiming.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:51 GMT
#2214
Look at how desperate he is right now. I've been sparring with him over his story for about an hour, and I'm not getting airtight answers at all.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:52 GMT
#2216
On July 28 2013 13:51 FirmTofu wrote:
How about this? If I'm wrong about Cora, you can always lynch me the following day. That would save us from lylo and give us enough of a shot to catch the last scum based on the flip.

But seriously, cDg is scum.


Why not the other way around. Lynch you today and Cora tomorrow.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:54 GMT
#2218
@ jrkirby

I've been pressing Tofu for pages now:

See:
On July 28 2013 12:18 TanGeng wrote:
Let's go at the Tofu Roleclaim from a different angle:

This is the FirmTofu Claim:
See Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long?
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 04:04 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, I gave myself a 12:00 deadline to post this. I've only delayed it this long because I wanted to see where the votes go before my reveal. I was also hoping for the off chance that people would lynch Cora without me having to reveal.

I am the Detective! I have the exact same role pm as getmoript.
Night 1, I checked TAA. Result: Town
Night 2, I checked Cora. Result: Town

This should answer a few questions for you.
Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long?
Because I got a town check on him.

If you have any additional questions, please ask.

I'm either a naive cop or a defective cop that gets everything wrong.
I'm leaning toward defective. I want to lynch Cora. 3 cops in this town? Highly unlikely.


Now look look at FirmTofu's role PM.
Show nested quote +
Welcome, getmoript to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results!


FirmTofu basically sees that he has a possibility of being insane. The Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long? still makes no sense. He'd have to question his own sanity first and since he got a DT check, he'd be really interested in figuring out TAA alignment first.

That is not what happened. FirmTofu basically explored everybody else before finally getting to TAA.
I'm having a real problem with this claim even on its own now.




On July 28 2013 12:27 TanGeng wrote:
Ok dead fakeclaim by FirmTofu. Here's Tofu's first post when entering TAA fray.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?

Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles?
How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?


I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.

Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.

My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.

TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.

I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.

Unless he was misrepresenting himself, he should know the answer to the bolded question, already.

Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 04:56 GMT
#2220
On July 28 2013 13:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 13:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Vivax!!! Come back!

Well if Kirby doesn't switch his vote, then the only viable lynch is me. I'm going to post allmy reads. Town can decide whether its worth killing me for information.
I don't see how lynching you is better than no lynch. I've already explained why pretty certain ur town now.

I'll still be around for a while.


JJD,

You're not seeing play inconsistent with DT with unknown sanity getting a town check on TAA?
See previous post.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:00 GMT
#2223
On July 28 2013 13:58 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 13:56 TanGeng wrote:
On July 28 2013 13:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 28 2013 13:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Vivax!!! Come back!

Well if Kirby doesn't switch his vote, then the only viable lynch is me. I'm going to post allmy reads. Town can decide whether its worth killing me for information.
I don't see how lynching you is better than no lynch. I've already explained why pretty certain ur town now.

I'll still be around for a while.


JJD,

You're not seeing play inconsistent with DT with unknown sanity getting a town check on TAA?
See previous post.


Well, getmoript was a DT with unknown sanity, and he pushed TAA to lynch.


getmoript also had a strong read against TAA on Day 1. It's more of the avoiding even looking at TAA. Tofu tackles like 5 other issues before even looking at TAA.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:03 GMT
#2225
yeah
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:03 GMT
#2226
8 players
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:07 GMT
#2231
look jrkirby, I've been really certain of this scum read on Tofu and I have a huge other cases that Tofu hasn't even dare touched.

Tofu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=94#1880
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=95#1885

His scum partner Vivax/austinmcc
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=98#1960
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&currentpage=99#1962
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:11 GMT
#2236
On July 28 2013 14:10 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:05 jrkirby wrote:
FT, what changed your read on me to town?

I got a town check on cDg. I know I probably get town checks on scum, so this implicates cDg. cDg voted you.

So basically, my biggest scumread was bussing you. That didn't make any sense because scum couldn't afford to lose a member at this stage of the game. That would basically be gg. Bussing was not an option. Therefore, you had to be town.

Also, TG makes a lot more sense as scum considering Day 1 and how heavily he's pushing me today.

I'm pushing you because I have a completed scum case against you.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:14 GMT
#2239
Tofu,

Why did you check TAA first night?
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:24 GMT
#2248
Ok I'll agree to that.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:25 GMT
#2250
On July 28 2013 14:24 FirmTofu wrote:
That being said, I am perfectly OK with being lynched. I just want town to promise that they will lynch you AND TG when I flip town.

If town agrees to that, I'll vote myself.


Let's go. I'm 100% sure at this point. You posed it. I'll take it.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 28 2013 05:27 GMT
#2252
If you flip town, I'll shut up for 2 day cycles and let you run the lynch wagon over Corazon and I.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech165
ViBE124
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 158
Dewaltoss 85
Artosis 28
Super Smash Bros
PPMD36
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4423
Other Games
FrodaN641
shahzam474
ToD245
PiGStarcraft241
Liquid`Hasu233
C9.Mang0140
Livibee8
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 35
• blackmanpl 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3463
• masondota21686
Other Games
• imaqtpie1200
• Shiphtur684
• WagamamaTV244
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 29m
Kung Fu Cup
12h 59m
The PondCast
1d 11h
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.