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dijf what the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk i'm drunk. ummmmm i don't hav reads. it's hard to read this drunk. I keep looking at peopls names and i'm like fukkk how do i even pronounce thatn? good night my lovly town peoples. also is there a list of all roles? how many stupid scum is there? | ||
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Dandel Ion + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Dandel Ion On July 07 2013 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, in an concentrated effort to prepare for sicilian mafia (for which I'm not actually signed up for, but you can never know), I'll stop posting for the dayphase, and only vote from now on. So he posts a bunch of filler, and then states that he won’t be beneficial at all to town. Fair enough, so point blank, he has posted a refusal to not help town. ghost_403 + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=ghost_403 Lurker, very few posts. Not beneficial Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + All his limited posts are pretty much filler, doing nothing beneficial to town. Stutters695 + Show Spoiler + Filler, not being beneficial Z-BosoN + Show Spoiler + Pretty boring, not beneficial as of yet Abenson + Show Spoiler + He claims to have unvoted for Johnny here: On July 08 2013 12:31 Abenson wrote: Anyways I've unvoted from Johnny since although he looks kinda suspicious, it might be just newbie town. I think we can pay attention to him but not lynch him right away. Gonna vote Chez. Interested to see what he flips and what motivated him to throw that nuke Yet, he never even voted, as can see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Abenson Beyond that confusing post, not beneficial Meapak_Ziphh + Show Spoiler + Unfortunately he is being nuked by someone who didn’t claim it. As Xatalos stated here: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 20:00 Xatalos wrote: Looks like I'm still alive. Although after re-reading the rules, it's not that surprising: So: 1) apparently every nuke will hit at the deadline, not before or after that time 2) there are different types of nukes I can say that I'm immune to one type of nuke, but clearly I'm still in danger of death, since I don't know which type of nuke Chezinu launched at me. Ultimately it will be resolved at the deadline. If someone wants to use an anti-nuke or something, feel free to do so, although I can't be certain if it's necessary or not. Chezinu, if you are town, I'd like to hear your reasoning for launching a nuke at me and the type of that nuke. This at least proves that nukes don't necessarily have to be claimed. Dunno if Chezinu's nuke required claiming, but there's at least a strong possibility that he claimed it without needing to. That makes him look more townish IMO - why claim if my town flip would just put him in a tough spot as scum? On the other hand, nobody claiming this nuke aimed at Meapak makes it likely a scum nuke... And Meapak town based on that. Is that an actual read? If so, why? There is no reason for a townie to randomly nuke someone so early on with very little reads. This makes me assume that he is town, and it is probably a scum nuke. Unfortunately we won’t be able to see him for much longer. Ace + Show Spoiler + The first person to actually be posting so far down this list (with the exception of Meapak who is unfortunately being nuked). To say that he is mafia or town is hard at the moment. After all, it’s still Day 1, and there is very little information to go off of. Although as everyone seems to be on the right page, people not talking are simply bad for town, and it’s good that he is saying something, town or mafia, as if he’s town we will be able to understand that through his future posts / voting / nuking (?) and if he is mafia, we will be able to see flaws in his logic and patterns through posts / voting / nuking (?) | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 14:59 CaucasianAsian wrote: i have to go eat. will continue later today Dandel Ion + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Dandel Ion On July 07 2013 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote: Also, in an concentrated effort to prepare for sicilian mafia (for which I'm not actually signed up for, but you can never know), I'll stop posting for the dayphase, and only vote from now on. So he posts a bunch of filler, and then states that he won’t be beneficial at all to town. Fair enough, so point blank, he has posted a refusal to not help town. ghost_403 + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=ghost_403 Lurker, very few posts. Not beneficial Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + All his limited posts are pretty much filler, doing nothing beneficial to town. Stutters695 + Show Spoiler + Filler, not being beneficial Z-BosoN + Show Spoiler + Pretty boring, not beneficial as of yet Abenson + Show Spoiler + He claims to have unvoted for Johnny here: On July 08 2013 12:31 Abenson wrote: Anyways I've unvoted from Johnny since although he looks kinda suspicious, it might be just newbie town. I think we can pay attention to him but not lynch him right away. Gonna vote Chez. Interested to see what he flips and what motivated him to throw that nuke Yet, he never even voted, as can see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&user=Abenson Beyond that confusing post, not beneficial Meapak_Ziphh + Show Spoiler + Unfortunately he is being nuked by someone who didn’t claim it. As Xatalos stated here: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 20:00 Xatalos wrote: Looks like I'm still alive. Although after re-reading the rules, it's not that surprising: So: 1) apparently every nuke will hit at the deadline, not before or after that time 2) there are different types of nukes I can say that I'm immune to one type of nuke, but clearly I'm still in danger of death, since I don't know which type of nuke Chezinu launched at me. Ultimately it will be resolved at the deadline. If someone wants to use an anti-nuke or something, feel free to do so, although I can't be certain if it's necessary or not. Chezinu, if you are town, I'd like to hear your reasoning for launching a nuke at me and the type of that nuke. This at least proves that nukes don't necessarily have to be claimed. Dunno if Chezinu's nuke required claiming, but there's at least a strong possibility that he claimed it without needing to. That makes him look more townish IMO - why claim if my town flip would just put him in a tough spot as scum? On the other hand, nobody claiming this nuke aimed at Meapak makes it likely a scum nuke... And Meapak town based on that. Is that an actual read? If so, why? There is no reason for a townie to randomly nuke someone so early on with very little reads. This makes me assume that he is town, and it is probably a scum nuke. Unfortunately we won’t be able to see him for much longer. Ace + Show Spoiler + The first person to actually be posting so far down this list (with the exception of Meapak who is unfortunately being nuked). To say that he is mafia or town is hard at the moment. After all, it’s still Day 1, and there is very little information to go off of. Although as everyone seems to be on the right page, people not talking are simply bad for town, and it’s good that he is saying something, town or mafia, as if he’s town we will be able to understand that through his future posts / voting / nuking (?) and if he is mafia, we will be able to see flaws in his logic and patterns through posts / voting / nuking (?) Continuing MajuGarzett + Show Spoiler + Doesn’t post much, but from the few posts he has made, seems to be doing some actual analysis. Although he is inactive, he currently doesn’t seem as scummy or bad townie as other inactives. Should be looked at closely, and made sure that he continues to post again, but I’m not too worried about him yet Johnnywup + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote: I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. On July 08 2013 14:09 johnnywup wrote: Guys. I don't have much time left. I need to nuke someone to live. I'm getting a scummy read out of TanGeng. He's one I feel is most likely scum... So there you go. ##nuke TanGeng I will not be able to change this. Additionally, I am going to vote for Dandel Ion for now. Of the inactives, he seems most likely scum. I can change this in the morning if I feel like it, and I don't think a chez lynch is the best idea right now, and he seems to be gaining the most traction. I don't support that. So I'm voting for a new candidate which I think most people can agree on lynching on if it comes to it. He never posted before that he needs to nuke in order to survive. If that were the case, I am starting to understand why he is bad for the town. Not only is his basis to target TanGeng absolutely absurd, when there are many other inactives (I myself was very inactive) who fit into the same line. Also, I cannot assume that a town role forces you to nuke someone. If he is forced to nuke someone every day, and he is not lying, then that’s simply bad for town. It’s very risky. Also, he votes for WaveofShadow, and Dandel Ion http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420340&user=johnnywup His basis is that Dandel Ion is scummier than WaveOfShadow. Onegu + Show Spoiler + So right off the bat, before I even start to say anything. I want to note that MajuGarzett votes for him. As I stated earlier, I don’t feel as if MajuGarzett is very scummy yet. Overall, even though I’m not a big fan of Onegu, he hasn’t done anything way out of the ordinary that would quantify him as being mafia, or town yet. I feel very neutral on him. He continues to say that I’m a scummy lurker. I can understand why people would assume I’m a lurker. I’ll defend this once I get to me on the list. But honestly, he seems to be proactive. I don’t see any hardcore basis behind lynching him yet, unless I want to go about a pride thing. But he gives me a more townie feel to be honest. VayneAuthority + Show Spoiler + I have a similar feeling to VayneAuthority as I do to Onegu. Even though he has less filler posts, he seems to be doing decent analysis. Despite the whole thing of me being drunk and thus that’s a sign of mafia, he’s not looking to be pro-scum from my point of view thus far. He does seem to be lynch happy, but ok. There are people much higher up on my radar currently. strongandbig + Show Spoiler + Very inactive, and blames 2 people that they look scummy. He is really sitting in the corner, showing he is watching the thread (with his 2 random suspicion posts) and not being beneficial to town at all. gunshoe + Show Spoiler + Almost every single one of his posts are filled with fluff. Not being productive at all. Will continue later, need to study for class. | ||
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On July 09 2013 04:52 Alakaslam wrote: By the way CaucasianAsian is new? How awesome, will he join newbies? This helps me a bit, I just assumed he was a vet :p I have only played 2 previous games of mafia online, and quite a few live. It's played so differently online as opposed to live (can't say things like: you had to think about that! You're mafia!). Honestly, I don't really know how to approach all of this. | ||
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Also, I'm a little scared about making some judgements. I don't want to say someone feels scummy to me, as if I am right, mafia might target me, and if they are town and others believe them to be town, then town might say it sounds scummy right? But I do want to contribute, but I guess i'm a bit nervous about doing so! | ||
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1. Dandel Ion 2. Ghost_403 3. Oatsmaster 4. Stutters695 5. Z-BosoN 6. Abenson 7. Meapak_Ziphh 8. Ace 9. MajuGarzett 10. Johnnywup 11. Onegu 12. Geript 13. VayneAuthority 14. Strongandbig 15. Gumshoe 16. OriginalName - lynched Day 1 17. TanGeng - Nuked Day 1 18. Xatalos 19. CaucasianAsian 20. Alakasam 21. WaveofShadow 22. jampidampi 23. raynpelikoneet 24. Nirvana.Gabo - Redirected Nuke Day 1 25. FirmTofu 26. Chezinu 27. austinmcc | ||
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So, Ryan nukes Meapak (doesn't claim), WaveofShadow redirects it, Ryan claims after redirected. Why? Sorry, I'm still trying to catchup. | ||
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Overall, isn't it a stupid idea just role calling? Doesn't it put himself out as a target? Is Ryan really as dumb as to tell everyone he can launch secret nukes (unless it was his only one?)? The fact that he tells everyone he can launch secret nukes, is role calling saying he is dangerous. Is that really good for town? Either way, he is stupid for telling everyone he can launch secret nukes. Is he not? What is he trying to accomplish? I have 2 scenarios: 1) Town nuker: - Really blew up over Meapak pointing a finger at him, and wanted revenge by nuking Meapak. I don't know how they play mafia, but it assumes that they have some history. 2) Scum nuker: - Meapak starts out very early accusing ryan of being mafia. Afraid of this, he nukes meapak. There may be more to the story, and possibly a history. He may be afraid of Meapak for being a good player, and wants to get rid of him ASAP. But if this is the case, why would he claim it? I'm assuming ryan is a decent player, but I can't imagine a scum player quickly claiming a nuke. It does exactly what everyone is doing now, it instantly makes you suspicious. Not claiming it at first, and then claiming it later... Why would scum do this? It's super suspicious, and they know it. Every scenario I can think of, it boils down to A) Ryan is a stupid townie who is angry at Meapak. or B) Ryan is a stupid scum scared of Meapak. | ||
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let me explain: Ryan claims nuke, thus claiming he is dangerous. This instantly makes him suspicious. But then as people realize that it's so obvious that he is suspicious that there is no way he can be mafia because why would mafia ostracize himself? Is it possible he is on a whole other level? I'm probably over thinking things... fuck. Did WaveofShadow explain why he redirected from Meapak? | ||
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On July 09 2013 18:38 Xatalos wrote: Any scumreads yet, CA? I still have a scummy read on Johnny, and I'll explain below. if I'm wrong, or not on the right path, please correct me. I'm going to write this out, and then grab dinner with a friend. I won't be able to reply for a few more hours. On July 08 2013 00:26 johnnywup wrote: I know I'm not very good at mafia. But what you need to understand is that NOTHING that I've done says scum over bad townie. I am a bad townie. I can see why I'm probably a good lynch for day 1. I can see why I'm being bandwagonned. It's because it's so easy for scum to tunnel bad townies. If you can find something that I've done that screams scum over bad townie, go for my lynch (hint: there is none). I may be the best lynch even lacking that. But when I flip town (assuming I'm lynched), know that it was as much your fault as scum, townies, for following this bandwagon. Oh yeah, and WoS is the one who is trying to push it in a major way, more than anyone else. So Johnny went through a lot of scrutiny at first, and posts this. He pretty much says "please don't lynch me, i'm town, i'm just bad." I don't know much about how forum-based mafia works, but in live mafia this is very commonly scum. It's usually a last hope without role calling. "I know I'm bad, and I'm no use to anyone, but please let me live" It's simply not beneficial in any circumstance to state that you are bad at the game when you are trying to avoid a lynch. On July 08 2013 14:09 johnnywup wrote: Guys. I don't have much time left. I need to nuke someone to live. I'm getting a scummy read out of TanGeng. He's one I feel is most likely scum... So there you go. ##nuke TanGeng I will not be able to change this. Additionally, I am going to vote for Dandel Ion for now. Of the inactives, he seems most likely scum. I can change this in the morning if I feel like it, and I don't think a chez lynch is the best idea right now, and he seems to be gaining the most traction. I don't support that. So I'm voting for a new candidate which I think most people can agree on lynching on if it comes to it. I find that many people are just saying "i think he's scummy." in this game. To be honest, it really annoys me as they are not giving any basis behind it. It's the whole conspiracy theorist bullshit that you see on forums all the time. "If you don't believe it, just do the research yourself". It's annoying, makes other people do pointless work, and overall not beneficial to town. On July 08 2013 14:17 johnnywup wrote: I'm not going to go over every reason, but he follows the bandwagon a TON and his analysis isn't really insightful or unique at all. He criticizes over weak points and flip flops. Just look at his posts...I can't see a townie typing what he's typing/voting at ALL. None of it makes sense as a townie for me. I can only see scum typing what is written, if that makes sense? There's specifics for each individual post but that sort of is a general overview. If you want I could go over every single post but since you also think he's scum I don't think it's necessary So he actually does respond, and is being quite hypocritical in his basis. His posts have not been beneficial as once again, he refuses to give any real reason. Once again, "i could really explain to you, but i don't want to, and I shouldn't have to. you can either believe me or do your own research" It's a simple way to make someone who doesn't want to do a lot of work, believe you, by believing so hardcore in what you are saying, without actually saying anything. It's pretty much fluff in this post "i won't give any real reasoning, but you should trust me. his posts make no sense" this is just nonsense. | ||
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On July 09 2013 19:39 jampidampi wrote: I don't think rayn lauched the nuke. If he had a nuke, why wouldn't it have been launched here? Unless the nuke could be launched only by a PM to the hosts, rays nuke should have been launched at Xata early D1. Rayn calling for others to be nuked. If he had a nuke why wouldn't he nuke them himself? Here he's asking opinions on Meapak 10 min before mods confirmed the launch. If he's trying to get permission to fire the nuke or confirmation for his scumread wouldn't he wait until after the responses to fire the nuke? If he had already set his mind on nuking Meapak, why ask others for their opinion on Meapak? Rays first post after the launch. If there is no downside for claiming a silent nuke why wouldn't you claim it right then? The bolded is especially odd. If you launched the nuke, why would it pop in to your mind that scum are trying to frame you by nuking your scumread who is actually town? Is it possible that there is a required role where you must claim unclaimed nukes? If not, then maybe he just wanted to stir up some action. In either case, I am really interested in why WoS has a town read on Maepak. | ||
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