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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#2562
On July 12 2013 11:42 johnnywup wrote:
xatalos is on that list

Oh poop, I can't read. Ignore that last question, Alakaslam.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 05:00 GMT
#2577
I am satisfied with Alakaslam's prose.

Moving on to Onegu...

Um...where is he?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 07:19 GMT
#2582
On July 12 2013 15:07 Xatalos wrote:
Hihi everyone.

I'm starting to feel that I die tonight, with everyone chanting my über-townishness. The only reason I see for my survival is that my power is relatively useless. But if there are 2 NK's again, the situation looks grim for me.

Currently I'm mostly angry at myself for already pushing two mislynches (worse still, one away from a confirmed scum and one away from a likely scum). I never believed I'd say this, but maybe people should listen to Ace more. He's been likely correct about two lynches already and I doubt he'd be bussing this ruthlessly as scum. Also, his posts after being nuked were pretty townish.

With that said, I have reached a new conclusion on who the remaining 4 scum probably are (if it's a normal setup and around 20% of the players are scum). I also have an idea on who might be the 3rd party (likely an SK-type role but with nukes instead of NK's). And I'm pretty confident in my townreads at the moment. I'm considering if I should
A) save everything for right before the nightpost to make scum's targeting harder
B) post before that to encourage more discussion and help polish my reads / answer questions (since I'm likely dead now anyways)

I can't really post for a bit (just typing on my phone hastily atm), but I think I could finish my "last will" several hours before the deadline. Opinions?

I am in the same position as you Xatalos(except I backed off the ON lynch at the last second).

I don't know why everyone thinks you and me are town, honestly. I think you are town because you mirror my behavior and you probably think the same of me for the same reason. There is little reason why any rational observer should think the same.

As for the decision you need to make...
I want you to save your scumreads for the time right before the nightpost, HOWEVER, I don't think we should stop discussing reads altogether. That would only serve to help scum.

Therefore, I have a few questions for you.

1) We currently have Alakaslam claiming Russian Technician. We have lost a town sided North-Korean Technician and we have killed a scum sided North-Korean Technician. Do you doubt the veracity of Alakaslam's claim at all based on this new information?

2) We have Onegu/SnB/You all claiming The Immune One. You are in a very unique position to handle this issue because you are 100% certain about your own alignment. Therefore, your opinion on the matter is on critical importance. You have already stated that you think SnB is the most likely to be scum in the group claim. However, Onegu has voted on both mislynches and SnB voted to lynch Dandel who flipped scum. Are you willing to hold your stance based on this contradictory information?

3) Who would be your best vigi target if you had a nuke?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:41 GMT
#2629
Hey guys I'm back. If I am correct in my understanding, Xatalos has a nuke but cannot use it because he has passed he deadline? Can you please confirm, Xatalos?

If so, this is easily resolved. Medics on Xatalos, now. We need Xatalos alive because he is a 1) An almost confirmed town
2) Can vigi kill someone.

I'm not entirely convinced Stutters would be the best target just because he also bussed Dandel. I'd like to discuss the nuke target first.

Ace apparently launched a nuke at Maju, but nothing actually happened...
Was Ace lying as I initially thought? Remember, we still haven't heard from the person who supposedly gave him a maju during Day 2. He also has not confirmed my story yet.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:43 GMT
#2632
Oh wow stutters gave the nuke to Ace? Stutters, what is your role exactly?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:51 GMT
#2638
@xatalos

What do you think of the theory that Dandel told most of his scum team to bus him day 1 because he didn't feel like playing? I'm starting to think this is exactly what happened. It is evidence by the fact that Dandel nor XigXag ever put up a decent fight defending themselves. There were plenty of lukers, isn't it odd that the one lurker who is mafia gets picked on first? Couldn't mafia relatively easily redirect the wagon to another lurker before it picked up steam?

I'm thinkin that the reason mafia never redirected the wagon was because they wanted Dandel dead to establish themselves as part of a wagon that flipped scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:57 GMT
#2640
Until stutters explains exactly what his role is, he's still a good nuke target. If he flips scum, we get ace.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 19:00 GMT
#2642
On July 13 2013 03:56 strongandbig wrote:
mafia did redirect the wagon

to originalname

No, town did that because the Dandel wagon had too many inconsistencies. I still think that anyone who switched from Dandel to ON comes off the worst from this. There was very little reason to do that unless you were apathetic about the lynch.

If my theory is correct, a good many people on the Dandel wagon are scum and a few people that hammered ON are possible scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 19:02 GMT
#2643
On July 13 2013 03:59 Stutters695 wrote:
I make nukes that may or may not be duds. It's rngd or some shit.

I don't understand the abbreviation. Can you post your role pm? When do you make nukes? When can you deliver them to others?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 20:53 GMT
#2661
This is hilarious. Ace, what nuke type did you receive? Stutters, what nuke type did you send? Why has neither player bothered to inform us of either of these beforehand?

I'm with Austin on this. Stutters has previous knowledge that he is not telling us. It looks like he deliberately fabricated parts of his role pm.

We have a detective case on your hands, my friends.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 21:35 GMT
#2673
Xata, can't u post it now? Don't night actions have to be submitted 1 hour before the deadline?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 21:44 GMT
#2676
On July 13 2013 06:42 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 06:35 FirmTofu wrote:
Xata, can't u post it now? Don't night actions have to be submitted 1 hour before the deadline?


Really? Can someone confirm this?

I'm not sure so don't do it unless you pm a mod about it. I'm on phone atm so I can't do it.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 22:12 GMT
#2690
GGs all, I didn't think I would die...
Have a look through my filter, I have a few hidden gems
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#3262
:Lurking:
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 17 2013 22:08 GMT
#3845
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 20 2013 23:36 GMT
#3994
GG guys. This game got me modkilled in Sicilian.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 20 2013 23:39 GMT
#3995
/worship Lord Chezinu of the Chezinu Banking System.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 20 2013 23:49 GMT
#4001
I have a question for Oats. When Maju was trying to decide who to nuke, why did you insist on jampidampi instead of Vayne?

First of all, it wouldn't matter to you, right? They are both town and you know that.
Secondly, Maju was on your scumteam, so I thought you wouldn't push that hard for a target when you could just suggest a target for her in the scum QT.

It was a really good play, but I'd like to know what prompted you to do it.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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