EPTA Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - Page 8
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Don't go DocH on us, like your.... predecessor. | ||
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On July 28 2013 09:35 JarJarDrinks wrote: @TG. I was w/ you on Tofu before. But how are you not reevaluating ur read on him after this DT claim? Explain to me how he possibly could have made this claim as scum? He specifically said that he got the exact same role PM as getmo. Then 5T immediately backed him up. How could he have known that? The only way it makes any sense is if 5T and tofu are mafia. And a double fake claim just seems way too ridiculous to consider. Actually, FiveTouch claim really threw me for a loop. But if we consider the scum Tofu and town 5T, scum made the play without knowing 5T was DT and is trying to kill Corazon. The small exchange between me and Tofu seems like Tofu is now off script (not according to plan) if he is indeed scum. I'm still ok with my read. Atually very comfortable because I'm seeing Tofu pull idea after idea without responding to our objections. Sometimes they are really stupid ideas, too. The whole flow is very much within the "pushing scum agenda" behavior. | ||
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Oh I missed addressing the 5T part. 5T sees a 4th DT claim and he both confirms possibility of all four being town. This in a way helps confirm FirmTofu but also derails the FirmTofu agenda. Then watch FirmTofu attempt to get back on track. If I am missing anything please feel free to ask. | ||
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On July 28 2013 06:06 FiveTouch wrote: TG is player of the team if that's the case, but it's absolutely within the realm of possible to ME. Marv may disagree, but my townread on TG is heavily tied into his more recent play.... Though now that I'm sitting here thinking about it, most of what I dismissed as townie on D1 was based on the assumption that he just doesn't know what he's doing. He's displaying a completely different kind of mindset and capability recently. :/ Day 1 is more Meta heavy. I'm actually really really hating TL Day 1 Meta. Right now I'm running on scumhunting fundamentals. | ||
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I want your vote on Tofu, too. Talk to me. | ||
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On July 26 2013 15:01 phagga wrote: getmoript the Detective has been killed! + Show Spoiler + Welcome, getmoript to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results! That's Phagga Night 2 post. This is FirmTofu Claim: On July 28 2013 04:04 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I gave myself a 12:00 deadline to post this. I've only delayed it this long because I wanted to see where the votes go before my reveal. I was also hoping for the off chance that people would lynch Cora without me having to reveal. I am the Detective! I have the exact same role pm as getmoript. Night 1, I checked TAA. Result: Town Night 2, I checked Cora. Result: Town This should answer a few questions for you. Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long? Because I got a town check on him. If you have any additional questions, please ask. I'm either a naive cop or a defective cop that gets everything wrong. I'm leaning toward defective. I want to lynch Cora. 3 cops in this town? Highly unlikely. He's saying that's the a defective/insane cop, because he wants to use to his advantage. Welcome, getmoript to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results! As for 5T knowing the wording of the PM, everyone saw this. And 5T and Tofu don't look like a double fake claim play because currently it looks like Tofu trying to make a fake claim pushing an agenda and 5T shutting him down dead in his tracks. | ||
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It seems like you're assuming that Cora didn't get this PM or isn't claiming this PM wording is what he got? Peel everything back for me. Cora claimed early D2 and much much before the N2 end, so he couldn't have said that when he claimed. He didn't have phagga post to use as an example. Of course, Cora could have since then. He didn't. I don't feel like you can assume that Corazon didn't receive the same wording though. | ||
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On July 28 2013 04:22 FirmTofu wrote: Oh damn. Okay hold on, I'm going to have to think about this for a bit. No way Tofu knew that 5T was also a DT. Unless this is an even bigger play. | ||
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The attempted play was Claim DT and Lynch Cora. It was NOT Claim DT and Get Believed by 5T. | ||
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Also 5T breadcrumbed being DT without stated sanity. Look at the 5T - Corazon interplay. On July 24 2013 06:22 cDgCorazon wrote: I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane. 5T is asking "Are you sane" as if he knew that sanity could be a problem. And Corazon tried to check himself to address that issue. And then thought that he was a role cop. | ||
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This is the FirmTofu Claim: See Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long? On July 28 2013 04:04 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I gave myself a 12:00 deadline to post this. I've only delayed it this long because I wanted to see where the votes go before my reveal. I was also hoping for the off chance that people would lynch Cora without me having to reveal. I am the Detective! I have the exact same role pm as getmoript. Night 1, I checked TAA. Result: Town Night 2, I checked Cora. Result: Town This should answer a few questions for you. Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long? Because I got a town check on him. If you have any additional questions, please ask. I'm either a naive cop or a defective cop that gets everything wrong. I'm leaning toward defective. I want to lynch Cora. 3 cops in this town? Highly unlikely. Now look look at FirmTofu's role PM. Welcome, getmoript to A Bluelightz Mafia, where you hopefully will save Blueville from destruction at the hands of the Redvillians. You, as a Detective, have special equipment to discover the dubious loyalty of other citizens. Beware, your equipment may be defective and give you fake results! FirmTofu basically sees that he has a possibility of being insane. The Why did I defend TAA with "weirdness" for so long? still makes no sense. He'd have to question his own sanity first and since he got a DT check, he'd be really interested in figuring out TAA alignment first. That is not what happened. FirmTofu basically explored everybody else before finally getting to TAA. I'm having a real problem with this claim even on its own now. | ||
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On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote: Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop? Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles? How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity? I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him. Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist. My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA. TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction. I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts. Unless he was misrepresenting himself, he should know the answer to the bolded question, already. | ||
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This one too. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356¤tpage=108#2151 I'm filter diving FirmTofu around the claim now. It's hard to imagine a DT with unknown sanity playing and DT check on TAA returning town play like Tofu in that stretch. He waits until the very end to even look at TAA. | ||
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From the conversation flow, I'm just not getting a DT with DT check on TAA feel from Tofu. Either cDg or TAA should have been high priorities for discussion. He still tunnels jrkirky and I and then floats getmoript being VT. Actually doesn't talk all that much about cDg at all. @Tofu What were you trying to do when tunneling kirby and I? | ||
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So you misrepresent again here? On July 24 2013 08:13 FirmTofu wrote: I will address this post directly because everyone seems to think I am scum for not addressing it. This post does not reflect well upon TAA, I totally agree. However, I don't think it makes him 100% scum either. He could be newb town that doesn't feel like defending himself in a situation where it's his word against getmoript's. I've been placed in a sort of similar situation in Sicilian and I know how it feels. Ace fakeclaimed and called me mafia, which was a lie. I didn't even feel like defending myself because there was really nothing I could say. It was my word against his. Anyway, like I said, I'm not against lynching TAA. He's still a null-scum read to me, especially after this post. I will look into his filter, give me a few minutes. | ||
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On July 28 2013 13:13 FirmTofu wrote: TG, if you had changed your read on me after I claimed, I would have actually considered you being town. You sealed your fate when you started tunnelling me after I claimed. JJD had a town response to my claim. You and cDg had a scum response. That's how I know you two are scum. That's why cDg ragequit. He knows its over as long as town stays active. I'm challenging every bit of your story.... there are so many holes right now. cDg gets baited by Oatsmaster. He rages. | ||
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