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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 18:38 GMT
#1651
Don't shoot kirby tonight. Guy's town.
Marv and/or VE (I forget which of you were pushing this) I disagree with you about TG/Tofu. I don't necessarily think either are town and think either would be a good shot tonight. Take Oats off the list, fine.

Shot should be one of Cora/TG/Tofu. No one else. I like austin's idea where we shoot into where we're likely to get the most information.

-Wave
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:06 GMT
#1665
@TG just write an IID post regardless
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:14 GMT
#1667
@Marv/VE. I'm putting a case together.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:52 GMT
#1673
Why did /dunked become a thing?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 21:12 GMT
#1676
On July 25 2013 21:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:12 getmoript wrote:
Guess that means we might be dead tonight, eh other head?
I would think you'd have expected this regardless. Kill U , RB the vig makes sense. Doesn't matter now I guess. Maybe we have a medic.

I want to make an exceptionally important point here. There's literally 0 reason for me town to expect us dead REGARDLESS of the flip. If he flips green, then we're likely paranoid or insane. With another claimed cop, it's quite possible that they shoot him instead of us. Or they hope that Onegu doesn't shoot and they kill him instead. Or hell, maybe they just shoot Marv/VE because they're good and shit. There's 0 reason to expect us to be dead regardless from a town perspective because there are so many quality targets available (blue/vet/etc.).

However, the only reason for us to be dead regardless of the flip is if JJD 100% knew the exact flip already. As scum, if you're losing your RB and you have a claimed detective who's apparently sane, he's a HUGE detriment. He can mostly confirm some of the questionable townies.

This comment specifically says to me, "I've been thinking about who's dead." Town can have some expectations, but quite often they're just that.

On July 24 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##unvote
##vote TAA


Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2.

This is the first time JJD brings up TAA at all. I'd talked about TAA a good amount; Austin had (but austin didn't think he was scummy). Tofu had. 5T had. Now JJD had a scum read on me for a while, but if that's the case then he should be trying to show how I'm making 'scum cases.' But at no point is he actively pushing for me; he's not trying to break me down and actually show why I'm scum. At no point is he actually engaging people to talk about the read on me or trying to talk to any other active player to convince them OR confirm his read. He's also actively ignored posts from multiple people talking about my scum meta (which is shall we say drastically different).

Most importantly, his reads really haven't moved at all. His reads come off as static to me (which tends to be a scum tell) for me. He's not looking for confirmation bias at all. That's a really big indicator for me.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 21:17 GMT
#1678
@VE/Mar What do you think of my points (regardless of my meta on him)
~g
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 21:32 GMT
#1681
On July 26 2013 06:30 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 06:13 FiveTouch wrote:
I find it exceedingly scummy that you have no comment on the actual discussion that's occurring right now, choosing only to chime in on the bit of fluff that happened at the end Cora. Like, you're my #1 target tomorrow if you're not dead tonight. And it's not because I have unreasonable expectations of your ability to replace into games or whatever tripe you were on about earlier, it's because you're doing scummy shit and I think you're scum.


How many times are you going to threaten me and not follow through on it?

Look man. You've claimed a roll; you're a lynch not a shot. I'd prefer if you spent time making big posts on who you think is scum and why.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 21:39 GMT
#1687
On July 26 2013 06:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 06:37 FiveTouch wrote:
OH I FOLLOW THROUGH ON SHIT! RIGHT INTO YOUR FACE BRO!

Hi VE. You seem a bit mad.

But really, I'm not getting shot and you guys aren't going to lynch me. You guys won't follow through on it.

He's not mad. He didn't misspell anything.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 22:00 GMT
#1695
On July 26 2013 06:45 FiveTouch wrote:
[image loading]

Ok you've inspired me....there will be some sort of MS Paint role or activation in my future themed game.
Remember this for a spr scrt advantage!
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#1699
@Onegu. Please dear god shoot JJD tonight.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:19 GMT
#1718
On July 26 2013 10:59 Onegu wrote:
Im not going to make everyone happy with this shot, hopefully its scum I upset but I will be honest I wish I didnt claim and just take the shot stress free but that train has passed. I am not shooting cora, austin, getmoript, 5t, or firm at this point. And for me Jkirby and TG are my main focus at this point.

I'd rather you shoot oats or JJD instead of TG. Kirby, eh.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:33 GMT
#1721
No, Wave isn't all on board w/ JJD afaik. What's your current stance on oats and why?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:37 GMT
#1723
@Onegu. Actually I want you to listen to me for one very important second here. Don't shoot tonight. Here's why: So far as we know, we started 9-3. No lynch, NK, Scum Lynch, NK leaves us at 7-2. This gives us 2 mislynches before lylo. You'll have more information to act on tomorrow and it makes you a possible shot instead of me. I want to put off LYLO for as long as possible and if you miss a shot, LYLO becomes 4-2 instead of 3-2. Make sense?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:38 GMT
#1724
@Austin... you around?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:44 GMT
#1727
Here's my specific problem with Oats. He's spent like most of his focus in getting into a shitfest with me on N1. He literally spent WAY more energy in fighting with me than doing anything else this whole game. He likes doing this as scum because he does it as town. I can completely buy Oats as scum. More than TG, More than Kirby. He's literally not playing the game. For that in the least he needs to be lynched in 1-2 days.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:52 GMT
#1731
Look Jarad. I know you haven't been reading my filter. Here's why:
On July 22 2013 14:06 getmoript wrote:
Ja. JJD is town. But he just doesn't get it. That makes me giggle inside. Time to get konk

On July 22 2013 14:23 getmoript wrote:
Look JJD. You need to get your ass in here now. You're playing with the big boys so you better watch your step. Go vote tang.

Hell. I've said a few times that I have hella meta read on you and you had 0 clue. Like you easily should've known and that would tell you both that I'm town by how I've played and by who I am. On top of that, both my amount and type of activity should've been a huge hint.

On July 26 2013 06:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 06:12 getmoript wrote:
However, the only reason for us to be dead regardless of the flip is if JJD 100% knew the exact flip already.

I didn't mean regardless of whether he flips town or scum. I meant regardless of him being roleblocker or not.

First off, this makes no sense. If Scum still have a roleblocker (after a TAA scum lynch), then they can just block me and kill someone else. I know if I were them I'd take my chances with a town vig block me and kill a town Marv. I still don't know my sanity (could be anything except naive) so a d3 check against them isn't that bad especially if they have a GF and/or framer. By the exact flip, I literally mean a Scum RB flip. There's a million good lines of play available dependent on who that last couple scum are and what they have left (especially if they have a rb left). You're a better town player than this.

When you said "Guess that means we might be dead tonight" I just assumed that u meant: now that you know there's no scum roleblocker. It didn't occur to me that you meant: now that we know he's scum, because you already had a red check.

Why would us finding scum make an actual difference? Town hasn't been following my lead for the most part and has been arguing against my points. I've been bending to not push my reads as firmly as I could and allow myself to accept other's reads. Even if I'm confirmed town it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the right time to kill me. What I read is, "That guy's dead tonight. So whatevs."

I have no defense for the TAA thing. I honestly never thought TAA was scummy @ all untill after the redcheck.

And I said originally why I thought you were scummy. I asked a few times for you to explain why you had a town meta read on me which you didn't answer. But you're right, I never really pursued it much further. I didn't think I really had a chance of getting people to believe you were scum because nobody really seemed suspicious of you at all. So I focused on my other reads @ the time.

Except here's the thing, I know you. You can look at a filter and try and assess who's scum and why. I made some damn good points on TAA twice in my D1 filter. But all that got swept under the rug. You never even stopping to read my filter and assess when/how/where I'm making cases is a huge ding against you. You're better than that as town.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:56 GMT
#1733
On July 26 2013 11:40 austinmcc wrote:
Don't sleep on FiveTouch. Marv can play a perfectly townie looking scum game. So can VE. Two people can be quite active. I also wouldn't trust DT checks on him, and think he's a bad check target, given that some games allow you to assign GF role if there is one, and I'd expect a scum team to plop it in their hands. If 5T isn't dead in 2-3 nights, he needs lynching. People will balk at that, but it's true. Do not leave him for endgame.

I wanted to make some points on Marv/VE, but honestly I trust them. The only point that you should even consider lynching Marv/VE is if their preferred lynches for the next 2 days are both town, then they're possibly scum. But honestly I'm not seeing it. Marv/VE both supported my TAA push a few times when he easily could've diverted a few different ways. They're both good enough to do that. I consider them obv town, far moreso than austin. If anything, considering lynching them at LYLO but not before...

Speak of LYLO. Onegu. Let me repeat myself. DO NOT SHOOT. DON'T SHOOT TONIGHT. DON'T SHOOT TOMMORROW. DON'T SHOOT PERIOD.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 02:57 GMT
#1734
@austin. Do you agree with not shooting now, not shooting ever? If not why not?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 03:03 GMT
#1740
On July 26 2013 12:00 TanGeng wrote:
ugh

I think we can always do a no lynch to have the same effect as not taking a shot.

No. Accepting a No Lynch means that Scum get to control who gets shot; which means the towniest person in the thread who had 0 chance of being lynched gets gone.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 26 2013 03:04 GMT
#1741
On July 26 2013 12:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 11:52 getmoript wrote:
Look Jarad. I know you haven't been reading my filter. Here's why:
lulz

That all you got to say?
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