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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 16:51 GMT
#1568
##Vote: WaveofShadow

screw martyring, he can still explain later and i'll hear him out.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#1571
On July 04 2013 01:55 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I want to believe WoS because I still think Fuba is scum. I just don't understand fake claiming there. Why would scum be out to get him on d2 when all he has to do is talk his way out of a lynch today/defend fuba and mislynch into a n2 win by not blocking? What incentive does scum have to kill him here?


You realise you said you want to believe him and then listed off a bunch of reasons you shouldn't?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 17:11 GMT
#1577
On July 04 2013 02:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Right, but hitting the right one today is a huge boon for us. If we hit the scummer, survivor lives and still has a chance to play out his wincon where it is strictly better to play on the side of town (6-3-1 right now, 6-2-1 at night, 5-2-1 at day) where he has a chance to JK nightly and get town even closer.

I just don't think we should be taking this as lightly as we are.


Agreed. Two things about today:

1) we know we're not lynching town
2) we're 50/50 (at least) of hitting mafia. So we should spend all our energies making sure we hit the right one.

It's why it's *very* important WoS comes and explains his actions and why he lied about shit. We need to know.

If he's gonna afk and say fuck you, we need to kill him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 17:14 GMT
#1579
On July 04 2013 02:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Any chance they're both scum?


possible, yes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 19:53 GMT
#1585
marvellosity strode up and down the main chamber.

"No, you fools! I'm blates town!"

The crowd sneered, but marvellosity had become but a sideshow. The crowd looked expectantly towards the main doors, sipping their wine nervously. The entrances of
Arch-liar WaveofShadow and Dull-prose fuba were eagerly awaited.

Their fate? A visit to the lion chamber. Many had made that trip; none had returned. Bells struck in the distance, piercing the tension-filled silence - witching hour is upon us!

Come mortals, do battle with only your wits to guide you. The court of your peers looms large!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 20:33 GMT
#1590
gumshoe, just reading through now, but - if WoS was survivor he wouldn't know if he was roleblocked, unless he tried jailing rayn.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 20:39 GMT
#1591
I don't get why people think claiming survivor is a death wish. I claimed survivor day 2 when I was survivor in Parallel worlds and survived pretty easily until I achieved my wincon on day 6.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 20:39 GMT
#1592
*and* I had anti-town powers, unlike whoever our survivor is here
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 20:45 GMT
#1595
On July 04 2013 05:42 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:33 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe, just reading through now, but - if WoS was survivor he wouldn't know if he was roleblocked, unless he tried jailing rayn.


I dont know, but looking back his play is way more indicative of survivor than Fuba. Also maybe he did get roll blocked on Rayne, hes implying that he has had some kind of connection with scum. Getting blocked on Rayne might just be it. Aside from that he might have some power we dont know about thats put him jeopardy. Point is Fuba has claimed survivor but has effectively stated it means nothing. On the other side of the spectrum we have WOS who gives the impression that we know nothing and that our names are all Jon snow. WOS also doesn't tell us everything because it's not in his interest to, hes trying to win not just get through the day. Fuba comes clean (literally considering they're is nothing to reveal) because hes just trying to survive one day.

Also claiming survivor in this game is a death wish because town has no doctor. With no vig in the game and an easy role block on Lazer Landa is the biggest threat to scum. Hes trying to fool them, not us.


Although I think some of your details are spotty, I think you might actually be right.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 20:48 GMT
#1596
gumshoe, if fuba is mafia, and given roleblocks aren't notified, why do you think he claimed jailing no-one instead of someone? For example, he could claim to have jailed Jarjar?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 20:52 GMT
#1599
Why would we not believe him jailing Jarjar?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:06 GMT
#1601
apologies if i'm stream-of-consciousness-ing a bit.

The point is though that it wouldve been better for scum to claim survivor (especially WOS) rather than the very last blue because they are more likely to survive the day as survivor (hohohoho) and thats they're[sic] only objective, maintain 2 kp for just one last day.

This is interesting and has my cogs turning a bit. Because WoS did make some deal about their obviously being claims that were wrong when he made his claim. That's a bit of a show to put on and attention to draw to yourself as mafia.

So WoS and fuba were the last ones to claim. WoS 2nd to last (going by vivax's list).
If WoS is mafia, then he knows that the last claimer WILL claim survivor when he claims vigilante. If the last player is actually the survivor (fuba) then fuba would have to claim survivor. So the hope there is his claim goes somewhat unnoticed, although that flies in the face of what was a very bad claim in the first place (shooting me, timing)
If WoS is survivor, then I guess he knows the last claimer is likely to be mafia. He claims vigi and hopes to have the heat off him for the cycle, and that town will want to lynch the guy claiming survivor. This kinda makes sense. Would WoS claim survivor as survivor? He would have to know that town wouldn't like that.

ramble ramble ramble. no idea where i'm going actually.

On July 04 2013 05:56 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 05:52 marvellosity wrote:
Why would we not believe him jailing Jarjar?


Because why would you jail Jar Jar when you have the power to make an actual difference(sorry Jar Jar, Rayne and co were better choices)? It's also a choice that draws more attention to him because hes specifically picking Jar Jar. If he stays neutral then the choice is far simpler. But how does that bring him closer to winning? Look at WOS's play and you see someone trying to survive both factions, look at Fubas and you see someone trying to survive the lynch. He hasn't even mentioned that scum might target him tonight.


rayn was a terrible choice of protect, really, because he was so far off base with his theories. Although fuba was one of his scumsuspects, but only on the basis I was protecting him. herp de derp.

I would also say that if WoS is scum he's not done anything to push any agenda.



I'm not gonna have the solid block of time I want to really check over both their filters until tomorrow, but what you say about WoS' mentality actually sounds right to me. I think I'm in.

##Unvote
##Vote: fuba
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:07 GMT
#1602
this is a bit of a headfuck actually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:09 GMT
#1603
hey gumshoe. So WoS claimed vigilante who tried to shoot me, right?

That means he's going to be exposed as a liar sooner rather than later, given he's not actually going to be able to shoot anyone.

This means two things
a) he's going to be exposed as a liar
b) by claiming vigilante he's making himself a night-target.

No?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:14 GMT
#1606
I can't tell which way I'm being played >.<

>.>

kinda enjoying it in a perverted kinda way though :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:22 GMT
#1608
you don't say bbygrl xoxo
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:31 GMT
#1611
Assuming he cant know if hes was blocked by maifa. This is all encompassing play. Hes trying to give the impression he was blocked by actual survivor XD in order to try and convince mafia he has a guardian angel.

god right, I hadn't understood that's what you were getting at. That makes sense now, wasn't getting it before.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:33 GMT
#1612
gumshoe I've not seen thinking like this in ages, I hope to god you're both right and town because this has all been rather refreshing ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:43 GMT
#1617
WoS play was just selfish (and riddled with various errors), you're the one that thought it through.

We'll see. I wonder what fuba will have to say about all this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2013 21:50 GMT
#1619
On July 04 2013 06:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 06:43 marvellosity wrote:
WoS play was just selfish (and riddled with various errors), you're the one that thought it through.

We'll see. I wonder what fuba will have to say about all this.

See you'd think so, but I'm pretty sure my situation is nearly impossible from the start. You're missing some crucial info as to why I did what I did.
Again, explanations later and you can tell me where I went wrong if you want then.


This tallies with your attitude the whole game, which is a point in your favour too. I'll wait for your explanation later.
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