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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#305
I don't like FT, but TAA looks like a better lynch to me.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#306
^Refering to Tofu not Fivetouch.
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 21:53 GMT
#310
Because anyone could've made those lists from any alignment. There's no real thought put into reading who's where and why. Some of those I have leans on in different directions but you can't even seem to find a favor as to which you want to lynch other than Oats for weird random reasons which don't differentiate him from the other lurkers.
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#311
On July 22 2013 06:51 FiveTouch wrote:
Yeah my vote was outdated.

getmoript, you think TAA's cases were malicious rather than wrong townie then?

~marv

I don't read him as wrong townie. Feels like he's trying to post just to post and not actually try to force or move discussion which is something I see very rarely out of town. Why do you think he's misguided townie?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#313
@Marv. What do you think of Rayn?
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 21:57 GMT
#316
On July 22 2013 06:56 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 06:53 getmoript wrote:
Because anyone could've made those lists from any alignment. There's no real thought put into reading who's where and why. Some of those I have leans on in different directions but you can't even seem to find a favor as to which you want to lynch other than Oats for weird random reasons which don't differentiate him from the other lurkers.

Of course anyone could have made those lists from any alignment! That's not the point at all.

People asked for who I'd like to lynch and this is my answer. I have already justified why, so now it is your job to convince me otherwise.

I picked Oats pretty much randomly. I could have easily picked any of the other lurkers. Do you want to lynch any of the other people on the list? If so, who and why? Convince me.

Why should all of the impetus to be on me to convince you to join my lynch? Isn't the impetus equally on you to convince me? You've given BS reasons to lynch Oats and while I'd love to lynch Oats for the lulz, I'd rather lynch TAA for being scummy.
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 22:14 GMT
#326
@Marv. His responses read to me like the more he gets pressured the less thought he tries to put into his responses. That reads like scum hasn't fully thought through their line of reasoning. Plus, he keeps on having these "Well you want to know what I think" type of posts which feel really non-towny; very "See what I'm contributing"-esque. For someone like me that'd be the norm, but he doesn't come across as that type of person and between Wave and Me, he's the lurkier player I'd like to kill.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:19 GMT
#332
On July 22 2013 08:14 austinmcc wrote: If that IS the case, then getmoript is posting too much/too freely to be the D1 lynch, and if he ever drops the bad cop, worse cop, even worse and angry cop act then that would be nice.

lol <3
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:19 GMT
#333
@Austin... Why Oats over TitsAndAss?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:25 GMT
#335
Have you looked that the points I've brought up about him?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:42 GMT
#340
The "that'd be the norm for someone like me" point refers far more to the stream of consciousness type posting. Like I post mostly on gut as town and move from there where I can keep on going. Not the "well do you want to know what I think" type of posts; I don't think I've ever really seen that as town and I honestly can't imagine doing it as town. I've seen something like, "well you want to know what I think. Here's what I think" type of post all connected not this strung out sort of play.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:49 GMT
#343
On July 22 2013 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The thing is Firm is very aggressive and straight forward as town. Here he is nothing like that at all. He is trying to fake that by calling out "scummy behaviour" without actually doing so (it didn't make people scum). When people start to question him he goes on to lurkers, to switch the attention onto something else ("look, there are 7 people who have not posted shit") instead of giving out reads on active players or trying to question scummy ones of them.

Also marv, why the fuck are you basing your opinion on what others think about TAA/Firm? Why not think by yourself?

Here's my problem with this analysis: Everything you bring up is meta-based. I could actually see Tofu being town right now. I'm null-town on him and think he's having a bad game (gut read, subject to change). I could easily see him just being busy/frustrated with Sicilian otherwise. Meta at most should make up a third of a case and nothing you've really brought so far is confirmed alignment indicative imo.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:50 GMT
#344
If it's unsigned it's just best to assume it's me (geript).
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 21 2013 23:58 GMT
#346
On July 22 2013 08:51 austinmcc wrote:
okeedoke. I really do not want to lynch TAA with that one post and then his response just now.

Who do you want to lynch then?
I don't want to lynch FirmTofu. I could go for a lurker right about now but it seems half the game might be modkilled for not voting. Mods, if you're reading this (and if you read come of what I wrote in the Nuclear postgame) I'm going to use this game as an example and start pushing for stronger activity rules in games/harsher bans.

-Wave
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#348
On July 22 2013 08:46 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 08:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
fivetouch made a post calling out the lurkers,
On July 21 2013 15:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Okay I've read the thread and I want to lynch a lurker. Throw a dart between DocH, Zephirdd, Oatsmaster and TAA. None have even tried to fake caring about the game, so I'm not even going to fake caring about their lives. Who's it gonna be guys?

I prefer Zeph, as he's actually posted yet has said literally nothing...but like I said, I would support any of the other lynches I mentioned without hesitation.

-VE

evidently he named almost every lurker(up to that point) except TanGeng.
TG strikes me as smart and competent with the few posts he made but he hasnt contributed yet so im kinda interested in him and then FT made that post which intentionally left TG out of the spotlight so i thought it was worth pointing out.
It IS worth pointing out. Honestly it's the single post in your filter that stuck out the most to me, and I think it's townie.

getmoript, either/both halves, chat about that post (by yourselves, in this thread, whatever). TAA's post is 8 hours after 5T's post. After that 5T post, TAA has:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 23:06 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On July 21 2013 11:24 getmoript wrote:
If there's a goddamn vigilante in this game and you shoot at all in this game I swear I will rage so fucking hard against you in the post game it's not even going to be goddamn funny. Closed setup. Nothing fucking known. Don't fucking kill town. I don't want another fucking repeat of Nuclear. I fucking hate playing as town because I always fucking lose. Goddamn this shit.

this post is so weird, fake outrage from nowhere, no real message "plz only shoot the mafia", if i could i would lynch only geript but for now ##vote: getmoript would do.
Im fairly sure either FiveTouch or getmoript is scum but since they attacked each other a bunch its probably not both, and since FT has been doing the attacking and getmoript has been backpaddeling as soon as he gets any heat im leaning towards him.
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On July 21 2013 23:11 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
also a strange thing about FT is the calling out the lurker post. He left TanGeng out of his list of "ill hop aboard these bandwagons any day" call for no apparent reason. Im really interested in TanGengs collor if FT turns red and vice versa.
I read that as TAA actually looking through 5T and getmoript's filters, a "figuring the game out" thing. Do you read this as "trying to be all sneaky and make an extra bro scummy"?

I really disagree with this. Filter diving isn't necessarily a "towny" thing to do. Scum filter dive too. More importantly I want to bring up how He's 'filter' diving. Here is where the FiveTouch post comes then the post on me. If he were going systematically down through the player filter list, the primary thing he'd comment on is how dead/lurky people are + Show Spoiler [Player List in Order] +
1) Zephirdd
2) jrkirby
3) FiveTouch
4) raynpelikoneet
5) FirmTofu
6) TanGeng
7) JarJarDinks
8) DoctorHelvetica
9) austinmcc
10) Oatsmaster
11) TheAwesomeAll
12) getmoript
. If he were going chronologically through the thread, then he would've commented on my Vigilante rage stuff here first and not on VE's lurker comment here. Rather he's popping in, making random comment, getting called on his shit and popping back out. Just looks exactly like a fluff indicator.

Anywho going to work now, WoS please take over.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 00:07 GMT
#349
WTF Austin? TAA admits that TanG looks all logic'd up and stuff and doesn't think that VE/Marv can have a read on him from a few posts? Just because someone's a lurker doesn't mean that you're automatically interested in lynching them. You can get reads from lurkers. I've correctly nailed someone as town based on 3 almost single line posts before.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 00:30 GMT
#354
On July 22 2013 09:27 austinmcc wrote:
Went ahead and voted Oats. There's merit on both sides of the TAA thing, but I like that post and his response to me as townie posts. The only caveat is that if 5T is town and marv disagrees with my thought process entirely and thinks I'm dumb and TAA is mafia, then it ups that chance TAA is mafia by more than I'd like.

Uh. Marv's with me on this on bro.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 00:32 GMT
#356
On July 22 2013 09:14 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 09:07 getmoript wrote:
WTF Austin? TAA admits that TanG looks all logic'd up and stuff and doesn't think that VE/Marv can have a read on him from a few posts? Just because someone's a lurker doesn't mean that you're automatically interested in lynching them. You can get reads from lurkers. I've correctly nailed someone as town based on 3 almost single line posts before.
Wish you were just bad cop + cop that makes sound effects. Calm down. I FULLY agree that you can get reads from lurkers.

You're interpreting something differently than I am. As I read it, TAA was wondering why 5T didn't mention TanGeng with the other lurkers, when VE said he wanted to lynch a lurker and made a tiny list. Not attacking 5T for having a read on a lurker, but just noting "This dude made a list of lurkers, but he left this one lurker off, and I think that's interesting."

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 09:04 getmoript wrote:
On July 22 2013 08:46 austinmcc wrote:
On July 22 2013 08:40 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
fivetouch made a post calling out the lurkers,
On July 21 2013 15:19 FiveTouch wrote:
Okay I've read the thread and I want to lynch a lurker. Throw a dart between DocH, Zephirdd, Oatsmaster and TAA. None have even tried to fake caring about the game, so I'm not even going to fake caring about their lives. Who's it gonna be guys?

I prefer Zeph, as he's actually posted yet has said literally nothing...but like I said, I would support any of the other lynches I mentioned without hesitation.

-VE

evidently he named almost every lurker(up to that point) except TanGeng.
TG strikes me as smart and competent with the few posts he made but he hasnt contributed yet so im kinda interested in him and then FT made that post which intentionally left TG out of the spotlight so i thought it was worth pointing out.
It IS worth pointing out. Honestly it's the single post in your filter that stuck out the most to me, and I think it's townie.

getmoript, either/both halves, chat about that post (by yourselves, in this thread, whatever). TAA's post is 8 hours after 5T's post. After that 5T post, TAA has:
On July 21 2013 23:06 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On July 21 2013 11:24 getmoript wrote:
If there's a goddamn vigilante in this game and you shoot at all in this game I swear I will rage so fucking hard against you in the post game it's not even going to be goddamn funny. Closed setup. Nothing fucking known. Don't fucking kill town. I don't want another fucking repeat of Nuclear. I fucking hate playing as town because I always fucking lose. Goddamn this shit.

this post is so weird, fake outrage from nowhere, no real message "plz only shoot the mafia", if i could i would lynch only geript but for now ##vote: getmoript would do.
Im fairly sure either FiveTouch or getmoript is scum but since they attacked each other a bunch its probably not both, and since FT has been doing the attacking and getmoript has been backpaddeling as soon as he gets any heat im leaning towards him.
On July 21 2013 23:11 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
also a strange thing about FT is the calling out the lurker post. He left TanGeng out of his list of "ill hop aboard these bandwagons any day" call for no apparent reason. Im really interested in TanGengs collor if FT turns red and vice versa.
I read that as TAA actually looking through 5T and getmoript's filters, a "figuring the game out" thing. Do you read this as "trying to be all sneaky and make an extra bro scummy"?

I really disagree with this. Filter diving isn't necessarily a "towny" thing to do. Scum filter dive too. More importantly I want to bring up how He's 'filter' diving. Here is where the FiveTouch post comes then the post on me. If he were going systematically down through the player filter list, the primary thing he'd comment on is how dead/lurky people are + Show Spoiler [Player List in Order] +
1) Zephirdd
2) jrkirby
3) FiveTouch
4) raynpelikoneet
5) FirmTofu
6) TanGeng
7) JarJarDinks
8) DoctorHelvetica
9) austinmcc
10) Oatsmaster
11) TheAwesomeAll
12) getmoript
. If he were going chronologically through the thread, then he would've commented on my Vigilante rage stuff here first and not on VE's lurker comment here. Rather he's popping in, making random comment, getting called on his shit and popping back out. Just looks exactly like a fluff indicator.

Anywho going to work now, WoS please take over.
See, look at all this calm discussion. Scum filter dive, but...he didn't just accuse 5T with that post? It's not like he looked through for scummy stuff or townie stuff or whatever to reinforce this case. He found something INTERESTING and posted it, makes me think he was reading without planning to do anything specific. I dunno, it's somewhat fluff but not scummy fluff imo. It's actually reading this post and pointing out this interesting thing about this post, but not trying to spin it (at least for instant effect).

My point is that there isn't a methodical method to what he's approaching. Rather he's reading to some "current point of interest" posting on it and leaving. How is that towny?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 01:34 GMT
#364
On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
My apologies.

Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote.

Looks to me like he's posting as he's catching up with the thread.
I don't really understand why people do that, or at least do so without explicitly saying they're going to do so and vote and shit when it may be completely irrelevant by the time they've caught up.

So....4 or so hours to go. Half the thread hasn't voted, a bunch of people have barely posted.
5T, lurker lynch or do we stay on TAA?

Tangeng and Tofu, same question to you.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 01:35 GMT
#365
On July 22 2013 10:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch ryaryrayrayrayryan.

It sucks that whenever Im here, no one fucking talks.

Anyway rayn is scum. Game is ez.
cant be arsed with voting for now.

Really? 'Cause you got 4 hours till you're modkilled, bro. You going to be around?
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